Not good...

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Drudge:

WASH TIMES: U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico over summer... Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona, Gertz to report in Page One Splash, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE...
 

jlabsher

Sorry about that chief.
Lets see, we haven't had powerboats, limousines, trucks, trains, buses, ferries, duct tape, dirty bombs, powerplants, yaddah, yaddah...... to worry about for awhile, time to throw some more wild speculation out to stir up some fear. Works good in the polls.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
jlabsher said:
Lets see, we haven't had powerboats, limousines, trucks, trains, buses, ferries, duct tape, dirty bombs, powerplants, yaddah, yaddah...... to worry about for awhile, time to throw some more wild speculation out to stir up some fear. Works good in the polls.
Yes, let's call it scare-mongering. Just like this:
Terror-Fearing Sen. Shuts Office
Sen. Mark Dayton said Tuesday he is closing his Washington office because of a classified intelligence report that made him fear for the safety of his staff. Dayton, D-Minn., said the office will be closed while Congress is in recess through Election Day, with his staff working out of his Minnesota office and in Senate space off Capitol Hill.
Oh, but he's a Democrat and, therefore, must be telling the truth...
CBS News Correspondent Bob Orr reports that federal officials said they knew of no new, specific intelligence information that would have prompted Dayton to close his office. U.S. officials say they "know of no specific intelligence that al Qaeda is targeting Capitol Hill, Washington or any U.S. site, reports Orr. And there is no information that any attack is imminent.
 

jlabsher

Sorry about that chief.
And you know the two threats are related, I'm sure.

But several sources said other senators who attended briefings on the report did not come away with the same conclusion as Dayton did. U.S. intelligence officials have described the information as serious but vague, lacking specifics about the time or location of a possible attack.

Oh, look: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28037-2004Oct12.html

A Cornell sociologist says he has found scientific evidence that, whenever the government issues a terrorism alert, President Bush's approval ratings go up, even on domestic issues, such as his handling of the economy.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
jlabsher said:
Lets see, we haven't had powerboats, limousines, trucks, trains, buses, ferries, duct tape, dirty bombs, powerplants, yaddah, yaddah...... to worry about for awhile, time to throw some more wild speculation out to stir up some fear. Works good in the polls.

Admit it, there's no winning with you.

Terror threat level goes up, no terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush playing politics)
Terror threat level goes up, terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush sucks at keeping nation secure)
Terror threat level doesn't go up, no terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Because he sucks anyway)
Terror threat level doesn't go up, terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush sucks at keeping nation secure)

Do I have it right?
 

jlabsher

Sorry about that chief.
SamSpade said:
Admit it, there's no winning with you.

Terror threat level goes up, no terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush playing politics)
Terror threat level goes up, terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush sucks at keeping nation secure)
Terror threat level doesn't go up, no terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Because he sucks anyway)
Terror threat level doesn't go up, terrorist action seen : Bush bad (Bush sucks at keeping nation secure)

Do I have it right?

Maybe in your mind, but not at all, Bush's whole campaign and presidency is based on fear, (what real issues is he running on besides "I will keep America safe & Kerry won't?") or the whole personal attack issue "flip-flop", & other name calling?

I just think that the whole Wash Times story is bogus and it is amazing that it is only showing up on the Times and Moscow news

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...ews.com/news/2004/10/13/chechensarizona.shtml.

MUST be a true story, is it on New Republic yet?
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
jlabsher said:
Maybe in your mind, but not at all, Bush's whole campaign and presidency is based on fear, (what real issues is he running on besides "I will keep America safe & Kerry won't?") or the whole personal attack issue "flip-flop", & other name calling?

I just think that the whole Wash Times story is bogus and it is amazing that it is only showing up on the Times and Moscow news

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&n...ews.com/news/2004/10/13/chechensarizona.shtml.

MUST be a true story, is it on New Republic yet?
To be fair... according to the Constitution... that's really the *only* issue Bush should be running on...

and besides... I don't know about you, but I think the immediate dangers to our national security, freedom, and liberty, trumps issues like healthcare, medicare, social security, stem cell research, abortion, the economy, and other things that have been broken for the past several decades and in spite of which we've gotten along just fine.
 

PrchJrkr

Long Haired Country Boy
Ad Free Experience
Patron
jlabsher said:
Maybe in your mind, but not at all, Bush's whole campaign and presidency is based on fear, (what real issues is he running on besides "I will keep America safe & Kerry won't?") or the whole personal attack issue "flip-flop", & other name calling?

Is that REALLY all you get out of Bush's campaign? UFB. :shortbus:
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
jlabsher said:
Maybe in your mind, but not at all, Bush's whole campaign and presidency is based on fear,

In my mind, national security and terrorism are real issues and they trump all others. Nothing can wreck my day quite like being blown to smithereens. Actually, nothing can wreck the economy quite like having a lot of people blown to smithereens.

To me, it's a deal-breaker; if you suck at handling it, the nation can't afford you. I don't care how many jobs you create or how you'll improve the environment and health care, if your attitude is to reduce it to "nuisance" level.

To call it fear is Democratic bloviating; it is real. We ignored the threat for years at our peril. Given the choice between the two, I think it's no contest; Kerry will not act as decisively as Bush did, and will. (Kerry said it was a law-enforcement problem - you think he's serious?).
 

ylexot

Super Genius
jlabsher said:
I guess the terrorists are winning if everyone is scared, amazing.
Making protection from terrorism the highest priority does not make you scared. It is simply recognizing the problem. I'm not afraid of terrorists, but I still want the government to handle the problem.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
jlabsher said:
I guess the terrorists are winning if everyone is scared, amazing.

Who says I'm "afraid"?

I wasn't "afraid" of the Beltway Sniper, and my family lives in the neighborhood of most of his shootings. But catching him, to me, was more important than anything else the Montgomery County Police were doing at that time. I'd have personally kicked Chief Moose's azz if he'd told me that it was all just fear, and they were going to concentrate on catching speeders and drunk drivers.

Do you get me yet? It's an important issue, national security. I want someone in there who'll kick their butts and not kiss them.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
jlabsher said:
I guess the terrorists are winning if everyone is scared, amazing.
How does your head stay on when you spin things like this? Since when has taking a threat seriously meant that you are afraid? It seems the only responsible thing to do now that we know that we must be concerned for the safety and security of our citizens. We certainly know what would happen if a threat was ignored and something did happen - lynching.
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
jlabsher said:
I guess the terrorists are winning if everyone is scared, amazing.
Maybe we should just ignore all the terrorists, act totally unafraid, and screw all this spending we're doing on Homeland Security and Defense.

No... wait a minute... if we do that, then when we get attacked, you'll blame President Bush. :rolleyes:

Why don't you just admit that you're going to side with anyone who's anti-Bush?
 
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