Now that is some good shootin
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
There's a pic floating around of two rifle rounds, one stuck in the other at about a 90 degree angle, hit the other one in flight somewhere, sometime during Galipoli.
It happens. :shrug:
It happens. :shrug:
back in the 80's at various gun shows this gun had a display ....
.... there was an M1 Carbine on display .... AP round supposedly went through the barrel dead center and took out the GI running with the weapon straight up and down ....
Two lucky soldiers avoided those, but how long before others arrived? Gallipoli was an absolute bloodbath, with no chance of victory, perpetuated by the arrogance and stupidness of the British idiotic commands.
with the advent of Machine Guns, mass charges were just plain stupid ...... 10,'s of thousands killed in a single battle
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Actually, they were not stupid. The reality was that there was a state of war and the boss's knew about machine guns and rapid fire cannon with high quality, reliable ammunition and trenches. If you're a general, those are the realities you are ordered to fight. You can't go around them so, you tried to suppress them and then overwhelm a break through point and flank them. Given that leaders back home decided there will be war, that was the best they could do. At the Somme, they bombarded the line for a week, trying to find the right balance between suppression, limiting reinforcements and guess at the best moment to attack, absorb the losses and achieve the objective by a combination of suppression, movement and, yes, absorbing enough bullets to take a position and then flank.
The horror of it is just how much punishment men could take when they had no other choice, the bombing, the becoming subterranean beasts, all tended to overcome the best of plans. Point is that, given what it was, if 10,000 men shot meant 100,000 flooded though and flanked the enemy and won the war, it was deemed worth it and, if war it was, there really was no other choice. Lincoln called it the 'awful math' and Grant got it. If it is war, then that means killing.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
In Galipoli and other battlefields you will find one in a million shots like this, because at any given time there could be thousands of bullets in flight, and in a short period of time a million small arms round expended.. On a battlefield a "one in a million" shot isn't that rare..
A one round, one shot in a single one on one encounter.. THAT's RARE!
yeah they were ...
... because the bombardments did not knock out the machine guns
... when you lose 20,000 men along an entire front in one battle something is wrong [1st day Battle of The Somme]
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Yeah, something is wrong: having that war. So, if you want to say the leaders back home were stupid, we agree. As for the fighting, it could go no other way.
Many historians have said the only thing that broke the stranglehold of the machine gun was the appearance of mechanized armor (tanks).
Larry Gude
Strung Out
It was about to get really interesting in terms of armor and trenches and machine guns and then...the war paused for awhile.