Now we know: it was (and remains) an attempted coup

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Thursday evening, Alan Dershowitz, emeritus professor of law at Harvard Law School and a Democrat, appeared on Fox News’s Tucker Carlson Tonight and said about what McCabe revealed to 60 Minutes, “If true, it is clearly an attempt at a coup d’état.” The following night, during an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, Dershowitz went even farther in analyzing what McCabe said about Rod Rosenstein:

Let’s talk about Rod Rosenstein. He is the Deputy Attorney General of the United States. He was the acting attorney general for this case. And he is suggesting using the 25th Amendment that was written to take care of a problem of Woodrow Wilson having a stroke or President Reagan being shot and being on the operating table. These guys [McCabe, Rosenstein, at al] are watching House of Cards instead of reading the Constitution. The Constitution is as clear as can be. The 25th Amendment is applicable only if you’re incapacitated. It’s not a substitute for impeachment; it’s not a substitute for an election. And if Rod Rosenstein actually thought about and suggested wiring the president, [and] invoking the 25thAmendment he should be fired before he has an opportunity to resign. He should be disgraced. The Inspector General of the Justice Department should be looking into it.

This is as close as this country has ever come to the consideration of a coup d’état – a constitutionally unlawfaul coup d’état [emphasis added.] – against the duly elected president, whether you like him or not, whether you voted against him as I did or not. The Constitution has to prevail. The 25thAmendment has to mean what it says. And when you have a deputy attorney general thinking about circumventing the 25thAmendment, that is close to a Constitutional crisis.

 

transporter

Active Member
Some basic definitions for you chuckleheads and our resident Guficer 2.0 wannabe:

Definition of coup d'état
: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics especially
: the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group

Just so you morons can understand...the idea that using a Consitutional amendment to remove an inept, incompetent, unfit, or law breaking President is not, under any definition a coup d'etat.

Here is the relevant wording of the 25th Amendment :

Amendment XXV

Section 4.

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Now, comrade...chuckleheads...please locate the word "incapacitation" or any variation of the word. The key phrase in Section 4 uses the terminology "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office". (Sects 1-3 are not relevant here,nor do they contain the word incapacitated in any of its forms.)

Ok...so Mr. Dershowitz (who, btw, has tossed his credibility aside by his consistent arguing for every position the current President takes...he has become nothing more than a partisan hack.)...uses the term incapacity...so what does that mean??
Definition of incapacitated : deprived of capacity or natural power : made incapable of or unfit for normal functioning
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incapacitated

Donald Trump has been unfit for the normal functioning of the Office of the Presidency since the day he came down the escalator. Therefore, by the normal definition of "incapacitated", the 25th Amendment became applicable to Trump the moment he completed his oath of office.
 

Rommey

Active Member
Some basic definitions for you chuckleheads and our resident Guficer 2.0 wannabe:




Just so you morons can understand...the idea that using a Consitutional amendment to remove an inept, incompetent, unfit, or law breaking President is not, under any definition a coup d'etat.

Here is the relevant wording of the 25th Amendment :




Now, comrade...chuckleheads...please locate the word "incapacitation" or any variation of the word. The key phrase in Section 4 uses the terminology "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office". (Sects 1-3 are not relevant here,nor do they contain the word incapacitated in any of its forms.)

Ok...so Mr. Dershowitz (who, btw, has tossed his credibility aside by his consistent arguing for every position the current President takes...he has become nothing more than a partisan hack.)...uses the term incapacity...so what does that mean??


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incapacitated

Donald Trump has been unfit for the normal functioning of the Office of the Presidency since the day he came down the escalator. Therefore, by the normal definition of "incapacitated", the 25th Amendment became applicable to Trump the moment he completed his oath of office.
Split hairs much?

25th said:
...written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,...
Tell me, what is one of the synonyms for "unable"....would it be "incapable"? Now the definition of "incapacitate" is: "to make legally incapable or ineligible".

You want to pick and choose one of many definitions while ignoring what most people understand.

...uses the term incapacity...so what does that mean??
What?? you try to present yourself as an educated idiot, and you've already shown you know how to reference a dictionary, so why are you so inept at looking up this word as well?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
That’s not splitting hairs, it’s english. Words have meanings and there was no coup.


It’s funny watching fox spin you guys up over this bs. However, if there had been an attempted coup Trump would have appointed a SC and prosecuted the players.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Poor mo, always needs someone to do his thinking for him

Right because reading and understanding the words from ;

Alan Morton Dershowitz is an American lawyer and academic. He is a scholar of United States constitutional law and criminal law,


is having someone thinking for me, If I happen to agree with what was stated.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
7 Big Takeaways From Andrew McCabe’s Planned Coup

The story about Rosenstein proposing to wear a wire was reported by The New York Times in September of last year, although Rosenstein issued a non-descript (and not entirely convincing) denial. Here’s Pelley:

There were meetings at the Justice Department in which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment. These were the eight days from Comey’s firing to the point that Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel. And the highest levels of American law enforcement were trying to figure out what to do with the president.
And:

They were counting noses. They were not asking cabinet members whether they would vote for or against removing the president, but they were speculating, ‘This person would be with us, this person would not be,’ and they were counting noses in that effort. This was not perceived to be a joke.
According to anonymous FBI officials talking to The Times, McCabe and his associates even kept “contemporaneous memos” on their actions and meetings with Trump—again another effort to find the president guilty of some crime. According to one of these memos, Rosenstein and McCabe determined they needed to peel off eight of the 15 cabinet officials. And Rosenstein suggested that he might have supporters “in the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security.”


Yikes. Here we have a formerly powerful and unelected government official, for all the world to see, admitting that the FBI tried to launch a coup against the constitutionally elected president of the United States, in only the first few months of his tenure. But there’s more going on than that. Here are seven quick takeaways on McCabe’s revelation of his planned coup.


1. McCabe Proves Trump Firing Comey Was Justified

2. McCabe and His Co-conspirators Only Ever Had The Dossier to Go On

3. Much Of This Seems Like A Cover-up

4. The Conspirators Might Be Turning On Each Other

5. McCabe Might Be Telling The Truth About Rosenstein

6. The Whole Russia Probe Is Tainted And Corrupt

7. Comey, McCabe, Clapper, And Brennan Are Unpatriotic Dopes
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Your sexual attraction for Gilligan is is a little strange for a public forum........

I think he is more of a Tranny dude....just sayin’
I don’t know how you get anything sexual from my post, but good to see that his friends know gilligan likes trannys :yay:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
Staff member
PREMO Member
It's kind of frightening to see MR and Trans defending the FBI abusing their power in order to overthrow our government and unseat our elected President.

Don't you remember when liberals were liberal instead of Marxist?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
7 Big Takeaways From Andrew McCabe’s Planned Coup

The story about Rosenstein proposing to wear a wire was reported by The New York Times in September of last year, although Rosenstein issued a non-descript (and not entirely convincing) denial. Here’s Pelley:


And:


According to anonymous FBI officials talking to The Times, McCabe and his associates even kept “contemporaneous memos” on their actions and meetings with Trump—again another effort to find the president guilty of some crime. According to one of these memos, Rosenstein and McCabe determined they needed to peel off eight of the 15 cabinet officials. And Rosenstein suggested that he might have supporters “in the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security.”


Yikes. Here we have a formerly powerful and unelected government official, for all the world to see, admitting that the FBI tried to launch a coup against the constitutionally elected president of the United States, in only the first few months of his tenure. But there’s more going on than that. Here are seven quick takeaways on McCabe’s revelation of his planned coup.


1. McCabe Proves Trump Firing Comey Was Justified

2. McCabe and His Co-conspirators Only Ever Had The Dossier to Go On

3. Much Of This Seems Like A Cover-up

4. The Conspirators Might Be Turning On Each Other

5. McCabe Might Be Telling The Truth About Rosenstein

6. The Whole Russia Probe Is Tainted And Corrupt

7. Comey, McCabe, Clapper, And Brennan Are Unpatriotic Dopes
Ok dumbass, if all that is true why isn’t trump going after them?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
It's kind of frightening to see MR and Trans defending the FBI abusing their power in order to overthrow our government and unseat our elected President.

Don't you remember when liberals were liberal instead of Marxist?
When is trump going to appoint a SC to investigate this coup?
 
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