Obama supports Muslim Mosque

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ImnoMensa

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Destroying a physical symbol of a spiritual belief does not remove it.
The early Christians gatherd underground to worship and talk about Jesus and the Romans tried to hunt them down, shut them down, but beliefs won over physical threats and actions.

If you find religious beliefs offensive, then go and begin to make change..in this case change our US Constitution and remove/rewrite the 1st Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

No one is trying to tell the Muslims they cannot build a mosque.

It is the location that is being objected to.

There are already many mosques in New York, this one is being built with the specific intention of getting in the faces of Americans who lost people during 911 . Even the name is a clue to the reason for it being built so close to the WTC site.

The Constitution states freedom of religion , it doesnt say anything about a state not having the right to refuse a specific location.
 

Matthew

New Member
Destroying a physical symbol of a spiritual belief does not remove it.
The early Christians gatherd underground to worship and talk about Jesus and the Romans tried to hunt them down, shut them down, but beliefs won over physical threats and actions.

If you find religious beliefs offensive, then go and begin to make change..in this case change our US Constitution and remove/rewrite the 1st Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Did you get the idea? No symbols of any religion, period. Therefore no more holier than thou, no more mine is higher than yours, etc. Yes, people can worship in houses and in glens. No better house of Worship than what the Creator provides.
 

Highlander

ONE NATION UNDER GOD
Did you get the idea? No symbols of any religion, period. Therefore no more holier than thou, no more mine is higher than yours, etc. Yes, people can worship in houses and in glens. No better house of Worship than what the Creator provides.

I just googled "Do americans support mosque?" The polls seemed to range from 54% to 88% against it.

Here's a midrange poll at 70%. I didn't see much real support for it other than from Obamie. I almost called him our President.

CNN Poll: Nearly 70% Of Americans Oppose NYC Mosque Plan
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
Just watching the MSM reporting on ZERO's attempt to wriggle out of the bad response to his speech. Now he's parsing (remember parsing from the Clinton era?). He only said the Muslims have the right to build a mosque. He didn't say anything about where they build their mosque.

The lying SOB must have been swimming in the gulf and came out slippery with oil.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
Just watching the MSM reporting on ZERO's attempt to wriggle out of the bad response to his speech. Now he's parsing (remember parsing from the Clinton era?). He only said the Muslims have the right to build a mosque. He didn't say anything about where they build their mosque.

The lying SOB must have been swimming in the gulf and came out slippery with oil.

Many had wondered whether Obama would take a presidential plunge into the warm waters of the Gulf to send his message home.

Obama in fact did so Saturday, swimming off Alligator Point with daughter Sasha. Obama caused a bit of a tabloid stir when he took off his shirt to reveal a muscular physique during trips to Hawaii.

Yes he did. And now the gulf is oilier than before.

'Our job is not finished,' Obama says on the Gulf Coast - CNN.com
 

Dakota

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Last night I made a joke about opening a 'gay bar' next to the mosque but it appears Greg Gutfeld already came up with an even better idea... A gay ISLAMIC bar... named "suspicious packages?" :lmao:



I think I might have to pick up his book! The Bible of Unspeakable Truths
 
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Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
According to B. Hussein Obama's Youthfulness......

...he studied the Qu'ran while he was an elementary student for at least 2-3 years, while he and his parental guides lived in Indonesia. Did he learn anything about the Islamic faction(s) way back then?

Apparentily he was 7 to 8 yrs old. What did he learn from those lessons?
 

Highlander

ONE NATION UNDER GOD
Last night I made a joke about opening a 'gay bar' next to the mosque but it appears Greg Gutfeld already came up with an even better idea... A gay ISLAMIC bar... named "suspicious packages?" :lmao:



I think I might have to pick up his book! The Bible of Unspeakable Truths


That was funny! lol. :killingme
 

Katelin

one day the dark will end
The 2 mosques in Lower Manhattan are 4 blocks ( founded in 1970) and 12 blocks ( founded 1985) from where the WTC stood.

The location of the new mosque is 3 blocks away...in the old Burlington Coat Factory.It is not a Ground Zero location, rather 2 blocks away and is near a Woolworth, St Pauls Chapel, St Peters Catholic Church, Tweed Courthouse and Oh God...one block away from J&R Music World...
Also near by is an Amish Market

Are we to zone off a 3-5-8 block radius of the remains of the World trade Center because someone we dont like wants to move in?
Because many people died there for no reason?
Are we to block off the spot on Rt 2/4 where John Smith or Jane Doe died so no cars run over the sacred spot where he/she died for no reason?
How about building a house over sacred gound belonging to native americans who died cause we didnt like them?
Or how about blocking NYC to all who we dont like?

The old Burlington Coat Factory is the location of the new mosque...The address is 45 Park Place...go look at a map....
At least 38 Muslims died in the WTC..a good number worked there....and were good Americans.

The Muslins of Lower Manhatten have been using the building all ready...and no one complaind until now...Go figure....another case of Obama Bashing...\

Read a bit more before you comaplin more.


Oh, The spot where the first American was killed by a British soldier that was called "The Bloody Massacre in King Street". on March 3, 1770..and that man was a free black man...who was killed by the British for no reason....and guess what...the place where he died and spilled blood in now in the middle of the road in downtown Boston.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Katelin since you are an Obama supporter I hope you will answer the questions I posted for those that voted for Obama.
 

ImnoMensa

New Member
The 2 mosques in Lower Manhattan are 4 blocks ( founded in 1970) and 12 blocks ( founded 1985) from where the WTC stood.

The location of the new mosque is 3 blocks away...in the old Burlington Coat Factory.It is not a Ground Zero location, rather 2 blocks away and is near a Woolworth, St Pauls Chapel, St Peters Catholic Church, Tweed Courthouse and Oh God...one block away from J&R Music World...
Also near by is an Amish Market

Are we to zone off a 3-5-8 block radius of the remains of the World trade Center because someone we dont like wants to move in?
Because many people died there for no reason?
Are we to block off the spot on Rt 2/4 where John Smith or Jane Doe died so no cars run over the sacred spot where he/she died for no reason?
How about building a house over sacred gound belonging to native americans who died cause we didnt like them?
Or how about blocking NYC to all who we dont like?

The old Burlington Coat Factory is the location of the new mosque...The address is 45 Park Place...go look at a map....
At least 38 Muslims died in the WTC..a good number worked there....and were good Americans.

The Muslins of Lower Manhatten have been using the building all ready...and no one complaind until now...Go figure....another case of Obama Bashing...\

Read a bit more before you comaplin more.


Oh, The spot where the first American was killed by a British soldier that was called "The Bloody Massacre in King Street". on March 3, 1770..and that man was a free black man...who was killed by the British for no reason....and guess what...the place where he died and spilled blood in now in the middle of the road in downtown Boston.

By your own Post you say that the Muslims have a Mosque that is 4 blocks away, and another that is 12 Blocks away from Ground Zero.

Now they are about to sheit to have another Mosque that is a block away from one of their other Mosques. Do they really need two Mosques a block from each other? Or are they doing this just to prove they can build a Mosque at the site or near the site of one of their Victories.

New York state has offered to find them a more appropriate site for their new Mosque, but they are determined to build as close as they can get to their Victorious 911 assault.

It doesn't take a genious to figure out what is going on, but failure to do so, that isn't altogether surprising for one who still believes in Obama.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
It is not a Ground Zero location
The original building in this location was clipped by landing gear from one of the planes as it came in. (Credit MMDad)

Woolworth, St Pauls Chapel, St Peters Catholic Church, Tweed Courthouse and Oh God...one block away from J&R Music World...
Also near by is an Amish Market
Were any of the terrorists Amish or Christian, or employees of Woolworth's or J&R?

someone we dont like wants to move in?
The issue is not whether we "like" them, or they "like" us. A faction of their religion - their belief system - led them to murder Americans. Since then, Muslims have been disappointingly slack in denouncing their oppressive wing, yet they expect us to be all about tolerance. If they had any sense, or sensitivity, they'd build it elsewhere.

I fancy you wouldn't like to see religious ceremonies that involved the sacrifice of animals practiced near you. If someone began building a temple with a nice little altar out front, for the express purpose of offering their animal sacrifices, how open-minded would you be?

At least 38 Muslims died in the WTC..a good number worked there....and were good Americans.
If you're going to play the numbers game, go back and read on that poll Highlander posted a couple hours ago.

The spot where the first American was killed by a British soldier...the place where he died and spilled blood in now in the middle of the road in downtown Boston.
That was built over generations ago, a time beyond our control. And there is a memorial to him and the other casualties on the Boston Common.

This debate now is something we can control... before something is done that someone, on either side, will ultimately regret.
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
This debate now is something we can control... before something is done that someone, on either side, will ultimately regret.

Your points are spot on up to this point. I believe that, if this was something we can control, the project would be off the table. The fact we cannot control and the decider in this case is not sensitive to the sensibilities of the protesters is the reason for all the noise and light.
 

Highlander

ONE NATION UNDER GOD
The 2 mosques in Lower Manhattan are 4 blocks ( founded in 1970) and 12 blocks ( founded 1985) from where the WTC stood.

The location of the new mosque is 3 blocks away...in the old Burlington Coat Factory.It is not a Ground Zero location, rather 2 blocks away and is near a Woolworth, St Pauls Chapel, St Peters Catholic Church, Tweed Courthouse and Oh God...one block away from J&R Music World...
Also near by is an Amish Market

Are we to zone off a 3-5-8 block radius of the remains of the World trade Center because someone we dont like wants to move in?
Because many people died there for no reason?
Are we to block off the spot on Rt 2/4 where John Smith or Jane Doe died so no cars run over the sacred spot where he/she died for no reason?
How about building a house over sacred gound belonging to native americans who died cause we didnt like them?
Or how about blocking NYC to all who we dont like?

The old Burlington Coat Factory is the location of the new mosque...The address is 45 Park Place...go look at a map....
At least 38 Muslims died in the WTC..a good number worked there....and were good Americans.

The Muslins of Lower Manhatten have been using the building all ready...and no one complaind until now...Go figure....another case of Obama Bashing...\

Read a bit more before you comaplin more.


Oh, The spot where the first American was killed by a British soldier that was called "The Bloody Massacre in King Street". on March 3, 1770..and that man was a free black man...who was killed by the British for no reason....and guess what...the place where he died and spilled blood in now in the middle of the road in downtown Boston.

In America, we are all for religious freedom. The freedom of religion. It's a cool concept....Until now. Americans need to wake up and realize that the religion of Islam is evil and we need to keep this disease out of our country. If Muslims want to come here and convert to Chistianity, Judism, or become anything else, I welcome it. In this day , we really need to pay attention. If not, we will be destroyed as a nation. It's so sad. We were once a great country. Now we are nothing.
 
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