Observation

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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The more money people have, the more delinquent their children are.

I swear, the teen buttheads in our neighborhood have increased in direct proportion to the value of the homes in said neighborhood. There are always 2 or 3 homes for sale in our neighborhood and back when they were $200,000 homes, nice families with nice kids were moving in. Now that they are $400-$500,000 homes, these people with the FFAs (Future Felons of America) are all over the place.

These kids swear - right in front of adults!!! They don't seem to have been taught any manners or common courtesy. We have middle school skateboarders rolling down the street at 11pm on a school night.

When I lived down there I was in a slightly shabby neighborhood right around the corner from a bar. But the parents seemed to have a handle on their kids - none of this night wilding that they do here. The gals I had babysit my kids when they were little were complete gems - respectful, nice manners. Thank God my kids are too old for babysitters now because I'd never let one of these druggie skeezers near my house, let alone babysit my child. I always wondered why people don't get sitters and go out up here - now I know.

The people across the street are never home, so their kids are constantly having parties The people next door let their daughter take the car when she was only 14 years old. You oldtimers have already heard me complain about the boy-girl slumber parties.

I mean, these kids are just wild! And I swear it has to do with the parents' income.

Am I crazy??
 

Steve

Enjoying life!
vraiblonde said:
Serious - is that it? :confused:
Yes...pretty much. Times change. Your neighborhood has changed. Newfound money and opportunity moving in, but you guys stay....that's all your seeing. Maybe it's time to upgrade if you aren't happy there any more.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
My guess is that those parents are probably working upwardly-mobile jobs downtown, leaving at 5 a.m. and getting home at 8 p.m. So they are probably not involved much in their children's lives. They may also use money as a substitute for love. How sad.

Is Paris Hilton the ultimate expression of this syndrome? She's a deadly combination of entitlement and irresponsibility. If it weren't for her antics on "The Simple Life," she would serve no useful role in society.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
I think you are wrong Steve. It is not Vrai and Larry that are the problem.

Vrai, it may very well be that with the increase in price of the houses came bigger mortgages and mom and dad are not mom and dad because both are working to pay the bill. They probably commute to D.C., two hours?, more with traffic?, spend time with their own interests instead of the kids on the weekends, probably only see the kids in passing. They are not a family. There are no parents or children; just older and younger people occupying the same house living independent lives.

There is no guidance; no structure. Kids need structure. Kids need to be told the limits. Kids need to have the limits enforced. Not many "parents", and I use the term loosely, parent anymore. Good parenting takes time and effort. People are too self-centered to even care about raising their own children.
 

Lamini

Member
<-- struck with conviction, your post hit me.

i am in iraq right now trying to make more cash since i just bought a house recently at these crazy prices. sure, its only for several months, but im looking at the same situation again and again: away from family for months at a time trying to keep the finances in check. maybe i went a little overboard, i just sat next to a couple human remains on a c-130 last week while travelling in iraq just to make some money.

however if im not at work, im with the family 100% of the time. i have a 3 year old and i missed over 1/2 her life already. its tough to say the least, im sure we all know. at least the wife is there to take care of the house and family...

but my gut just gets wretched every time come back home from long trips and my little one cries in fear as she doesnt know me.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Lamini said:
but my gut just gets wretched every time come back home from long trips and my little one cries in fear as she doesnt know me.
Doesn't hardly seem worth it, does it?

Best of luck to you and your family. Don't keep that job too long - little girls need Daddies.
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
I think it's always been the case that the families with more money have more rotten children. I imagine it could be from any number of reasons. My guess is that they're all much too cultured and educated to even consider publicly embarrassing their children or giving them a good whack across the back of the head when they need it. :shrug:I don't agree 2A that it's due to mom and dad both working. I do agree that not spending time with your kids and never being there to observe what they're all about turns them in to heathens. I'm not so much in to spending "quality time" and doing whatever it is that will make my kids have fun with me. Moreso I like them knowing that I'm always watching and they've got to put some serious effort in to juvenile delinquency if they want to get away with it. :lol: Hence I have perfect children. :angel: :wink:
 

dustin

UAIOE
I think you just got a bunch of rotten kids around you Vrai. I believe all rotten kids are spread out fairly equally along the financial spectrum throughout the USA.
 
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ladylara

Guest
vraiblonde said:
Best of luck to you and your family. Don't keep that job too long - little girls need Daddies.
i agree! and wives need their hubbies, too!

i agree with your thread, vrai. i live in CRE and i am constantly dumbfounded at the kids roaming around the dark, dangerous streets at night. after our mailbox was smashed THREE times we got a PObox and i think that alone is a sad statement about this neighborhood! i just love that we pay a yearly fee to live here and have to put up with this stuff! :sarcasm:

and *i* am one of those parents that doesn't go out because i don't trust anyone to babysit! call me overprotective, but the way things are going lately, how can a parent NOT be? :frown:
 

Lamini

Member
ladylara said:
i agree! and wives need their hubbies, too!
and *i* am one of those parents that doesn't go out because i don't trust anyone to babysit! call me overprotective, but the way things are going lately, how can a parent NOT be? :frown:

after we first moved in to our new house... i took my kids outside to play for the first time, but then i saw this:

about 8 children around a car, 2 boys on the hood, one choking the other while the others agreed (cheered) / disagreed (wanted help).

some time later a neighbor asked me why i dont take my kids out so much to play. i told her of that incident and she understood why.

several weeks later, i was about to take the kids out again to play with the others. first thing i see is a kid riding a bicycle, then a boy pushed a 3 wheeled kiddy bicycle into the kid riding the bike (and fell). but that didnt stop me. not until i saw another kid take my kids bike from her and ride around the block with it
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Lamini said:
after we first moved in to our new house... i took my kids outside to play for the first time, but then i saw this:

about 8 children around a car, 2 boys on the hood, one choking the other while the others agreed (cheered) / disagreed (wanted help).

some time later a neighbor asked me why i dont take my kids out so much to play. i told her of that incident and she understood why.

several weeks later, i was about to take the kids out again to play with the others. first thing i see is a kid riding a bicycle, then a boy pushed a 3 wheeled kiddy bicycle into the kid riding the bike (and fell). but that didnt stop me. not until i saw another kid take my kids bike from her and ride around the block with it
Don't you just wish you could jerk a knot into these kids and their "parents"?
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
2ndAmendment said:
Don't you just wish you could jerk a knot into these kids and their "parents"?
Just remember body shots only (soft tissue) head shots can be tough on the hands. I have told parents to rein in their spawn before. I had a kid ride his bike into the road in front of me, luckily my wife saw him first and yelled stop. I missed by 2 ft. Yep, I let mom and dad know what happened and told them that their kid was goin to be statistic if they were not careful.
 

sinwagon

New Member
vraiblonde said:
The more money people have, the more delinquent their children are.

I swear, the teen buttheads in our neighborhood have increased in direct proportion to the value of the homes in said neighborhood. There are always 2 or 3 homes for sale in our neighborhood and back when they were $200,000 homes, nice families with nice kids were moving in. Now that they are $400-$500,000 homes, these people with the FFAs (Future Felons of America) are all over the place.

These kids swear - right in front of adults!!! They don't seem to have been taught any manners or common courtesy. We have middle school skateboarders rolling down the street at 11pm on a school night.

When I lived down there I was in a slightly shabby neighborhood right around the corner from a bar. But the parents seemed to have a handle on their kids - none of this night wilding that they do here. The gals I had babysit my kids when they were little were complete gems - respectful, nice manners. Thank God my kids are too old for babysitters now because I'd never let one of these druggie skeezers near my house, let alone babysit my child. I always wondered why people don't get sitters and go out up here - now I know.

The people across the street are never home, so their kids are constantly having parties The people next door let their daughter take the car when she was only 14 years old. You oldtimers have already heard me complain about the boy-girl slumber parties.

I mean, these kids are just wild! And I swear it has to do with the parents' income.

Am I crazy??

This is so true! I was a nanny for various families for 10 years. Ofcourse the people that can afford to have nanny's are well to do and live in HUGE houses mostly in Annapolis. My last nanny gig, the kids would hit the parents, threw firewood in the middle of the hood of my car pulled my daughter down cement steps backwards, broke things, beat his little brothers and guess what? He was only 4! Guess what else? It ONLY occured when the parents came home in the evening or stayed home for the day and they still had me come. The kid was perfect until the parents came home. Needless to say, that was my last nanny gig!
 

ajhkmr97

TexasPride1977
Personally, I think that we as Americans are becoming more and more self-centered in nature. There are more technology items on the market to cater to our individual lifestyles and we customize everything to suit our desires - so much that we live like we are in bubbles or something. We dont share any more, we steal / pirate what we can because we can, we dont teach our kids how to be civilized because we are too busy tending to our own desires that the kids are put on the back burner. And lets not forget that everything is more expensive now days and so you have to work longer to earn a buck. No wonder why we spend so much time to ourselves! By the time we do get off work - the kids are the last things we want to deal with. Let them go out side to play or something so I can watch TV or something....or just be alone.

Kids are sent to public school to get the latest ideals on life from an inexperienced peer group. Homeschoolers have an advantage in that they know what goes into their kids heads for the most part and dont have to deal with their kids succoming to peer pressures. Sterile environments are not healthy either but in some cases - what is the alternative?

Kids are just as self centered as their parents. If you see a kid act up - blame the parent - definately. Go knock on the door....give your 2 cents!

Ok...I'm done
 

sinwagon

New Member
ajhkmr97 said:
Personally, I think that we as Americans are becoming more and more self-centered in nature. There are more technology items on the market to cater to our individual lifestyles and we customize everything to suit our desires - so much that we live like we are in bubbles or something. We dont share any more, we steal / pirate what we can because we can, we dont teach our kids how to be civilized because we are too busy tending to our own desires that the kids are put on the back burner. And lets not forget that everything is more expensive now days and so you have to work longer to earn a buck. No wonder why we spend so much time to ourselves! By the time we do get off work - the kids are the last things we want to deal with. Let them go out side to play or something so I can watch TV or something....or just be alone.

Kids are sent to public school to get the latest ideals on life from an inexperienced peer group. Homeschoolers have an advantage in that they know what goes into their kids heads for the most part and dont have to deal with their kids succoming to peer pressures. Sterile environments are not healthy either but in some cases - what is the alternative?

Kids are just as self centered as their parents. If you see a kid act up - blame the parent - definately. Go knock on the door....give your 2 cents!

Ok...I'm done


Oh and....humilation is a key to parenting! If you put your kid in his/her place in front of their friends, they are sure to think twice about pulling any crap again!

And its NOT CRE, I live here too and everyone on our street is great! Granted I have heard of quite a few elsewhere. I am not excluding CRE but its not just hear. When I read the headlines each day (as I was just mentioning to hubby) most of the problems/crimes seem to be St. Mary's & Charles. I was just saying to him "how can all that trouble happen in Amish country?"
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
2ndAmendment said:
I think you are wrong Steve. It is not Vrai and Larry that are the problem.

Vrai, it may very well be that with the increase in price of the houses came bigger mortgages and mom and dad are not mom and dad because both are working to pay the bill. They probably commute to D.C., two hours?, more with traffic?, spend time with their own interests instead of the kids on the weekends, probably only see the kids in passing. They are not a family. There are no parents or children; just older and younger people occupying the same house living independent lives.

There is no guidance; no structure. Kids need structure. Kids need to be told the limits. Kids need to have the limits enforced. Not many "parents", and I use the term loosely, parent anymore. Good parenting takes time and effort. People are too self-centered to even care about raising their own children.
I have to agree, Columbine anyone?
 
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