Old Testament and New Testament
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Radiant1
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The OT is a preparation or progressive revelation of God which reaches its fulfillment in the person of Jesus Christ. There is no NT without the OT, they go hand in hand.
Catechism of the Catholic Church - PART 1 SECTION 1 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 2
Lugnut
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nachomama
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Thanks.
So the lessons/rules from both are considered binding by the church?
Luggy, just what is it that you have you done?
Speed Racer
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I'll do the best I can to relay how it was explained by the "Teaching" Pastors I've had the privilege to listen to:
The Old Testament describes the early relationship between God and man - man's creation, his fall from grace (Adam & Eve) and the subsequent struggles man experienced as a result. Throughout the Old Testament man tries to atone for their sins through sacrifices in the temples built to God. Per custom, the common man was not allowed to perform the sacrifices (of a lamb) much less even enter into the temples, so intermediaries were chosen (priests, etc) to perform the services. There was one area of the temple in which the Arc of the Covenant was kept behind a curtain and only the holiest/highest priests could enter.
The New Testament describes man’s new relationship with God. As a result of Jesus (called the Lamb of God) dying /atoning for the sins of man, temple sacrifices were no longer required. The tearing of the temple curtain at the moment of Christ’s death signified that man no longer needed an intermediary in order to have a relationship with God the Father.
This is a really simplistit version. I found the whole explanation of the Old & New Testaments absolutely fascinating.
The Old Testament describes the early relationship between God and man - man's creation, his fall from grace (Adam & Eve) and the subsequent struggles man experienced as a result. Throughout the Old Testament man tries to atone for their sins through sacrifices in the temples built to God. Per custom, the common man was not allowed to perform the sacrifices (of a lamb) much less even enter into the temples, so intermediaries were chosen (priests, etc) to perform the services. There was one area of the temple in which the Arc of the Covenant was kept behind a curtain and only the holiest/highest priests could enter.
The New Testament describes man’s new relationship with God. As a result of Jesus (called the Lamb of God) dying /atoning for the sins of man, temple sacrifices were no longer required. The tearing of the temple curtain at the moment of Christ’s death signified that man no longer needed an intermediary in order to have a relationship with God the Father.
This is a really simplistit version. I found the whole explanation of the Old & New Testaments absolutely fascinating.
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toppick08
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What do I know..??.....I'm just a Methodist.....:big smile:
Lugnut
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Luggy, just what is it that you have you done?
Just curious. Seems like I'm getting caught in religious discussions a lot lately. I find the topic interesting but I don't know enough about it.I wont hold it against ya.
I asked about the catholic church because to my knowledge, they are the largest christian church. Am I wrong in thinking that?
Radiant1
Soul Probe
Thanks.
So the lessons/rules from both are considered binding by the church?
Lessons? Yes. Rules? It depends; moral rules (10 commandments) are binding whereas legislative rules such as found in Leviticus are not.
No.
jenbengen
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The OT discusses God and his revelation and the NT is about Jesus, who he is in relationship to God, and what he offers.
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Speed Racer
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Great explanation.
I was baptized and raised a Catholic, but it wasn't until I attended a Christian church with a "Teaching Pastor" that I REALLY learned all about the bible. There is SO much interesting info in Old Testament that I couldn't wait until the next week's sermons. For example the whole story of Abraham, Sarah & Hagar. Isaac, the son of Abraham & Sarah established the Christian religion while Ishmael, the son of Abraham & Hagar established the Muslim religions.
Starman3000m
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Actually, "Christianity" is a Jewish sect and is the prophetic fulfillment of a New Covenant which is what Orthodox Judaism still awaits today. It's the difference between the Old Covenant which followers of Moses were bound to and the New Covenant between God and all mankind which has been established through Jesus - as detailed in the New Testament accounts.
IOW: There is One Faith (Ephesians 4:4-6) not two religions. God has made the provision to unite all people (Jews and Gentiles) as He promised through the New Covenant that He established through the Atoning Blood of Jesus Christ.
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Radiant1
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They aren't separate religions per se. We are a Christian-Judeo people. Jews just didn't get with the full program.
Think of it this way. God created the universe in "six days" and on the "seventh" He rested. Adam and Eve screwed up resulting in the fall of mankind. Throughout the OT we see God re-creating His people. He makes five covenants with His people in the OT (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David), and then a sixth in the person of Jesus Christ, the NT. What's the seventh? He rests upon the Second Coming.
2lazy2P
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They aren't separate religions per se. We are a Christian-Judeo people. Jews just didn't get with the full program.
Think of it this way. God created the universe in "six days" and on the "seventh" He rested. Adam and Eve screwed up resulting in the fall of mankind. Throughout the OT we see God re-creating His people. He makes five covenants with His people in the OT (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David), and then a sixth in the person of Jesus Christ, the NT. What's the seventh? He rests upon the Second Coming.
Oh wow, very interesting about the 7th. Thanks for the input!
Starman3000m
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They aren't separate religions per se. We are a Christian-Judeo people. Jews just didn't get with the full program...
Technicality: It was the "Orthodox Jewish leaders" who didn't accept nor believe that Jesus was their prophesied Moshiach.
The first "Christians" were actually several thousand Jewish/Israeli believers who continue in the faith and belief in Christ today (Messianic Jews). Salvation came first to the "Jews" then the Gentiles.