Oregon Rottie Kills Child

ArkRescue

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This story really hits the nail on the head about how careful we need to be with dogs and small children. I've always had big breeds and I know how wonderful they can be. It's so sad the child died.

Astoria-area mauling death shows how instincts can change dogs from
friendly to ferocious

Astoria-area mauling death shows how instincts can change dogs from friendly to ferocious | OregonLive.com

By Lori Tobias, The Oregonian
March 03, 2010, 7:56PM

A tragic event in Clatsop County has many dog owners wondering how a
trusted friend suddenly turns into a killer.

Animal behaviorists say it's really no mystery but rather instincts,
and virtually every dog has them. But when those predatory behaviors
are exhibited by the larger, more powerful breeds, such as Rottweilers
or pit bulls, serious injury or even death can occur.

That cruel fact was brought home Sunday to a family in Svensen, near
Astoria, when 4-year-old Ashlynn Anderson was mauled to death by one
of the family's Rottweilers.

Clatsop County Sheriff Tom Bergin said Ashlynn was playing in the
front yard of the family's rural home about 1 p.m. and two Rottweilers
were in a separate area divided from Ashlynn by a 4-foot fence.

But when Ashlynn's mother, D'ette Browning, looked out to check on her
daughter, she saw the girl on the ground and one of the dogs standing
nearby. Ashlynn's stepfather, Jesse Browning, called 9-1-1, and medics
responded quickly, Bergin said. But it was too late. A helicopter
rushed Ashlynn to OHSU Hospital in Portland, but she was pronounced
dead on arrival.

No one may ever know exactly what happened, but animal behaviorists
say it is likely something triggered the dog's prey drive. It's the
same drive found in all canids, such as foxes and wolves, said Heather
Toland, director of the DoveLewis Animal Assisted Therapy and
Education Program.

"They scan, they alert, they target, they chase, they grab, they might
shake, they kill and they dissect," Toland said. "A 4-year-old child
moves and looks a lot like prey, and dogs are first and foremost
predators. When a 4-year-old squeals, in delight to us, to the dog
that may sound like an injured rabbit, as it's running around flailing
its arms and legs."

But it also may have been nothing the child did and any number of
triggers in the environment, said Tanya Roberts, Training and Behavior
Department manager at the Oregon Humane Society. The dog might have
become excited by a squirrel or by the other Rottweiler. It might have
simply smelled something or seen someone passing the home.

"It's very, very common," said Roberts. "It's why dogs chase balls,
kids on bicycles. It's just something that dogs do.

"We have to respect that it is something they do and put in safety
perimeters for children. I don't think it is a good idea to leave
young kids and animals in the home unattended. Guards go down; you
think everything is fine. You don't know what the environment is going
to do. It only takes a second for something to happen."

And when it involves a large, powerful dog, such as a Rottweiler, the
ending is potentially tragic.

That's one of the reasons Rottweilers are often labeled as dangerous
or aggressive. But in fact, they really are no different from other
dogs, said Toland. What can be different, however, is breeding and
training.

"I've had a fabulous Rottweiler in my therapy program," she said, but
"any dog can be ill bred."

"There is a lot to be said about careful breeding, not breeding for
looks but for temperament."

Training from a young age is also key, as is early socialization,
adequate exercise and attention.

Dog owners also need to remember that not every dog can be in every
situation successfully, said Jacqui Neilson, veterinarian and
board-certified veterinary behaviorist.

"All animals come with some risks," Neilson said. "When you know there
are certain situations your dog is not good in, you may need to take
steps to avoid those situations or manage those situations so he can't
put others at risk.

"Some of the nicest dogs I've ever met are Rotties. You can't take a
broad brush and paint it. But you do have to be more careful with
large breed dogs just because they can inflict more damage."

-- Lori Tobias
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
People just don't think. They are such shallow thinkers it amazes me. I am not one to believe in breed bias..but there are some things to consider when choosing a pet. I love rottis..beautiful dogs. But as a young woman..I will very likely be having children in the next few years, they are off my list because they are large and pwerful dogs..likely I will target my search when the time comes to animals that are smaller and known "family" dogs. And I am still not sure why people would leave small children and dogs unnattended...esp a dog of that size and power.
 

ArkRescue

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It's so very sad. There was another story recently about a breeder of American Bull Dogs who didn't notice a toddler went to the dogs outside and she was killed - that happened in just a few minutes - it doesn't take long. Here's that story:

Girl, 3, killed in bulldog attack

Girl, 3, killed in bulldog attack - Florida AP - MiamiHerald.com



OCALA, Fla. -- A 3-year-old girl who was attacked by a bulldog outside her Ocala-area home has died.

According to a Marion County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman, the girl was playing outside while her mother cleaned a dog pen Saturday. She got tangled in a dog chain when her mother went inside the home.

That's when a male dog attacked the girl, whose name wasn't immediately released.

The Ocala Star-Banner reports that four dogs were outside the home at the time of the attack, but investigators believe just one of the animals was involved. All the dogs were taken by county animal services officials.


People just don't think. They are such shallow thinkers it amazes me. I am not one to believe in breed bias..but there are some things to consider when choosing a pet. I love rottis..beautiful dogs. But as a young woman..I will very likely be having children in the next few years, they are off my list because they are large and pwerful dogs..likely I will target my search when the time comes to animals that are smaller and known "family" dogs. And I am still not sure why people would leave small children and dogs unnattended...esp a dog of that size and power.
 

TurboK9

New Member
People just don't think. They are such shallow thinkers it amazes me. I am not one to believe in breed bias..but there are some things to consider when choosing a pet. I love rottis..beautiful dogs. But as a young woman..I will very likely be having children in the next few years, they are off my list because they are large and pwerful dogs..likely I will target my search when the time comes to animals that are smaller and known "family" dogs. And I am still not sure why people would leave small children and dogs unnattended...esp a dog of that size and power.

:buddies:

Here here. Too many large breed owners simply do not understand the importance of treating a large dog like a large dog. You can only trust them to the degree that they are animals, and will do what animals do, regardless of whether you consider them a 'part of the family'. Too many people do not get the fact that you might be able to train a dog to do a lot of things, but you can't train it to not be a dog. They are never 100% predictable, no matter how 'nice' or well behaved.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
To be fair to the parents, the child was separated from the dogs by a 4' fence.

this is true. But the one TINNNYYY bit of helicoptering in my bones thinks I would have a hard time letting a 4 year old be outside alone..maybe older..but 4 seems a tad young? I dunno, I don't have one.
 

morningbell

hmmmmmm
Good Dog Carl :frown:
 

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TurboK9

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To be fair to the parents, the child was separated from the dogs by a 4' fence.

Yeah...

I've seen Rotties climb 8 foot walls effortlessly in competition. A four foot fense won't slow one down. As Rottie owners they should have known that, it was their responsibilty. I've got a six foot fence, and I would never consider leaving my dogs out in the yard untended.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Gee, where's all the stories of Mastiffs, Great Danes, Boxers, Shepherds, Labs etc. killing kids?

Ban the deed not the breed by big black ass!! Pitts & Rotts are born killers!!

The end.
 

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
Yeah...

I've seen Rotties climb 8 foot walls effortlessly in competition. A four foot fense won't slow one down. As Rottie owners they should have known that, it was their responsibilty. I've got a six foot fence, and I would never consider leaving my dogs out in the yard untended.

My point was, at least they didn't leave them in the yard together. At least they attempted to separate them.
 

TurboK9

New Member
Gee, where's all the stories of Mastiffs, Great Danes, Boxers, Shepherds, Labs etc. killing kids?

Ban the deed not the breed by big black ass!! Pitts & Rotts are born killers!!

The end.

Same dogs as yesterday. Different thread. Mal bit a four year old girl t'other day... a CUSTOMS K9... :shrug:
 

TurboK9

New Member
My point was, at least they didn't leave them in the yard together. At least they attempted to separate them.

I can understand you looking at it that way, but I see people who didn't take two big dogs seriously. I'd be willing to bet that they were not trained (well) and were typically left outside too...
 

TurboK9

New Member
I thought the last name in the other thread (Ax Men) was Browning?

Tis. Same kid. Same dogs. Kid had a different last name, remarried mama or some such I guess. Read the article.

Edit: Unless you are referring to the Bulldog.... That was an AB, not a pit, and again, fits a "stupid owner" profile... Mom left the kid alone... with CHAINED dogs. "She got tangled in a dog chain when her mother went inside the home."

I think, more than banning the dogs, we need to ban stupid people. Sorry Baja, but I can't place the blame on a breed when ultimately, it's people being stupid and / or irresponsible who are responsible. SOme people just shouldn't own dogs. ESPECIALLY large breed, potentially deadly dogs.
 
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thesilentwoman

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NO child under the age of ten should EVER be left alone in the company of ANY dog, regardless of size, history or demeanor. A dog is an ANIMAL, just like a wolf, a fox, a lion or an orca and YOU, faithful owner, DO NOT KNOW WHAT MIGHT TRIGGER A "NEGATIVE" BEHAVIOR IN YOUR DOG. I love my dogs and trust them in most situations but they are NEVER left alone in the same room or in the yard with my young grandchildren---it only takes a second for something tragic to happen. I will never forget the child I saw in the ER long ago who was eating cookies at the child sized table when the aunt's toy poodle, unprovoked, attacked her. That poor girl lost an eye and was disfigured for the rest of her life...
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
I saw this article and thought it was interesting.... not sure how I feel about it though, what do you guys think?

Preventing Dog Bites: Software Aimed at Teaching Kids Respect for Pets - ABC News

I'm kinda on the fence about it... it would be great if it can help an older child learn about dog behaviour but I can also see it letting stupid owners be even more complacent about leaving kids alone with dogs. (any breed of dog)

One thing I found ironic in the story, was that some of the children mauled would not benefit from the software. The parents knowing not to leave a newborn alone with any dog would have to be the key!

Again, I state that people should be licensed to have both pets and kids. Or even one or the other. :buddies:
 

Crashpupty

havoc is havoc
People need to understand that you do not bring a dog into your family, you actually make yourself part of the pack. Dogs are pack oriented, you establish yourself as alpha and the dog respects that. This does not mean the dog now views your family ( the rest of the pack) in the same way. The family has to be involved in the training to help the dog know where in his new pack he falls. If not the dog will challenge to move up in the pack. The larger the breed the more damage that can be done. Small dogs don't make the news when they bite, but large powerful breeds do. The owners of the large powerful breeds I sure hope they understand that they have a huge commitment and resposiblity to the dog, pack and community.
 

vraiblonde

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A tragic event in Clatsop County has many dog owners wondering how a trusted friend suddenly turns into a killer.

A trusted friend does not turn into a killer. A dog is not your friend - it's an animal, a pet. And if you trust it, you are stupid.

This is why animal nutties are so annoying - they humanize their pets. I feel sorry for these dogs that maul little kids. Yes, you read that correctly. 9 times out of 10, they shouldn't have been left alone with the kid in the first place and many of them shouldn't be around people at all. But animal mommies insist that their precious would never hurt a fly and they get careless. So now a dog - a damned animal - is demonized for doing what nature tells it to do.

And some human gets nailed in the process.

Peter Pan is a work of fiction and Nana isn't really a babysitter.
 

ArkRescue

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In this case of the American Bull Dog - the owner was a breeder who also showed the breed - so she knew full well the implications of not being cautious enough - this was not an in-experienced dog owner. Very sad to have happened either way.

Tis. Same kid. Same dogs. Kid had a different last name, remarried mama or some such I guess. Read the article.

Edit: Unless you are referring to the Bulldog.... That was an AB, not a pit, and again, fits a "stupid owner" profile... Mom left the kid alone... with CHAINED dogs. "She got tangled in a dog chain when her mother went inside the home."

I think, more than banning the dogs, we need to ban stupid people. Sorry Baja, but I can't place the blame on a breed when ultimately, it's people being stupid and / or irresponsible who are responsible. SOme people just shouldn't own dogs. ESPECIALLY large breed, potentially deadly dogs.
 
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