Over 6000 IRR personnel to be called up
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I think some clarification on what the Individual ready reserve is might be needed here.
When you join the military, every enlistment is actually 8 years long. But the amount of time on active duty can vary. If you spend 4 years on active duty, the remaining 4 years will be IRR. The vast majority of those in the IRR don't attend drills, don't get payed, and don't get any benefits of any kind. They are simply a name on a list somewhere.
It is possible to volunteer to remain in the IRR once your mandatory time is up or too volunteer to return to active duty while in the IRR, but when you do not volunteer but are called back to active service (up to 4 years after leaving originally), its considered an involuntary callup.
So basically, up to 4 years after leaving the military you can be told to drop what your doing and report for duty. You can say its their own fault for joining the military in the first place, but at the same time, the IRR is one of those minute details the recruiters don't tend to spend much time on.
When you join the military, every enlistment is actually 8 years long. But the amount of time on active duty can vary. If you spend 4 years on active duty, the remaining 4 years will be IRR. The vast majority of those in the IRR don't attend drills, don't get payed, and don't get any benefits of any kind. They are simply a name on a list somewhere.
It is possible to volunteer to remain in the IRR once your mandatory time is up or too volunteer to return to active duty while in the IRR, but when you do not volunteer but are called back to active service (up to 4 years after leaving originally), its considered an involuntary callup.
So basically, up to 4 years after leaving the military you can be told to drop what your doing and report for duty. You can say its their own fault for joining the military in the first place, but at the same time, the IRR is one of those minute details the recruiters don't tend to spend much time on.
SuperGrover
jack of all trades
shoulda read the enlistment contract BEFORE signing. BTW, it's not written in small print, you can only blame yourself, not the recruiters.
HisBoyElroy
New Member
I got out of the service in July of '90 and was 'Re-activated' from the IRR soon after for Gulf War I. I had to drop out of my first semester of college after we already took mid-terms. Nobody ever attempted to hide the fact that we were signing up for an 8 year committment. We could choose to do 2, 4, or 6 years active duty when we enlisted, but had to serve 8 years total. You get better benefits for doing more active duty (ie more money for the GI bill). Not sure if any of this has changed since, but I think it is unrealistic to suggest that it's a 'minute detail' that the recruiters don't spend enough time explaining. It was crystal clear to me and all of the guys I served with.
While most of the guys didn't want to come back into the military, nobody felt like they were getting screwed. The truth is when you enlist, you volunteer for active and inactive duty. When you enlist and are called back to active service, you still volunteered when you enlisted. If you are drafted without ever enlisting it is involuntary.
>>When you enlist and are called back to active service, you still volunteered when you enlisted.<<
Involuntary activation is the actual term used by the military. And it merely refers to someone who did not specifically request to be activated from the IRR.
Sure all of these people signed a contract for their original enlistment, otherwise it would be a draft, not an involuntary activation.
Involuntary activation is the actual term used by the military. And it merely refers to someone who did not specifically request to be activated from the IRR.
Sure all of these people signed a contract for their original enlistment, otherwise it would be a draft, not an involuntary activation.
Originally posted by tys_mommy
So say you serve all 8 years as active, do you still have the 2 years of IRR on top of that? And I thought that they could call you back up for upto 4 years in time of war
It's my understanding that the contract is for 8 years in whatever combination of active, reserve or IRR you happen to serve. So, any call up beyond the 8 years would require you to sign your name again or an act of congress.
I believe that the active duty requirement is 2 to 6 years, so you would have to reenlist to get to 8 years. But its also my understanding that you can request to be assigned to active duty when in the IRR. Title 10 of the USC seems a bit unclear to me in this area.
Vince
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Here's another bit of information. Even after you've served 20 years and "retired", they can call you back until the 30 year mark. You're not really retired after 20, just transfered to the Fleet Reserve. Of course you'll probably be the last one they call, but you could be called nevertheless. Once you've accumulated 30 years, then you're officially retired.
If they called me tomorrow, I'd go in a heartbeat.
If they called me tomorrow, I'd go in a heartbeat.
