'Pay It Forward' Is for Commies

[GURPS]

Here's a straightforward (if not touchy-feely liberal utopian) description of the trend from five years ago:

The concept of pay it forward is simple. Do a good deed for someone else and then they feel inspired to do a good deed for another person and so on and so forth. In it’s drive-thru incarnation, this takes the form of telling the cashier that you would like to pay for the person behind you. Because the person behind you has already placed their order, the cashier can tell you what that is and charge you for it. Alternatively, you can give the cashier $5 and they will relay that to the following customer, who will then only have to pay the difference. In both instances, the cashier or barista will ask the person if they would like to pay it forward and cover the next person’s order. In Pennsylvania this week, this happened 160 times.

So, you drive up to the window and the chirpy little attendant informs you that the last car "paid it forward" and bought your coffee. He/she/they/them/gif/jif then ask if you'd like to "keep it going" by paying for the car behind you.

You then feel pressured and guilted into participating in this Ponzi scheme, thus contributing to the degradation of all that is holy in our society.

Let's be clear: The spirit behind "pay it forward" is commie drivel. It's a "we're all in this together, so let's be a community and share the burden equally" kind of experiment which – far from altruism – displays the worst possible kind of selfish, preening bullying under the guise of charity.

Don't fool yourself. Nobody actually benefits from this drive-thru performance art. At the end of the day, the last person in line will get something free and never actually thank or acknowledge those who made their good fortune possible.


Bottom line: If you want to help your fellow man, give alms and charity or volunteer your time for the truly less fortunate. You're not going to make the world a better place by buying a latte for the NPR listening lady in the EV BMW behind you.

'Pay It Forward' Is for Commies

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[SamSpade]

I only take issue with the cashier asking if you want to "keep it going". I do things like that, but not because I want to usher in some great period of shared altruism. It's just nice to do, and it's nice to be the recipient. I don't smile or wave at people or help them pick up dropped items because I have some great vision of society. I do it because it's right, and it makes people feel better. And it warms my heart to see that my children do it too, not out of a sense of guilt, but possibly because they've seen me do it.

There's a story about an unnamed person who left behind a suicide not saying they wouldn't go through with it if a single person smiled at them. Presumably, Nietzsche stopped his own suicide, because of a stranger's smile. A kind word or gesture has incredible power. Maybe you won't save someone's life, but I'll bet anything that at least one kind thing you've done has never, ever been forgotten by someone.

 

[BOP]

My big pet peeve is when retail stores ask you, especially via the card reader, if you want to donate to some charity or another as a part of the checkout/payment process.

I wish there was a function that allowed me to input "Hell no. Between my giving to charity and tipping people who provide me service, I give 10% of my income away already."

Examples: a $10.79 bowl of chili, a side of fries, and a bowl of apple sauce yesterday cost me $15.79 because $5.00 is a minimum tip for me these days. A haircut (senior) that was $18.00 cost me $23.00 for the same reason.

Every year I give thousands to charities of my choice, including Solomons Volunteer Rescue, and a couple of others that benefit military veterans AND their families.

I resent being hit up for money when I'm paying already inflated prices for basic goods, since it's always "for the children." Like everything else out there "for the children," how much of that money actually benefits the flesh and blood children, and not the charities themselves? Kind of like the lotteries you can find in every state, somewhere close to zero would be my guess.

 

[BOP]

I only take issue with the cashier asking if you want to "keep it going". I do things like that, but not because I want to usher in some great period of shared altruism. It's just nice to do, and it's nice to be the recipient. I don't smile or wave at people or help them pick up dropped items because I have some great vision of society. I do it because it's right, and it makes people feel better. And it warms my heart to see that my children do it too, not out of a sense of guilt, but possibly because they've seen me do it.

There's a story about an unnamed person who left behind a suicide not saying they wouldn't go through with it if a single person smiled at them. Presumably, Nietzsche stopped his own suicide, because of a stranger's smile. A kind word or gesture has incredible power. Maybe you won't save someone's life, but I'll bet anything that at least one kind thing you've done has never, ever been forgotten by someone.

You're a good man, Charlie Brown.

 

[vraiblonde]

I only take issue with the cashier asking if you want to "keep it going". I do things like that, but not because I want to usher in some great period of shared altruism. It's just nice to do, and it's nice to be the recipient. I don't smile or wave at people or help them pick up dropped items because I have some great vision of society. I do it because it's right, and it makes people feel better. And it warms my heart to see that my children do it too, not out of a sense of guilt, but possibly because they've seen me do it.

There's a story about an unnamed person who left behind a suicide not saying they wouldn't go through with it if a single person smiled at them. Presumably, Nietzsche stopped his own suicide, because of a stranger's smile. A kind word or gesture has incredible power. Maybe you won't save someone's life, but I'll bet anything that at least one kind thing you've done has never, ever been forgotten by someone.

THANK YOU!

Good grief, I am so tired of nasty malcontents bitching and griping about kindness and good deeds. And they are ALWAYS liberal Democrats! ALWAYS!

I do agree that the cashier trying to guilt customers into "paying it forward" completely misses the whole point and the only correct response is, "No, but I'll happily throw this 32oz fountain drink in your face."

 

[SamSpade]

I don’t know where you’d find it elsewhere but during the Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) each year they publish a huge list and one of the items they show is how much is spent on overhead. Salaries and administration.

I usually made it a fun exercise to find which was the worst offender. Many had overhead well over half.

 

[itsbob]

Here's a straightforward (if not touchy-feely liberal utopian) description of the trend from five years ago:



So, you drive up to the window and the chirpy little attendant informs you that the last car "paid it forward" and bought your coffee. He/she/they/them/gif/jif then ask if you'd like to "keep it going" by paying for the car behind you.

You then feel pressured and guilted into participating in this Ponzi scheme, thus contributing to the degradation of all that is holy in our society.

Let's be clear: The spirit behind "pay it forward" is commie drivel. It's a "we're all in this together, so let's be a community and share the burden equally" kind of experiment which – far from altruism – displays the worst possible kind of selfish, preening bullying under the guise of charity.

Don't fool yourself. Nobody actually benefits from this drive-thru performance art. At the end of the day, the last person in line will get something free and never actually thank or acknowledge those who made their good fortune possible.


Bottom line: If you want to help your fellow man, give alms and charity or volunteer your time for the truly less fortunate. You're not going to make the world a better place by buying a latte for the NPR listening lady in the EV BMW behind you.

'Pay It Forward' Is for Commies

townhall.com

Remember how it ends in the movie.. the initiator gets stabbed to death!

 

[Sneakers]

This is really a bastardization of the pay-it-forward concept anyway. In it's original form, you have a need and someone reacts and provides a help or service. Rather than take a reward, the helper says 'pay it forward', meaning if you come across someone in need, be a good guy. Pre-paying someone's coffee is not paying it forward.

 

[vraiblonde]

This is really a bastardization of the pay-it-forward concept anyway. In it's original form, you have a need and someone reacts and provides a help or service. Rather than take a reward, the helper says 'pay it forward', meaning if you come across someone in need, be a good guy. Pre-paying someone's coffee is not paying it forward.

A true pay it forward would be if the guy in front of you left his wallet at home and couldn't pay for his coffee, so you pay it for him. Then instead of him paying you back, he treats the next time he sees someone who's short. So it's kind of the same thing, but as you said not really.

 

[jrt_ms1995]

... "No, but I'll happily throw this 32oz fountain drink in your face."

But only if refills are free!

 

[Kyle]

I don’t know where you’d find it elsewhere but during the Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) each year they publish a huge list and one of the items they show is how much is spent on overhead. Salaries and administration.

I usually made it a fun exercise to find which was the worst offender. Many had overhead well over half.

After the corruption/misappropriation uncovered in Red Cross and United Way several decades ago, they were scratched from my list forever.

I have no evidence to confirm this but always felt local charities were more trustworthy.

 

[Sneakers]

After the corruption/misappropriation uncovered in Red Cross and United Way several decades ago, they were scratched from my list forever.

I have no evidence to confirm this but always felt local charities were more trustworthy.

I did the same with Wounded Warrior. I supported them, went to functions.... then it was revealed how much graft there was, and how little the vets actually received.

 

[itsbob]

After the corruption/misappropriation uncovered in Red Cross and United Way several decades ago, they were scratched from my list forever.

I have no evidence to confirm this but always felt local charities were more trustworthy.

If I remember correctly most of the accusations about the Red Cross were unfounded.. at the time Elizabeth Dole ran the Red Cross, and like Trump, they would destroy anything and anybody if it could stop Bob Dole..

 

[vraiblonde]

I have no evidence to confirm this but always felt local charities were more trustworthy.

The further it gets from home, the more graft and corruption there will be because there's no oversight. That goes for politics as well as charities.

 

[itsbob]

The further it gets from home, the more graft and corruption there will be because there's no oversight. That goes for politics as well as charities.

I love giving money to Hospice (local and .. National) it takes a special kind of person to do that work, and the support staff behind them can't be minimal. They're paid, and volunteer, but I understand that insurance coverage is never an issue.. if you need them they are there.

 

[itsbob]

For local charities to donate to, Check out NAABC.. they are amazing, and truly deliver an outstanding product.

 

[Clem72]

Here's a straightforward (if not touchy-feely liberal utopian) description of the trend from five years ago:



So, you drive up to the window and the chirpy little attendant informs you that the last car "paid it forward" and bought your coffee. He/she/they/them/gif/jif then ask if you'd like to "keep it going" by paying for the car behind you.

You then feel pressured and guilted into participating in this Ponzi scheme, thus contributing to the degradation of all that is holy in our society.

Sounds like a good scheme to me. Drive up and order a small black coffee, ask what the person behind you got, if it's small pay for it. Get back in line and order a nice meal and wait for someone in front of you to "pay it back". Then drive off breaking the chain. Not even karmically bad because you already paid it forward, right?

 

[rio]

This is really a bastardization of the pay-it-forward concept anyway. In it's original form, you have a need and someone reacts and provides a help or service. Rather than take a reward, the helper says 'pay it forward', meaning if you come across someone in need, be a good guy. Pre-paying someone's coffee is not paying it forward.

A few years ago my daughter went to get her textbooks at CSM. She had cash with her to pay for them (she was responsible for getting her own books), and was going to rent them because it saves a lot of money. Well, come to find, they only rent them if you use a credit card, which she didn't have at the time. She called me to see if I'd put them on the card and she Pau me back. I was fine with that, but since I couldn't be there in person they wouldn't take my card. Daughter is talking to the clerk trying to figure out what to do when a lady who was in the next line said " just put her books on my card". Not to rent, to buy. Daughter told her it wasn't necessary, she could give cash, was just trying to save some money. The lady told her to keep her cash for the next set of books and have a good day, then left. We never knew this woman and daughter never saw her again, but daughter was in tears over the kindness of this lady. She has since donated the books to other people who can use them, and donated a portion of her textbook money to a cause dear to her.That to me is the real meaning of paying it forward.