Pedophiles are just the average guy,it seems

mAlice

mAlice

professional daydreamer
gretchen said:
And the definition of a pedophile is someone attracted to children. Period. And an 18 year old flat chested actress in pigtails is impersonating a child to gratify men who want that image. Of a child. I'm right. You're wrong. Sorry.
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slam dunk, in my opinion.
 
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Homeland

New Member
gretchen said:
So in my situation,I'm imagining it and being sensitive because no one checks out your granddaughter but when when RoseRed described a similar scenario you didn't accuse her of the same? And a pedophile is defined as a man who is only into prepubescent girls? Not in my book. Pre means before. So once a girl begins,is in,or ends puberty she's fair game and the guy isn't a pedophile? Girls mature physically earlier than ever nowadays - so a man who rapes a 12 year old isn't a pedophile in your book because hypothetically she started puberty years before? And yes,that porn is legal. Do you seriously base your concepts of right and wrong on what is or isn't legal? You have a very simple mind if this is the case.
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A man who rapes a 12 year old is a rapist, not necessarily a pedophile. Pedophilia is a medical diagnosis. Don't blame me for your poor education. I would say that Rose' situation is not similar. You are describing three men in a very short time having some sort of sexual desire for your daughter. That is why I ASKED if you are likely a tad bit over sensitive. Just as you asked a question, but now seem offended by mine.

I do base some of my beliefs of right and wrong on the law. For instance, I think it is abhorrently wrong to abort a child, but it is legal. You came in here using inflamatory language about men who view legal pornography. You made the statement that because they might view this pornography that somehow equates to them being pedophiles. When called out on this, you backed off and whined that you were merely asking a question. I call b.s.
 
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Homeland

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gretchen said:
And the definition of a pedophile is someone attracted to children. Period. And an 18 year old flat chested actress in pigtails is impersonating a child to gratify men who want that image. Of a child. I'm right. You're wrong. Sorry.
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Since I haven't seen these movies, and you claimed not to have seen these movies but just the title, I don't know what the adult actresses look like. Why are you making these assumptions?
 
mAlice

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Homeland said:
You made the statement that because they might view this pornography that somehow equates to them being pedophiles.
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It can't be proven either way. Look at it from this view point. If I caught my husband watching porn that had young women who looked too young to even know what sex is, there's a damn good chance I'd dump him, legal or not. First, you have no way of knowing how old the young women are. They might well be under 18. Runaways lie, and trafficked human beings have no choice. Keep shouting. I can't hear you.
 
mAlice

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Homeland said:
Since I haven't seen these movies, and you claimed not to have seen these movies but just the title, I don't know what the adult actresses look like. Why are you making these assumptions?
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No you're just being naive.
 
gretchen

gretchen

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Homeland said:
A man who rapes a 12 year old is a rapist, not necessarily a pedophile. Pedophilia is a medical diagnosis. Don't blame me for your poor education. I would say that Rose' situation is not similar. You are describing three men in a very short time having some sort of sexual desire for your daughter. That is why I ASKED if you are likely a tad bit over sensitive. Just as you asked a question, but now seem offended by mine.

I do base some of my beliefs of right and wrong on the law. For instance, I think it is abhorrently wrong to abort a child, but it is legal. You came in here using inflamatory language about men who view legal pornography. You made the statement that because they might view this pornography that somehow equates to them being pedophiles. When called out on this, you backed off and whined that you were merely asking a question. I call b.s.
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I've not backed down or whined a bit. It's cute how you use terms such as "medical diagnosis" to seem smarter than you are,but it's just trite. You have a granddaughter. Let's hope you never get put in a position where you can be objective about an adult mans interest in her. I doubt you'd play semantics then.
 
RoseRed

RoseRed

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Homeland said:
How is the statement "pedophiles are just the average guy, it seems" not an accusation? She then goes on to talk about viewers of legal pornography. Are you really suggesting that her intent wasn't to accuse anyone who views the sort of pornography to be something which they may not be? A pedophile as pointed out is a person who has an interest in pre-pubescent children.

I wasn't in Giant when these men supposedly looked at her daughter, but I have a grandaughter which I am with quite often. I'm very protective of her and she is fourteen years old. I think I would notice if men were ogling her. I wonder if the op may be a bit too sensitive?
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Because she phrased it as a question and asked for others opinions on the subject. I don't believe that all people that watch porn are pedophiles. But I can tell you this; when I was 10 years old, my friend, my 8 y/o sister and I were approached by a man asking for directions. He asked us to write them down and tried to pass a porn magazine that was featuring little girls. We ran away.
 
sockgirl77

sockgirl77

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It's very easy to read this thread and see who has watched porn and who has not. These movies that are on PPV are not hardcore. They have young actresses because that is what MOST men are into, newer models. They look young, but they do not look like children. Very few of them have flat chests, as most men are not attracted to flat-chested women. And yes, the schoolgirl fantasy is that of so many men. Do they want to bang a child? No. But, they like the schoolgirl attire with tits busting our of the buttons.

Socki knows porn. Shocker, I know.
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
After reading all the way from beginning to end, I have nothing to offer to the discussion....but do have a sudden urge to go surf some porn.

Laters.
 
gretchen

gretchen

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sockgirl77 said:
It's very easy to read this thread and see who has watched porn and who has not. These movies that are on PPV are not hardcore. They have young actresses because that is what MOST men are into, newer models. They look young, but they do not look like children. Very few of them have flat chests, as most men are not attracted to flat-chested women. And yes, the schoolgirl fantasy is that of so many men. Do they want to bang a child? No. But, they like the schoolgirl attire with tits busting our of the buttons.

Socki knows porn. Shocker, I know.
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Or see that we've all seen porn in some capacity and some are pretending not to have.
 
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BernieP

Resident PIA
Homeland said:
How is the statement "pedophiles are just the average guy, it seems" not an accusation? She then goes on to talk about viewers of legal pornography. Are you really suggesting that her intent wasn't to accuse anyone who views the sort of pornography to be something which they may not be? A pedophile as pointed out is a person who has an interest in pre-pubescent children.

I wasn't in Giant when these men supposedly looked at her daughter, but I have a grandaughter which I am with quite often. I'm very protective of her and she is fourteen years old. I think I would notice if men were ogling her. I wonder if the op may be a bit too sensitive?
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Do I know it exists? Yes, but thanks to the OP I now know the titles - I'd never actually bothered to surf the menu. So I was a bt put off by the question of are all men just pedohiles are pedophiles just the average guy. I would also like to inform Vria that the reason most of those titles were about females, it's probably hard to get an 18 year old male to look 12. But based on what you hear/see in the news it would appear that there are plenty of pedophiles that are attracted to boys - they just have to trade their junk in a different market.

I am also gong to avoid shopping at Giant. I would not want to be accused of staring at her child - I mean when I shop I search the aisle and also try to keep an eye on where people are just so I don't run them over. How does one know if they are staring at a person or simply looking beyond them or in that general direction?

If I had to generalize, I'd say the OP has a predjudice against men. There is no denying that preverts exist, but the presumption of the OP was the vast majority of men were perverts.
 
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