Persecution, trials, and our walk

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Every Christian is subject to temptation. Christians should expect to be tempted. After all, satan and his minions don't have to try to get those that don't believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord; satan already has them. So satan and his workers can concentrate their efforts on believers. God always gives us a way out.
1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.
Look for the way out. It may be as simple as saying, "No." It may require reading your Bible. It may require hitting the floor with your knees to seek Him and His way. It may require calling or going to be with other Christians. It may require all of those things. Quitting a sin, especially one that is an old habit, requires a life change.

God wants our best all the time, right? Right?

Sometimes, no.

God cannot heal us or turn us from sin if we refuse to bring it to Him. We go to church in our finest clothes with our best act on. We have it all together; no sin here. Until we drop that pretense and the act, we are holding on to the garbage in our life. Hiding it. Keeping it for ourselves. He wants us to bring our garbage to Him so He can toss it out. We have to give Him our garbage; He won't take it from us. We have to bring it to His feet and give it to Him. He is faithful and true to toss away as far as east is from west. Once we get that garbage out of that closet, we can look for the next closet the needs cleaned.

God bless us all. God is our Father and He is the garbage collector and He is the garbage incinerator. Aren't you glad? I am.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
After all, satan and his minions don't have to try to get those that don't believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord; satan already has them. So satan and his workers can concentrate their efforts on believers. God always gives us a way out.

so you really belive that their is a red man with a pointy tail and a pitchfork who is constantly plotting against you, and who is the root of all evil?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
so you really belive that their is a red man with a pointy tail and a pitchfork who is constantly plotting against you, and who is the root of all evil?
That is not the way satan is described in the Bible. Yes, I do believe the Bible and the Bible says satan and demons are real. One of the greatest lies satan has ever perpetrated on man is to get people to believe that satan is not real.
 

forever jewel

Green Eyed Lady
2ndAmendment said:
That is not the way satan is described in the Bible. Yes, I do believe the Bible and the Bible says satan and demons are real. One of the greatest lies satan has ever perpetrated on man is to get people to believe that satan is not real.

I agree with you. :huggy:
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
That is not the way satan is described in the Bible. Yes, I do believe the Bible and the Bible says satan and demons are real. One of the greatest lies satan has ever perpetrated on man is to get people to believe that satan is not real.
wow, i mean, i thouhgt that even in most religious circles satan was considered a metaphor for temptation, not a real entity.
So then, if you believe in satan and demons, then you also believe in demonic posession?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Midnightrider said:
wow, i mean, i thouhgt that even in most religious circles satan was considered a metaphor for temptation, not a real entity.
So then, if you believe in satan and demons, then you also believe in demonic posession?
I believe the Bible. Jesus cast out demons.
Matthew 8:28-34

28When He came to the other side into the country of the Gadarenes, two men who were demon-possessed met Him as they were coming out of the tombs. They were so extremely violent that no one could pass by that way.

29And they cried out, saying, "What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?"

30Now there was a herd of many swine feeding at a distance from them.

31The demons began to entreat Him, saying, "If You are going to cast us out, send us into the herd of swine."

32And He said to them, "Go!" And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.

33The herdsmen ran away, and went to the city and reported everything, including what had happened to the demoniacs.

34And behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus; and when they saw Him, they implored Him to leave their region.
Since Jesus believes in demons, why wouldn't I?
 

TexasPride77

Eat More Beef, Less Chkn
Demon or Dark Angel?

Midnightrider said:
wow, i mean, i thouhgt that even in most religious circles satan was considered a metaphor for temptation, not a real entity.
So then, if you believe in satan and demons, then you also believe in demonic posession?

It is my understanding that in the religion of Christianity, demons and Satan are real entities. Look at the temptation trials of Christ. God allowed Satan to attempt to tempt Christ purposefully. Scripture goes into detail with the trials.


Here is something to think about/discuss as well... If Satan was once an angel, is he technically considered a demon or a dark angel? In scripture I do not recall him being referred to as a demon.


2A - great reference to the swine.... U da Man! Care to cast light on what I mentioned above?
 

Pete

Repete
Midnightrider said:
so you really belive that their is a red man with a pointy tail and a pitchfork who is constantly plotting against you, and who is the root of all evil?
No silly, thats the guy who makes deviled ham spread In the can wrapped in paper.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
2ndAmendment said:
I believe the Bible. Jesus cast out demons. Since Jesus believes in demons, why wouldn't I?
alright, i see the bible uses the word demon, but it doesn't mean that they are real, or that they are any more than a metaphor
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
TexasPride77 said:
It is my understanding that in the religion of Christianity, demons and Satan are real entities. Look at the temptation trials of Christ. God allowed Satan to attempt to tempt Christ purposefully. Scripture goes into detail with the trials.


Here is something to think about/discuss as well... If Satan was once an angel, is he technically considered a demon or a dark angel? In scripture I do not recall him being referred to as a demon.


2A - great reference to the swine.... U da Man! Care to cast light on what I mentioned above?
I don't think I have ever read in the Bible a definition of a demon. Satan is an angel, archangel or seraphim, it is not clear. He forgot he was a creation and tried to rise above God.

Demons are obviously real as are the rebellious angels that followed satan. What demons are, I don't know except to know they do evil and can possess people and cause them to do evil.
 
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