Police Car at Carwash

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
You continue to show your ignorance...thanks.

1) I dont know a bigger intersection in the county.

2) To handle that intersection would take probably 4 people. That leaves few to handle all the other calls pending......which may be more important.

3) Blaming SHA was just a sarcastic comment...you missed the point.

4) Keeping you from being aggrivated in your car is not the job of police or sha. If you can't handle a light outage I think you have more issues.

Have you ever tried to direct traffic at in intersection that big??? ... I did'nt think so. Got to love those Monday morning quaterbacks..
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1 - Rt4 and Rt235 handles more volume. With the exception of the signalized right turn lanes leaving the base, Pegg Rd and Rt235 is just a standard, 4-cycle intersection like Rt4 and Rt235 (but with far less volume).

2 - If it takes 4 people to handle that intersection then we're good to go since there were 5 officers working it that morning.
 

Choklatjunkeee

New Member
If you are soooo concerned about your tax dollars, GO WASH THE POLICE OFFICER'S CAR YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!! You are so ungrateful. You have NO clue what these men and women have sacrificed to protect us as we sleep, work, play,etc! I bet you'd be the type of person who'd complain if you called for help and the police officer showed up with a dirty car, wouldn't you?!
Don't forget she is a self proclaimed daydreamer that resides in Wonderland. What can you expect? This is not me putting her in her place, as she inquired. I just don't have any interest in arguing with idiots.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Don't forget she is a self proclaimed daydreamer that resides in Wonderland. What can you expect? This is not me putting her in her place, as she inquired. I just don't have any interest in arguing with idiots.

You have your idiots confused.
 

somdwhiner

New Member
I just think it's funny most of this is coming from people that have "meetings" for lunch on Fridays, go to Solomons and drink to get a start on the weekend and have the rest of the day off paid, they are able to "work from home" and still get paid without using vacation leave, get a "59" and still get paid, off the day before holidays and get paid, go on "travel" and get paid per diem, stay in a high class hotel somewhere, get paid for their gas for a week and actually work one of those days getting paid. Those class, are called "perks" and they are at the expensive of the taxpayers.
It doesn't matter if the cop was on-duty or off-duty period and shouldn't even have been a topic of discussion. They do not get free car washes unless one place agreed to give it to them for their use. I don't know how many pages went on about rambling over this nor do I care to search.
As for the traffic light out, this is pretty simple. The main road (235) had yellow flashing lights and the light on Pegg Rd. was red meaning 235 had right of way and others have to stop, look then go. The mentality of people here most likely could not understand this simple concept and would most likely cause an accident. The police are not going to do an all hands on deck because a light was out. What would be more simple, take less bodies, and let traffic flow? Shutting down gate 1 and having people detour 2 miles down the road onto gate 2, leaving more bodies on the road available for calls. Again, this shouldn't even been a topic. If you think you could do a better job, then by all means, put yourself in their shoes and you'll soon realize that having 6 cops in the middle of the road "trying" to coordinate with impatient people rushing to work because they set their snooze button too many times is not as easy as one might think. 30% of the drivers won't have a clue as what to do, will turn even though a cop is there instructing them to stop, and the list goes on. They think they did that and it "inconvenients" them, oh well. Now say there's an alert tone, shoots fired, or some other call. Shouldn't there be other untis available to handle that call or having all the southend cops handling traffic been a greater issue? If the department had 400 cops like Charles County, it probably wouldn't be an issue but it isn't like that here believe it or not.
Have a great day!!!
 
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luckystar

Guest
I just think it's funny most of this is coming from people that have "meetings" for lunch on Fridays, go to Solomons and drink to get a start on the weekend and have the rest of the day off paid, they are able to "work from home" and still get paid without using vacation leave, get a "59" and still get paid, off the day before holidays and get paid, go on "travel" and get paid per diem, stay in a high class hotel somewhere, get paid for their gas for a week and actually work one of those days getting paid. Those class, are called "perks" and they are at the expensive of the taxpayers.
Whut? Are you referring to CWS?
 
... Those class, are called "perks" and they are at the expensive of the taxpayers.

... They think they did that and it "inconvenients" them, oh well. Now say there's an alert tone, shoots fired, or some other call. Shouldn't there be other untis available to handle that call or having all the southend cops handling traffic been a greater issue?
Thanks for weighing in Tigg. :howdy:
 

somdwhiner

New Member
Not referring to CWS, they earn that. I'm meaning non-CWS fridays of having a "luncheon" at 11pm, then having the rest of the day off.
Thanks grammar police for correcting my grammar and spelling, you're doing a great job:) You get a gold star for the day.
 

sommpd

New Member
I use gate-3 but here's a suggestion...

St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office Standard Operating Procedure

Chapter 1, Page 1

1 - How to maintain normal traffic flow at Pegg Rd and Rt 235 in the event of a signal light malfunction
You fell short. You did not explain how you would safely effect traffic control, in the dark, in and intersection with eight travel lanes. What would your plan be?

See you first stated it was a good-old-boy system, and then when you couldn't back that up started complaining about traffic. Here is your opportunity, if you really care about the problem offer a solution.
 

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
You fell short. You did not explain how you would safely effect traffic control, in the dark, in and intersection with eight travel lanes. What would your plan be?

See you first stated it was a good-old-boy system, and then when you couldn't back that up started complaining about traffic. Here is your opportunity, if you really care about the problem offer a solution.
1 – We would need to write up the traffic control strategy on a white board. Can’t do it over the Internet. At any rate, as often as the signal at Gate-1 malfunctions, the Sheriff’s Office should already have it as part of their SOP. That light was out back on 18 August. See link below…

http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/149091-traffic-light-out-pax-gate-1-a.html

2 – I’ve been to all 50 states and it wasn’t till I moved here that I saw all the cars with the “thin blue line” decals on the back. Make whatever excuse you want about those decals but unless a person was born yesterday, we all know why they’re there. G.O.B.

If you wanna continue this discussion, PM me. It’s rude for folks to have one-on-one discussions on a public forum.
 

sommpd

New Member
1 - That intersection is not that complex and can be handled better.
Explain how it could be handled better, and safely as well. Remember, these traffic lights went out in the thick of darkness, so Officers would be directing traffic with eight lanes of North bound and south bound traffic.

2 - Simply shutting down the left turn lane takes bedlam from one point and moves it somewhere else (like further down the road).
Not if drivers cooperate and move to gates two and three.


3 - Blame the SHA. When things go bad, it's always about finding someone else to blame. "If we didn't cause the problem, then we don't have to solve it." Typical government mentality. It's the same from the local level right up to Capitol Hill.
No, that is stating fact. The fact is, SHA is responsible for the lights. The police did fix the problem, but because you were inconvenienced you don't like the way they preformed their duties.

4 - It's not about me. It's about all of us. Agencies like SHA and police are there to serve us. Not the other way around
Since you were going onto the base, I would say that we are all public servants and you as well as the police should keep that in mind. Your inconvenience is little price to pay to ensure someone else’s safety.
 

bad1032

New Member
A little info on the lights, Most of the time when the LIGHTS go out or malfunction, SHA has to respond from Hanover or Baltimore to reset them, Thats why it takes so long. They are the ones who hold the keys to the control box.
 

sommpd

New Member
1 – We would need to write up the traffic control strategy on a white board. Can’t do it over the Internet. At any rate, as often as the signal at Gate-1 malfunctions, the Sheriff’s Office should already have it as part of their SOP. That light was out back on 18 August. See link below…

http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/149091-traffic-light-out-pax-gate-1-a.html

2 – I’ve been to all 50 states and it wasn’t till I moved here that I saw all the cars with the “thin blue line” decals on the back. Make whatever excuse you want about those decals but unless a person was born yesterday, we all know why they’re there. G.O.B.

If you wanna continue this discussion, PM me. It’s rude for folks to have one-on-one discussions on a public forum.

What exactly does the thin blue line sticker mean? I googled it and this was the first web site that came up. Police Stickers

Now I believe that is a Loudon County Virginia Department, right near Fairfax where you said you were from. If you are implying that people with thin blue line stickers get a break, well you are incorrect. Anybody can get a thin blue line sticker! Here are some more sites.

Law Enforcement - Decals - Law Enforcement

Thin Blue Line Police Hostage Crisis Negotiation Negotiators Crime Safety Workplace Violence Criminal Justice - Home

Now I would suggest you go to this site, and really learn what that symbol means. To you it means something negative, to me it is a symbol to honor those who have serve their communities!

Fraternal Blue Line: Home

Our mission is simple - we want all Law Enforcement Officers to be honored for their service to a grateful nation. We strive to ensure that every great American, who served their country and community in the Law Enforcement profession be remembered and respected publicly.

The Thin Blue Line is the internationally recognized phrase that symbolizes our profession. The blue line represents each of us who daily protect this nation. The black background was designed as a constant reminder of our fallen brother and sister officers.

By displaying the Eternal Blue Line Memorial Flag® a symbol of Duty, Honor and Country, you are showing your love and respect for the brave men and women of law enforcement. It is this public respect which will help to enrich future generations.
So much for it just being in Southern Maryland. You really don't research your stuff very well.
 

donbarzini

Well-Known Member
What are you talking about Barney?


You wouldnt understand Ernest T ... nuff said
Please don't call him that. That's my pet name for him. And you definitely don't want him to think you're me. He will try to make your
life miserable.
 

sommpd

New Member
Please don't call him that. That's my pet name for him. And you definitely don't want him to think you're me. He will try to make your
life miserable.
So you call all cops who disagree with you that huh donstupini? Or are you just to dumb to realize that the person who was called that was not me?
 

Jeff

Stop Staring!!!!!
I don't know if I am going to get myself into trouble for asking this, but today at about 5:30pm I was at the Chesaldine car wash (the robot one) and there was a police car in front of me with two officers inside it in uniform getting a wash. They got the $10 wash (with the RainX). With the current economic problems and tighter budgets etc. should they be getting $10 washes at tax payer expense??? I just always assumed they washed their own vehicles at the station/garage. Am I wrong?
Next this you see this. Jump out of your car. Run up to the machine and put 10 bucks in for them in it before they get a chance to.

Turn around smile and say thank you and head back to your car.
 

Tigerlily

Luvin Life !!!
Wow, This turned out to be quite a thread. When I read the first post my initial thought was "Who Care's?" at least they are cleaning their vehicle. My second thought was that maybe the county has a deal with that establishment to provide the service via a contract. When I moved here twenty years ago I worked at the cleaner's in Lexington Park and the county, state and park services police all had there uniforms cleaned there and it was a contract.

Then I thought that possibly the officer(s) at the car wash maybe provided some surveillance of the business on their off time and this was the bene that they got for it. I also worked for a 7-11 that supplied free coffee to state and county officer's. The owner wrote it off I'm sure but what a benefit to him to give up a few cups of coffee a day and have the benefit of the presense of law enforcement in his establishment. That is really free security.

I also know that a few apartment complexes in this area used to provide a free or greatly reduced rental unit to an officer that would agree to keep an eye out on the neighborhood. At least this was as of ten years ago.

I also have no issue with any law officer using their unit to go to the grocery store, the movies, Lowe's or to dinner at any local establishment. I could also care less who they may have with them. The bottom line is that seeing the cruiser on the road or in the parking lot is a deterrent to crime. In essense it gives most folks a check up.

If you are speeding and you see a police car I am sure you slow down. Now if you were to see that the officer was in regular clothes, would you speed back up and blow by them? I think not.

I have also seen a person who was driving like a fool pulled over by an off duty officer. They may not have gotten a ticket but I am sure they got a talking to.

My last point is that no one is getting rich in the line of law enforcement. These folks have a lot to deal with every day and when we need them, they do their best to be there as quick as they can. I also feel bad when I see them directing traffic as I am sure that is a chore that none of us would like to have.
 
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