Politics of Covid 19 Vaccines

GURPS

INGSOC
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Tucker Carlson Torches Biden's Mask 'Ultimatum'


"Well, it’s not a request, it's a demand, and the president of the United States does not get to tell me or any other American citizen what to wear.," Carlson said. "He's not offering a choice. He's laying down an ultimatum. He's saying if you don't get vaccinated, you must wear a mask. Again, that's not within his powers to demand."

The Fox News host also questioned the logic behind the push to vaccinate everyone despite the fact that those who are vaccinated should be protected, IF the vaccines work as advertised.

Well, I’m just confused by the reaction because it’s not rational and, you know, I don’t want to accuse anyone else of having mental illness or emotional problems but these people are not thinking as scientists think. So you can’t simultaneously say that the vaccine is very effective and by the way, I see no reason to doubt that claim. It seems very effective - and, yet, at the same time say that once you have been vaccinated you are very concerned that you might be infected by people around you who are not wearing masks. That leaves a couple questions unanswered. The first that’s never asked, which is how exactly do we know that masks are very effective in preventing the transmission of Covid-19. I don’t think that we do know that and if we do, I would love to see the study that shows that. But more to the point, if you've been vaccinated, why are you concerned that you’re going to be infected by someone who is not wearing a mask? It doesn’t make any sense. You clearly don’t think the vaccine works if you're worried about that.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Feminist Jill Filipovic Demands Vaccine Passports, QR Codes


“Vaccine passports (or QR codes) now! If you don’t want to get vaccinated, that’s your right. But it’s not your right to go to a concert, bar, restaurant, or large event,” she tweeted to her 156.6k followers.

“Should there be health exceptions? Yes! Should there be religious exceptions? No! Sorry, believe what you want, don’t get vaxxed if you don’t want to, but you are not actually entitled to see Celine Dion live,” she added.

Fillipovic was responding to a tweet from Julian Sanchez that said, “We could have secure, smartphone scannable immunization credentials instead of handwritten cards inside of a few weeks if the administration decided to push it.”
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

Well this is interesting. Though many may think this site is far alt, it does do some good explaining at times.


And take a look at the link in the site to Connecticut's Pre-vaccination Checklist for COVID-19 Vaccines, and the waiver of liability statement that a receiver must sign, along with the list of ingredients. Did everyone see something like this before they got their shot?

Pre-vaccination Checklist for COVID-19 Vaccines
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
It was bad enough with the Government trying to scare everyone about the pandemic that was no worse than the flu, now they are trying to scare everyone who got the shot. Give me a freaking break and just grow some balls.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
World Governments Plan for COVID Booster Shots Next Winter


One of the big unanswered questions about the coronavirus is whether or not those who have received a full dose of the COVID vaccine will need a “booster shot” or not.

It’s a critical question because most of the world has yet to be vaccinated and a supply crunch may be on the way. If we all need a booster shot after about a year, that will only add to our supply woes.

The only way to know if we’ll need the booster is through the passage of time. No one knows how long the antibodies generated in the body by the COVID vaccine will be effective. Researchers are carefully following individuals who took part in the Stage 3 studies of vaccine efficacy to determine their further immunity.

There is also the question of the effectiveness of current vaccines against the numerous variants that are popping up all over the world. While there’s no doubt that the vaccines offer some protection against all the variants, a booster shot may prove to be necessary to strengthen the body’s immune response to being exposed.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
White House Advisor Says Getting COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Makes Us All More Attractive’ As Biden Admin Teams With Dating Apps



On Friday, the White House announced that it has partnered with several major dating apps to encourage people seeking companionship to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

The Washington Post reported, “Nine dating sites have teamed up with the Biden administration to add features that will let users show they’ve gotten their shots.”

Andy Slavitt, the White House senior advisor on the nation’s coronavirus response, told reporters on Friday that the effort is intended to target younger Americans. He added, “these sites cater to over 50 million people in the U.S. and are some of the world’s biggest non-gaming apps.”

As demand for the vaccine slows, promotional campaigns are expected to launch on the apps in the coming weeks to help meet President Joe Biden’s goal to inoculate 70% of U.S. adults with at least one COVID-19 shot by July 4.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The People’s Republic of Oregon Imposes First Vaccine Passports and Conscripts Businesses and Churches to do its Spying


It has come to this. Oregon health officials have approved the rollout of vaccine passports, requiring houses of worship, employers, and businesses to check the vaccine records of adherents, employees, or customers in exchange for being able to take off their masks indoors.

That’s right: in order to gain freedom from masks indoors, Oregonians must show their papers to show they’ve complied with state’s unique and oppressive plan to get more people vaccinated. Presumably, people unwilling to show their papers will be reported. Businesses and other entities under the new rules will be “investigated” if they’re found breaking the rules.





The Washington Examiner reports the Oregon Occupational Safety and Hazard Administration (OSHA) and other state agencies will enforce all of the new guidance. OSHA spokesman, Aaron Corvin, explained that employers brushing off the diktat also would be investigated.


We expect employers to comply, whichever route they take – allowing the vaccination exemption or sticking with current requirements. We will take and investigate complaints alleging employers aren’t requiring face coverings for example or checking vaccination status.
No governmental entity requires vaccine passports. But this reflexive authoritarian response coincides with Oregon Democrats’ desire to be first in the race to total tyranny. The new rules were announced even though Oregon’s new COVID caseload dropped by more than half in the last week, so they seem an upside-down response to the facts on the ground.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The COVID Vaccine: The Facts



All this points out a simple (conceptually) problem. We simply do not have good information on which to make many decisions about vaccination. So we have to try to be rational based on what little information we do have. The two poles of the question are simple. If you are young and healthy, your risk from COVID is miniscule. If you are old and infirm, your risk is up to 400 times higher. What’s a mother to do?

If you’re a grandmother who is a bit fluffy and takes meds for two or three significant medical problems, your risk from the vaccine is a whole lot smaller than your risk from the bug. It’s a no-brainer. Take the shot. If you’re young and healthy, your risk from the vaccine is unknown, but your risk from the virus is miniscule. Again, a no-brainer. Skip the shot. And, by the way, even making this rational choice doesn’t guarantee a particular outcome. After all, life is what happens while we’re making other plans.

The problem lies in between the clear situations. Until we have actual information, we simply do not have the ability to make a fully informed choice. And governmental agents who insist that you must have the shot are simply being power-mad dictators. They don’t have good information, either.

It’s time to return power to the people. “My body, my choice” should be shouted from the rooftops.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Papers Please: Oregon to Require Proof of Vaccination Before Going Maskless in These Establishments


When the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced vaccinated individuals no longer need to wear masks indoors, with some exceptions, many on the left weren’t happy because they felt the unvaccinated would cheat—hence the push for vaccine passports. In Oregon, that has now become a reality.

The Oregon Health Authority is now requiring that individuals seeking to enter businesses, religious sites, or workplaces maskless show proof of their vaccination status.

“Businesses, employers and faith institutions now have the option to adjust their masking guidance to allow fully vaccinated individuals to no longer wear a mask in their establishments,” the updated policy reads. “Businesses, employers and faith institutions doing so must have a policy in place to check the vaccination status of all individuals before they enter their establishment.”

If such policies are not created, the state’s masking guidance must still be followed, regardless of a person’s vaccination status.
Nathaniel Brown, a spokesperson for Oregon Business and Industry, told the New York Times that they “have serious concerns about the practicality of requiring business owners and workers to be the enforcer.”
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
many on the left weren’t happy because they felt the unvaccinated would cheat
I thought this would happen too, but not only are the unvaccinated still masking, but so are many of the vaccinated. Passports simply aren't needed.
 
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