Politics of Covid 19 Vaccines

GURPS

INGSOC
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More Proof Biden's Attacks on Trump's Vaccine Distribution Plan Are Based on Lies





The data also proves that attacks from the Biden administration are unfounded. According to a graph generated by Newsy, vaccine production and distribution under Biden hasn’t accelerated, but rather followed the same trajectory as it was under Trump.

Joe Biden’s Department of Defense also doesn’t dispute that the distribution plan is the same as it was under Trump. In fact, General Gus Perna, who led the effort under Trump, is still there in the same capacity.

“Centralized distribution is being managed by the CDC through an existing contract… to deliver vaccines and supply kits… We continue the mission to accelerate the development, manufacturing and delivery of safe and effective vaccines and therapeutics, and Gen. Perna continues in his role overseeing this effort,” Perna’s spokeswoman Laura Ochoa told Newsy.

So, Joe Biden, who said he wants to unify the country, rather than give Preside
 

Hijinx

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They don't want to give credit to Trump for anything.
He got us the vaccine and he was delivering it, Like he delivered on most of his promises.

The main one he should have delivered on was the one where he was going to Jail Hillary.
Of course the reason was that he didn't want to makes us look like a third world country by going after his opposition
Biden and the Democrats do not seem to be returning the favor.
They are going after Trump every day.

That is the proof of the fact that it isn't Unity they want.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Former Top Coronavirus Task Force Official Blasts Biden: We’d Have To ‘Slow Down’ To Meet His Goal


“It seems that @Twitter is censoring my tweets because I am calling out the continuing lies on @60Minutes that Trump had no vaccine plan,” Giroir responded on Twitter. “Fact is, current supply and ramp up are 99% due to Trump’s #OperationWarpSpeed, including the pharmacy and #healthcenter roll-outs.”

“And ‘Trump’s mess and non-existent’ vaccine plan had already achieved a rate of #COVIDVaccination to achieve #Biden goal of 100 million doss in 100 days when Biden inaugurated,” Giroir continued. “I[n] fact, #OperationWarpSpeed would have had to slow down to meet that new goal!”

Giroir’s remarks are factually accurate according to Bloomberg News, which reported in January that the Trump administration had gone over a million shots a day by the end of his administration.

Giroir also slammed the administration over kids not being in back to school for in-person learning, warning that it would cause long-term damage to children’s health.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
CDC to announce Americans with COVID vaccine can gather indoors without masks: report



The CDC will announce new guidelines as soon as this Thursday on what fully vaccinated Americans can do, including allowing for small gatherings indoors with other vaccinated individuals, Politico reports.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Biden's chief medical adviser, previewed the roadmap back to somewhat normal life Monday.

"I use the example of a daughter coming in from out of town who is doubly vaccinated, and a husband and wife doubly vaccinated, and maybe a next door neighbor, who you know are doubly vaccinated," Dr. Fauci said at a White House COVID-19 Task Force press conference Monday.


"Small gatherings in the home of people, I think you can clearly feel that the risk, the relative risk, is so low that you would not have to wear a mask, that you could have a good social gathering within the home."
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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CDC Issues New Guidance for Vaccinated People



Those who have been fully vaccinated can gather indoors with other fully-vaccinated people without wearing a face mask, and vaccinated people can also gather indoors with unvaccinated people from one other household without wearing masks unless anyone in the other household is high-risk for severe illness from the coronavirus, according to the CDC.

The CDC cautioned that even vaccinated people should continue to take precautions in public places like wearing a mask, staying six feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces. In settings that involve more than two households gathering together, the CDC recommended vaccinated people taking more precautions as well, such as wearing a mask and physically distancing. Both domestic and international travel should still be delayed, the agency added.

If a vaccinated person is exposed to the coronavirus, they do not need to quarantine or get tested unless they develop symptoms. If the person lives in a group setting like a correctional facility, however, the CDC recommended that they should still quarantine for two weeks and and get tested if they are exposed, even if they do not have symptoms.

An individual is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the second shot of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines or two weeks after receiving the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which is a single shot.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
They don't want to give credit to Trump for anything.
He got us the vaccine and he was delivering it, Like he delivered on most of his promises.

The main one he should have delivered on was the one where he was going to Jail Hillary.
Of course the reason was that he didn't want to makes us look like a third world country by going after his opposition
Biden and the Democrats do not seem to be returning the favor.
They are going after Trump every day.

That is the proof of the fact that it isn't Unity they want.



HAHA. Trump did more to turn us into a banana republic with a thug for a leader than any past president.

No wonder he was a one term failure.
 
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Gilligan

#*! boat!
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HAHA. Trump did more to turns us into a banana republic with a thug for a leader than any past president.

No wonder he was a one term failure.
Sniffen Joe has already said "Hold My Ensure and Watch This....".. He's on a destruction roll.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Vaccines Should Signal A Return To Normal, But Blue States And Bureaucrats Are Ensuring That Doesn’t Happen

While the media lambasted Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for disregarding federal guidelines in order to prioritize vaccinating his state’s vulnerable elderly, doubtless saving many lives, blue states were embroiled in their own rollout disasters. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the same man whose nursing home policy contributed to the deaths of nearly 10,000 residents, instituted confusing rules and eligibility requirements that left precious doses of the drug thrown away, spoiled amid the failure. Under Cuomo, who is now embroiled in two separate scandals, prisoners were permitted to jump the vaccine line ahead of vulnerable populations.

Of the top four most successful states in the early days of vaccine rollout and administration, three were red: North Dakota, West Virginia, and South Dakota. Now North Dakota’s mask mandate has expired and West Virginia has lifted its capacity limits on restaurants and other businesses. These types of actions instill confidence in a vaccine and move Americans toward normalcy — but they’re few and far between and confined mostly to red states.
Meanwhile, California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s vaccine failures, which mirrored New York’s, have added fuel to the fire of his opponents’ recall efforts. Consider that while nearly 13 percent of the West Virginia population has received both doses of a two-dose vaccine, only 8.5 percent of Californians have been so fortunate.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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‘COVID Passports’ Are Coming. Here’s How They Are Already Being Used Across The World


As COVID-19 vaccines continue to roll out all across the nation, many government officials are now reportedly considering some form of COVID “passport,” which would allow people to escape restrictions on travel or work.

New York is already issuing an “Excelsior Pass” to residents which would provide proof of a COVID vaccination or a current negative test while attending public events. The European Union plans to roll out a “Digital Green Pass” for work and travel between nations. Israel has begun implementing a “green pass” for its vaccinated citizens to enter gyms, restaurants, and public venues.

Here’s a breakdown of some of the major so-called “COVID passports” being considered or already in use, and the potential implications they would have on all of us.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Vaccine Nationalism 'Shaming' Is Worse than 'Mask Shaming'

The Compassion Brigades and international do-gooders have begun to point fingers at Western countries like the U.S. and accuse them of not caring about billions of vulnerable poor people who might sicken and die without being vaccinated. That is, indeed, a tragedy. But what is it they want from the U.S. and other nations that have been struggling to vaccinate their own citizens?

New York Times:
Tens of millions of doses of the coronavirus vaccine made by the British-Swedish company AstraZeneca are sitting idly in American manufacturing facilities, awaiting results from its U.S. clinical trial while countries that have authorized its use beg for access.
The fate of those doses of AstraZeneca’s vaccine is the subject of an intense debate among White House and federal health officials, with some arguing the administration should let them go abroad where they are desperately needed while others are not ready to relinquish them, according to senior administration officials.
Europe has suspended the distribution of the AstraZeneca vaccine because of possible problems with blood clots. So we should send a lethal drug overseas?
The company is now grappling with another safety scare. Acting out of precaution, health authorities in Denmark, Norway and Iceland suspended use of the AstraZeneca’s vaccine on Thursday after several reports across the continent of severe blood clots.
European official and the company said there was not evidence of any causal link. In the vast majority of cases, the emergence of such medical conditions has nothing to do with the vaccine. Some percentage of people are expected to fall ill by chance after getting vaccinated, as would happen in any group of people.

This is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Many EU countries may be willing to part with some doses but the slowdown in AstraZeneca production has thrown the entire system into chaos. And the U.S. needs those doses to ensure that our own population is vaccinated first.
“If we have a surplus, we’re going to share it with the rest of the world,” President Biden told reporters on Wednesday, speaking generally about the U.S. vaccine supply. “We’re going to start off making sure Americans are taken care of first.”
 

Hijinx

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Let them do the testing. If they want an untested drug , give it to them, as is.
How did we get tens of millions of this untested British-Swedish drug in the first place?
And what did we spend for this untested drug?
 

Hijinx

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We have tens of millions of doses of a British-Swedish drug that hasn't been tested?

Did Biden pull and Hogan and buy an untested worthless drug?
 

herb749

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Vaccine Nationalism 'Shaming' Is Worse than 'Mask Shaming'

The Compassion Brigades and international do-gooders have begun to point fingers at Western countries like the U.S. and accuse them of not caring about billions of vulnerable poor people who might sicken and die without being vaccinated. That is, indeed, a tragedy. But what is it they want from the U.S. and other nations that have been struggling to vaccinate their own citizens?

New York Times:

Europe has suspended the distribution of the AstraZeneca vaccine because of possible problems with blood clots. So we should send a lethal drug overseas?


This is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Many EU countries may be willing to part with some doses but the slowdown in AstraZeneca production has thrown the entire system into chaos. And the U.S. needs those doses to ensure that our own population is vaccinated first.
“If we have a surplus, we’re going to share it with the rest of the world,” President Biden told reporters on Wednesday, speaking generally about the U.S. vaccine supply. “We’re going to start off making sure Americans are taken care of first.”


When Trump wanted to make sure Americans were taken care of 1st the media called him names. Now Biden says the same and nothing.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I saw earlier where the Biden administration is giving millions of vaccine doses to Mexico and Canada. Too bad for them it is the AstraZeneca version that hasn't been approved for use in the USA.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Ron DeSantis Shoots Down the Idea of Vaccine Passports and His Reasoning Is Pitch Perfect

This perspective is precisely correct. A primary role of government is to prevent your rights from being infringed. This obligation includes protecting freedom of association and movement. It may be near religion in some right-wing circles to say that private businesses can do whatever they want. This is simply not the case. When a private company seeks to interfere with your inalienable rights, it is incumbent on the government to step in. DeSantis and the Florida legislature have already protected businesses from COVID-19 liability in legislation signed today:

“We don’t want to be in a situation where people are scared of being sued, just for doing normal things,” DeSantis said. “And so, we worked very early on to look at to see ways that we could provide some certainty for both businesses, and healthcare providers. This was obviously a top priority for many of us up here. And I think that the legislature has been able to deliver today.”

On what planet should businesses with this protection be able to deny entrance without proof of vaccination? It is up to individuals to engage in activities they feel are safe using rational decision-making based on their vaccination status, risk, or recovered status.


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Do you think a bank should be able to deny you a loan if you buy a car with a gas engine? Do you believe an insurance company should be able to deny coverage to a gun manufacturer engaged in a legal industry? Should a bank be able to require you to install solar panels on the home you would like to buy? All this and more is coming under ESG—environmental, social, and government—standards. You may be familiar with Operation Chokepoint, created under the Obama Justice Department. Global collaboration on ESG criteria from the world’s leading financial institutions via the World Economic Forum is the next iteration. Merrill Lynch is already assigning customers an ESG score.

It is a social credit score by another name being implemented by private businesses. Government intervention is the only way it will stop. Global governments in liberal democracies are standing aside while private companies seek to interfere with your fundamental rights in a way the government simply cannot. And unless we demand that our government protect those rights, they will vanish. DeSantis should be lauded and emulated on this front.

 
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This_person

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Blacks have been used in experiments recently in our countries history and therefore are wary of government medical efforts.
It is outstanding that at least some people are wary of government medical efforts. We ALL should be.

That said, it's not just black people who have been used in experiments by the government. Have you ever heard of James Ketchum? How about Edward Cohn? How about Plutonium Testing? How about the Mustard Gas experiments that were primarily aimed at using white test subjects (but some people of Asian descent just in case)? How about Edward Nevin and Operation Sea Spray? How about the Willowbrook Experiments? How about the Measles Vaccine Experiment, where the CDC killed who-knows-how many people while secretly testing a vaccine by offering it for free to folks?

Are you so naive that you think there's a zero percent probability that this is all a test in and of itself?

Why in the world would ANYONE not be very wary of government medical efforts?
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

People are dying worldwide due to these deadly “Covid” injections, the side effects have been horrendous, and sickness has been rampant due to these shots. Now they are coming after your children. What sane parent would allow their children to be used as experimental rats by this evil and corrupt government and its partners in murder? What kind of parent would allow their newborn or infant child to go through virulent exploratory testing by giant corporate whores? What parent would allow the use of aborted fetal cell lines into their own child? These are not parents; they are uncaring predators!

I care not that any consenting adult decides voluntarily to agree to these fake ‘vaccine’ experiments, regardless of the consequences, because that is their choice, and stupidity is no crime. But leave the children alone.
 
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the poor dad
Vaccine passports will be the new legal discrimination. Will I still have to bake the gay/trans cake for you if you don't have the vaccine? What if you are black without the vaccine?
 

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