Post Birth Abortion Becomes Acceptable

[black dog]

If you want to discriminate against blacks, gays, latinos, the handicap or any other group because of the way they are born feel free to do so and you can be the test case in Maryland

How do I discriminate against a middle aged white guy that's not religious?
Is that the white privilege I keep hearing about?

 

[This_person]

I'm glad you appreciate my vocabulary but I said no such thing. I said a business person contracts with the government to follow the rules and regulations set for by that government when applying for a business license I also said the business owner tacitly agree to to not discriminate since the government wants it citizens treated equally.

You tried to equate that to a mother and father tacitly agreeing to raise a child based on one night of sex and I disagreed.

The reason those scholars you talked about chose the timing at which a fetus becomes individual is usually based on what I am now going to tell you for the hundredth time is that without the mother the child would still survive after 21 weeks. Which just happens to coincide with when they wave their magic wand as you say. If you were so interested in science as you keep claiming you would understand that is when a fetus becomes a separate entity because it no longer 100% dependent on its mother by physical connection for its needs

I can link you to the science showing that is not the definition of a separate entity. Johnson v Florida said nothing about 21 weeks. The Peterson case in California said nothing about 21 weeks.

Can you provide me with the scientific publication that you get your opinion from?

 

[This_person]

How do I discriminate against a middle aged white guy that's not religious?
Is that the white privilege I keep hearing about?

That's impossible. No matter what you do to a middle-aged white guy it's legal.

 

[Sapidus]

I can link you to the science showing that is not the definition of a separate entity. Johnson v Florida said nothing about 21 weeks. The Peterson case in California said nothing about 21 weeks.

Can you provide me with the scientific publication that you get your opinion from?

It is. It an opinion. It is a fact that after 21 weeks most fetuses will be viable outside the womb and can live on their own. On their own. On their own. Independent and no longer attached to the mother. How many times do you need that repeated for you.

 

[black dog]

It is. It an opinion. It is a fact that after 21 weeks most fetuses will be viable outside the womb and can live on their own. On their own. On their own. Independent and no longer attached to the mother. How many times do you need that repeated for you.

He's waiting and fishing for you to waver or slip up....

 

[This_person]

It is. It an opinion. It is a fact that after 21 weeks most fetuses will be viable outside the womb and can live on their own. On their own. On their own. Independent and no longer attached to the mother. How many times do you need that repeated for you.

I would greatly appreciate you never repeating that, but it has nothing to do with the question. Where is the scientific publication that says the definition of a separate entity is that it can be sustained outside the womb?

 

[This_person]

He's waiting and fishing for you to waver or slip up....

He slips up by merely speaking. There IS NOT a single publication that will scientifically define a separate human life as "once it can be artificially removed from the mother and be able to survive on machines." It doesn't exist. It's not a "thing".

The baby is a separate human from the moment it implants itself into the lining of the uterus. Pretty much everything after that is a separate human life. The 21 week thing is a ball of smoke, with no meaning whatsoever.

He can flip and flop and pretend to have some sort of knowledge, but it's all subjective crap. Life does not begin at conception or birth, but at implantation.

 

[Sapidus]

He slips up by merely speaking. There IS NOT a single publication that will scientifically define a separate human life as "once it can be artificially removed from the mother and be able to survive on machines." It doesn't exist. It's not a "thing".

The baby is a separate human from the moment it implants itself into the lining of the uterus. Pretty much everything after that is a separate human life. The 21 week thing is a ball of smoke, with no meaning whatsoever.

He can flip and flop and pretend to have some sort of knowledge, but it's all subjective crap. Life does not begin at conception or birth, but at implantation.

Sure. Get 10 people in a room and if they all agree with that I will accept "your" definition of when "life" begins.

What about ectopic pregnancies? Those must not be life since they don't implant in the uterus and cant grow to viability?

 

[black dog]

He slips up by merely speaking. There IS NOT a single publication that will scientifically define a separate human life as "once it can be artificially removed from the mother and be able to survive on machines." It doesn't exist. It's not a "thing".

The baby is a separate human from the moment it implants itself into the lining of the uterus. Pretty much everything after that is a separate human life. The 21 week thing is a ball of smoke, with no meaning whatsoever.

He can flip and flop and pretend to have some sort of knowledge, but it's all subjective crap. Life does not begin at conception or birth, but at implantation.

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[Sapidus]

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[This_person]

Sure. Get 10 people in a room and if they all agree with that I will accept "your" definition of when "life" begins.

Well, first, I wasn't talking about taking a poll. I told you I was using the scientific definition that has been the main one for a rather long time.

Second, I was talking about when the woman is considered "pregnant". The timing is generally from the last menstrual cycle, but that's not when the woman is actually pregnant. When she's pregnant, it's not with a puppy, or a hairy pimple, it's with a person.



Try again. Do you have a scientific basis for when a pregnancy changes from hairy pimple to separate human being? I do; what is yours?

 

[This_person]

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Absolutely. He keeps saying inaccurate things, trying to kill his dead horse over and again. He needs to come up with some accurate information and change up his normal MO

 

[Sapidus]

Well, first, I wasn't talking about taking a poll. I told you I was using the scientific definition that has been the main one for a rather long time.

Second, I was talking about when the woman is considered "pregnant". The timing is generally from the last menstrual cycle, but that's not when the woman is actually pregnant. When she's pregnant, it's not with a puppy, or a hairy pimple, it's with a person.

Well now you changed your definition.

we can both agree that is when you become pregnant however you are wrong in your belief that that is when a separate individual is created because for the 10 millionth time the pregnancy created does not create wholly formed individually able to live on its own, It is still connected and wholly dependent on the host. I'm going to just copy and paste that phrase from now on since you conveniently skip over it in your reading every time or you would understand that concept after having explained to you 5 hundred times.

 

[This_person]

Well now you changed your definition.

Nope, not one iota.

however you are wrong in your belief that that is when a separate individual is created

It's not a "belief". It's a scientific fact.

because for the 10 millionth time the pregnancy created does not create wholly formed individually able to live on its own,

Please provide the scientific publication that says a woman is pregnant with something other than a separate human prior to week 21.

 

[This_person]

however you are wrong in your belief that that is when a separate individual is created

Try reading this.

 

[This_person]

Try reading this.

Sap, did you read and learn?

 

[Lurk]

Sap, did you read and learn?

There were a awful lot of two and three syllable words in that tome. Give the bottom feeder time.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

If you want to discriminate against blacks, gays, latinos, the handicap or any other group because of the way they are born feel free to do so and you can be the test case in Maryland

So you are taking out of your ass! You have nothing. Just because you say it, does not make it so.

 

[This_person]

Sap? Where'd you go? Facts and knowledge just kill your "point"?

 

[GURPS]

..... you are wrong in your belief that that is when a separate individual is created because for the 10 millionth time the pregnancy created does not create wholly formed individually able to live on its own ....

does not matter - is the DNA distinct and separate from the mother ?
then the individual is unique



since is about to start growing Humans in plastic bags aka artificial uterus's then what