Proudly Gay and Ordained?

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
2ndAmendment said:
I know that K_Jo and Chasey are doing this just to cause discord. It will not matter in the least what I reply, because they have no understanding of spiritual matters or they would not be posting what they do. So to you two, I say bye.
How can you make a statement like that? To me, religion is a personal thing, so you wouldn't know anything about my understanding of spiritual matters. You just think I'm wrong because I don't agree with you.

Oh, and
Go Chasey! :banana: Go Chasey! :banana: Go Chasey! :banana:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
2ndAmendment said:
Oh, I forgot, and only on this earth in this lifetime. At the end of your life, whether you believe or not, you will be righteously judged and receive your due reward; eternal life in heaven or eternal torment in hell. Choose wisely.

Not necessarily so.. there are two unforgivable sins.. Murdering another and suicide. You will be given the opportunity to repent for your sins prior to "eternal torment", being that God is humane, compassionate and forgiving, he knows we are weak and apt to sin.

Some believe there are different levels of heaven, again difference of religion.. depending on how you lived your life will determine what level of glory you will attain for eternity. Only those that refuse to accept christ and repent AFTER death will be sent to hell (and the aforementioned murderers and suicides)
 
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dems4me

Guest
2ndAmendment said:
I know that K_Jo and Chasey are doing this just to cause discord. It will not matter in the least what I reply, because they have no understanding of spiritual matters or they would not be posting what they do. So to you two, I say bye.


Hey 2A, not to rehash any debates from yesterday but I thought you might get a kick out of this... this morning I was driving in to work and was thinking about our discussion on here, as I'm open minded and tenderhearted and thinking about everything said yesterday.... than when in doubt, I use my WWJD anaylsis... I said yep!!! Jesus would of spent all day on the computer at somd.com forums debatting back and forth :killingme: Have a good day :smooch:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
itsbob said:
Not necessarily so.. there are two unforgivable sins.. Murdering another and suicide. You will be given the opportunity to repent for your sins prior to "eternal torment", being that God is humane, compassionate and forgiving, he knows we are weak and apt to sin.

Some believe there are different levels of heaven, again difference of religion.. depending on how you lived your life will determine what level of glory you will attain for eternity. Only those that refuse to accept christ and repent AFTER death will be sent to hell (and the aforementioned murderers and suicides)
Wrong! According to the Bible the only sin that is unforgivable is blashphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 12:30-32




The Unpardonable Sin

<sup id="en-NASB-23520">30</sup>"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. <sup id="en-NASB-23521">31</sup>"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.

<sup id="en-NASB-23522">32</sup>"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
dems4me said:
Hey 2A, not to rehash any debates from yesterday but I thought you might get a kick out of this... this morning I was driving in to work and was thinking about our discussion on here, as I'm open minded and tenderhearted and thinking about everything said yesterday.... than when in doubt, I use my WWJD anaylsis... I said yep!!! Jesus would of spent all day on the computer at somd.com forums debatting back and forth :killingme: Have a good day :smooch:
Wolf.

Matthew 7:13-23

The Narrow and Wide Gates

<sup id="en-NASB-23330">13</sup>"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. <sup id="en-NASB-23331">14</sup>"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

A Tree and Its Fruit

<sup id="en-NASB-23332">15</sup>"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. <sup id="en-NASB-23333">16</sup>"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

<sup id="en-NASB-23334">17</sup>"So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

<sup id="en-NASB-23335">18</sup>"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

<sup id="en-NASB-23336">19</sup>"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

<sup id="en-NASB-23337">20</sup>"So then, you will know them by their fruits.

<sup id="en-NASB-23338">21</sup>"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

<sup id="en-NASB-23339">22</sup>"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

<sup id="en-NASB-23340">23</sup>"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
 
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dems4me

Guest
2ndAmendment said:
Wrong! According to the Bible the only sin that is unforgivable is blashphemy against the Holy Spirit.


:yeahthat:


THat is the ONLY unforgivable sin.


2A, don't waste your time on this today. Its a nice day outside - sometimes folks just like to egg each other on. :huggy:
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
KCM said:
I would actually find that pretty insulting.
I think her getting upset about it would depend on who says it. But it's still not nice. It might be a sin.
 
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dems4me

Guest
KCM said:
I would actually find that pretty insulting.



Actually I've been called worse - :roflmao:


In answer to your statement - yes, but I know I'm not really anything like that so... whatever... :lol:

baaaaahhhh, baaaaaaahhhh, hooooowwwl, hoooowwwwllll, baaaaaahhhh... :lol: After alll this has soo much to do with the topic at hand... :roflmao:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
dems4me said:
:yeahthat:


THat is the ONLY unforgivable sin.


2A, don't waste your time on this today. Its a nice day outside - sometimes folks just like to egg each other on. :huggy:
I think you're wrong, but I can't cite verse.. but if I recall correctly, the Catholic Church especially belivieves that if you take your own life you are going straight to hell, no repentance, no forgiveness, not chance to accept christ, it's automatic eternal damnation.. I would say that equates to an unforgivable sin..
 
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dems4me

Guest
K_Jo said:
I think her getting upset about it would depend on who says it. But it's still not nice. It might be a sin.

no... doesn't matter who says it... it depends on moodswings... :roflmao:





j/k - yes, you are correct, I know 2A is joking and its not like he looks up every post of mine to say something derogatory every chance he gets just to have the entire forum laugh at me and thereby making the offender seam better than... you know the adage - tear someone down to raise yourself up... that sort of thing. 2A is not like that at all, this is as far as he gets in demeaning someone or being derogatory. :smooch:
 
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dems4me

Guest
itsbob said:
I think you're wrong, but I can't cite verse.. but if I recall correctly, the Catholic Church especially belivieves that if you take your own life you are going straight to hell, no repentance, no forgiveness, not chance to accept christ, it's automatic eternal damnation.. I would say that equates to an unforgivable sin..


How do you know that person isn't accepting Christ in his last dying breath? You don't know that. Their is one way to get to heavan according to the Bible and denying Christ is the only ONE way not to go to heavan. How do you know that the person that is in pain and hurting so badly isn't repenting or speaking with the Lord in his last breath of life? You don't know...
 

trisha

New Member
itsbob said:
there are two unforgivable sins.. Murdering another and suicide. You will be given the opportunity to repent for your sins prior to "eternal torment", Only those that refuse to accept christ and repent AFTER death will be sent to hell (and the aforementioned murderers and suicides)

Then, Does this mean that God's love and/or power is limited?
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
dems4me said:
How do you know that person isn't accepting Christ in his last dying breath? You don't know that. Their is one way to get to heavan according to the Bible and denying Christ is the only ONE way not to go to heavan. How do you know that the person that is in pain and hurting so badly isn't repenting or speaking with the Lord in his last breath of life? You don't know...
Dems, to make a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong story short, we don't know and the only time we're truly going to find out is when our "time" comes. :peace:
 

KCM

Right Where I Belong
Chasey_Lane said:
Dems, to make a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong story short, we don't know and the only time we're truly going to find out is when our "time" comes. :peace:
Exactly. The only one that is to judge each and every one of us is God above. The rest is speculation.
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
I think what really matters here is we all finally agree that gay clergy should be accepted by Christians. :huggy:
 
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