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Beaver-Cleaver

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sockgirl77 said:
Right now you're speaking to a parent of a child that has excelled with that program. A child who was nearly deaf for 2 and a half years. A child who without that program would not have gotten the help he needed. So PLEASE ANDY tell me just how pointless the program is. PLEASE.
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Check your Messenger - I'm not putting all this out on a public forum.
 
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This_person said:
What are your issues with the program?

Or, do you have issues with the way local school districts implement the program?

These are two very different ideas, and I am not sure you can tell the difference.
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Both. Statistically, it's effective.

Realistically, there are better ways... I'm not a genius and I can't tell you what the best way forward is. I've had ideas of my own but I'd have no way of knowing if they'd be effective.

Truthful answer is the most effective policies would probably be the most controversial and probably wouldn't even be heard in the halls of the United States Congress.
 
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And I know if I put out my ideas, I'd be called "communist" and "socialist" and "extremist" among other things.
 
StrawberryGal

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sockgirl77 said:
Right now you're speaking to a parent of a child that has excelled with that program. A child who was nearly deaf for 2 and a half years. A child who without that program would not have gotten the help he needed. So PLEASE ANDY tell me just how pointless the program is. PLEASE.
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Whatever you do, do not send him to Maryland School for the Deaf. If you need help, you know I'll help you.
 
This_person

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Beaver-Cleaver said:
Both. Statistically, it's effective.
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Your problem with it is that it's effective?
Realistically, there are better ways... I'm not a genius and I can't tell you what the best way forward is. I've had ideas of my own but I'd have no way of knowing if they'd be effective.

Truthful answer is the most effective policies would probably be the most controversial and probably wouldn't even be heard in the halls of the United States Congress.
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Oh, you believe there may be a better way? You're probably right about that.

Is this a better way than the nothing that was happening before? I suspect that it is - and you verified that idea by saying it's effective.

:shrug:
 
sockgirl77

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StrawberryGal said:
Whatever you do, do not send him to Maryland School for the Deaf. If you need help, you know I'll help you.
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He's not deaf anymore. He got the tubes in his ears over a year ago that released the fluid backup. 2 weeks ago he passed his hearing test for the first time ever. :yahoo: Right now it's just getting him all the speech therapy that I can.
 
StrawberryGal

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sockgirl77 said:
He's not deaf anymore. He got the tubes in his ears over a year ago that released the fluid backup. 2 weeks ago he passed his hearing test for the first time ever. :yahoo: Right now it's just getting him all the speech therapy that I can.
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That's a GREAT news! :cartwheel: I wish my hearing is that simple fix, but it is not. :frown:
 
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Beaver-Cleaver

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This_person said:
Your problem with it is that it's effective?Oh, you believe there may be a better way? You're probably right about that.

Is this a better way than the nothing that was happening before? I suspect that it is - and you verified that idea by saying it's effective.

:shrug:
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It's not effective enough damnit.
 
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go check my mail for the latest NEA talking points memo and go drink my NEA/MSTA kool-aid. :drama:
 
This_person

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Beaver-Cleaver said:
I say No Child Left Behind is pointless.
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Beaver-Cleaver said:
It's not effective enough damnit.
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It's "pointless", "effective", but "not effective enough"?

Pick a point of view, please.

If it's better than what was(n't) there before, it's obviously not pointless. If it is not effective enough, that means it's good, but could use improvement. If there are good ideas for improvement, the local school boards can certainly implement those better ideas.
 
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smibarines

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This_person said:
It's "pointless", "effective", but "not effective enough"?

Pick a point of view, please.

If it's better than what was(n't) there before, it's obviously not pointless. If it is not effective enough, that means it's good, but could use improvement. If there are good ideas for improvement, the local school boards can certainly implement those better ideas.
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Actually, they can not. They must teach the tests and if they don't, their funding disappears. They are not free to make changes as needed.
 
This_person

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smibarines said:
Actually, they can not. They must teach the tests and if they don't, their funding disappears. They are not free to make changes as needed.
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So, they have the option of teaching to a set of common standards so that a school in Lexington Park is comparable to a school in Frostburg, or, they can set their own standards and pay for them.

Sounds like they have a choice to me.

If the problem you see is that the federal government is involved in schools, using Colorado's tax dollars for California's schools - well, then we agree 100%. However, it seems most people's problem is that teachers are held accountable based upon the results of their efforts.
 
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