Question??

CowGirlUp · Mar 22, 2005

I currently have male 10 month puppy - We are getting ready to get a female from the same litter as our current male. We haven't had our male neutered yet - If the two were to have puppies together eventually.... What are the chances of there puppies to have deformities?

I always thought dogs were capable of imbreeding unlike humans. How do animals know other wise in the wild if they were to breed with a 'sister or brother'?

RoseRed · Mar 22, 2005

Just make sure they don't fall through the cracks in the floor.

sleuth · Mar 22, 2005

CowGirlUp said:
I currently have male 10 month puppy - We are getting ready to get a female from the same litter as our current male. We haven't had our male neutered yet - If the two were to have puppies together eventually.... What are the chances of there puppies to have deformities?

I always thought dogs were capable of imbreeding unlike humans. How do animals know other wise in the wild if they were to breed with a 'sister or brother'?

I was under the impression that it is generally safe to breed a female pup to her father, but breeding siblings was bad news. :shrug: Appy would probably know.

pvineswinger · Mar 22, 2005

If you don't know what you are doing- please don't breed dogs. Back yard breeders are :boo:

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CowGirlUp · Mar 22, 2005

pvineswinger said:
If you don't know what you are doing- please don't breed dogs. Back yard breeders are .

I am not trying to breed on purpose nor am I a 'backyard breeder'. I was just curious as to what the statistics were on this - guess I will seek my information else where.

cattitude · Mar 22, 2005

CowGirlUp said:
I am not trying to breed on purpose nor am I a 'backyard breeder'. I was just curious as to what the statistics were on this - guess I will seek my information else where.

No, you don't breed siblings. Nor do you breed a father and daughter.

kwillia · Mar 22, 2005

I just did a quick search on the net and from what I'm seeing, breeding sister to brother is the quickest way to find out what recessive problems are in the family line. This is because the odds are very high that a bad gene from the male will match up to a bad gene from the female. You could end up with a litter of flickeded dogs... :dork:

sleuth · Mar 22, 2005

cattitude said:
No, you don't breed siblings. Nor do you breed a father and daughter.

That's weird. I used to know a guy who bred champion AKC (i think) beagles, and he swore up and down that fathers and daughters, as well as mothers and sons could be bred safely and often beneficially, but you could only go one generation.

Of course, this was 15 years ago. Maybe there's been new information published or maybe he was just an idiot.

cattitude · Mar 22, 2005

We've had this conversation before. I'll look for it.

kwillia · Mar 22, 2005

sleuth said:
That's weird. I used to know a guy who bred champion AKC (i think) beagles, and he swore up and down that fathers and daughters, as well as mothers and sons could be bred safely and often beneficially, but you could only go one generation.

Of course, this was 15 years ago. Maybe there's been new information published or maybe he was just an idiot.

From what I read... that should ONLY EVER be considered if the breeder knows the entire gene history and has ALREADY ruled out bad recessive genes. This is not the case for CowGirlUp.

crabcake · Mar 22, 2005

semi-

but I was in Bob Green Siding this weekend, and they have a most unique dalmation there -- it's traditional white with black spots, but there was a ring of grey around the black spots that added "depth" to the dog's coat. He was soooo cool looking! :yay:

Okay, resume incestual dog breeding discussion now. :snacks:

gigglestick · Mar 22, 2005

Bad news to let that happen. If ya want to breed, get a female pup from a differnt mom and pop :yay:

crabcake · Mar 22, 2005

pvineswinger said:
If you don't know what you are doing- please don't breed dogs. Back yard breeders are .

Leave it to the pro's who know what they are doing when it comes to breeding. There are already sooooo many puppies/dogs that need homes. Don't add to the animal population unless you are qualified to do so. :ohwell:

cattitude · Mar 22, 2005

http://forums.somd.com/showthread.php?t=23277&highlight=linebreeding

dems4me · Mar 22, 2005

cattitude said:
No, you don't breed siblings. Nor do you breed a father and daughter.

that is just messed up :jet:

I can't believe this was a serious question... :jet:

sleuth · Mar 22, 2005

I was experiencing a little deja vu. :lol:

crabcake · Mar 22, 2005

sleuth said:
I was experiencing a little deja vu.

I hope to hell it's cuz you'd read that other inbreeding thread and not for some other reason. :twitch:

sleuth · Mar 22, 2005

crabcake said:
I hope to hell it's cuz you'd read that other inbreeding thread and not for some other reason.

pvineswinger · Mar 23, 2005

CowGirlUp said:
I am not trying to breed on purpose nor am I a 'backyard breeder'. I was just curious as to what the statistics were on this - guess I will seek my information else where.

If you are not a registered and trained breeder- you are a backyard breeder.
You said if they were to have puppies together "eventually" -which sounds like there are some plans in the works. If there are no plans, get them fixed.

pixiegirl · Mar 23, 2005

pvineswinger said:
If you are not a registered and trained breeder- you are a backyard breeder.
You said if they were to have puppies together "eventually" -which sounds like there are some plans in the works. If there are no plans, get them fixed.

It's much healtier for the pups as well.

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