Questions about Vegas shooter

SamSpade

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IN Ann Coulter's latest column, she vigorously disputes that anyone can make a substantial living playing video poker.
I actually know a guy who DID do that for a while - until they started changing the way it is done, made better software and the tax laws changed.
Then he came back to work where I do.

But - Ann is right. You really DON'T make a living playing poker. You can enjoy it, and if you're good at it, you can play for a while.
In the long run, you will always lose money.

She hints at a few ideas which I thought over --

What if Paddock was a patsy?

She asks these questions and poses a strange scenario -

"[FONT=&quot]Why would Paddock unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else's room [/FONT]beforebeginning his massacre?

How can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the alleged shooter checked into the hotel?

Why was Paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide?

Have any other solitary mass shooters ever had girlfriends?

If Paddock wasn't making money on video poker -- and he wasn't -- why would he be cycling millions of dollars through a casino, turning every dollar into, at best, 99 cents? "

Then she poses this:

"[FONT=&quot]If this were a movie script, a terrorist would go to Paddock's room on the pretense of buying guns, kill Paddock, commit the massacre, put his gunshot residue-covered gloves on Paddock's dead hands and slip out of the room when the coast was clear. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]According to the all-new timeline given by the Las Vegas police -- pending a third revision -- this is at least possible. The hallway was empty, except for a bleeding security guard down by the elevators, for at least two minutes after the shooting stopped. The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves. "

I'd add another one : Why would he have SO MANY GUNS in a hotel at a less than ideal shooting location?
Because he sold GUNS for a living. THAT'S why. That is why he had so much money. He made money selling them.[/FONT]
 

SamSpade

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It might explain the dead security guard BEFORE the shooting. If you're in your room full of guns, you don't walk into the hallway and turn an otherwise uninvolved security guard into paste --

But you might if you were ARRIVING to the room - and armed.

It may well be that:

He was selling guns -
He used casinos to launder money -
The hotel doesn't want this known to the public.
 

vraiblonde

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He was selling guns -
He used casinos to launder money -
The hotel doesn't want this known to the public.
I'll go for this before I believe that he's some lone nut. But I don't believe Oswald acted alone, either. At least Oswald showed signs to his friends and family, and had a suspicious background. Supposedly this Vegas shooter was a stellar citizen, normal guy...who just snapped. The problem is that "snapping" is typically a spontaneous act, and this massacre in Vegas was clearly planned way in advance.
 

SamSpade

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I'll go for this before I believe that he's some lone nut. But I don't believe Oswald acted alone, either. At least Oswald showed signs to his friends and family, and had a suspicious background. Supposedly this Vegas shooter was a stellar citizen, normal guy...who just snapped. The problem is that "snapping" is typically a spontaneous act, and this massacre in Vegas was clearly planned way in advance.
The "planning" part is the hole in the "just an arms dealer" speculation, since his previous trips suggest he was looking for a chance to do something massive.

Still, I have doubts we will ever hear a credible story. As long as the story is stupid, I'm going to think the real motive is something someone doesn't want known.
 

PeoplesElbow

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I can attest to poor security at Mandalay Bay, I was walking through the hotel/conference area trying to get downstairs to the shark reef and happened upon some tables outside of a conference area where all the doors were shut but a full banquet spread was laid out and not a soul was in sight. I quickly made myself a plate of food and took off looking for the shark reef.
 

GURPS

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Reporter Visits Home of Mandalay Bay “Hero” Jesus Campos – Armed Security Guard from Shady Firm Meets Her in Yard


Yesterday, Loomer reported that Campos’ name has been scrubbed from the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino employee database. “One day after I exclusively reported that Campos was scrubbed from the official MGM employee profile database ‘WorkDay,’ I decided to track him down and attempt to speak to him at his home in Las Vegas,” Loomer explained. “When I arrived, an armed security guard was standing in front of Campos’s house. The guard, who identified himself as Troy Goff, said he works for a company called ‘On Scene’ that has been hired out to provide Campos with armed security protection.”

According to Loomer and fellow journalist Mike Tokes, On Scene is at best a dubious security company:


[twitter] https://twitter.com/MikeTokes/status/918308216508841984? [/twitter]
 

itsbob

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The "planning" part is the hole in the "just an arms dealer" speculation, since his previous trips suggest he was looking for a chance to do something massive.

Still, I have doubts we will ever hear a credible story. As long as the story is stupid, I'm going to think the real motive is something someone doesn't want known.
Unless his previous trips were pure coincidence.. that he had reservations at hotels near big events. How many other reservations did he have that weren't? Though, planning something like selling guns on a large scale, wouldn't you want to be near something "big" going on?? All the comings and goings, everyone to busy to notice what it is, or how much you are taking to your room.. you get lost in the crowd.

Maybe the other two were cancelled not because of a change of heart, but because the deal wasn't ready to go yet.

LOTS of questions.. not many answers.. and I don't buy into many conspiracy theory crap..
 

Clem72

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I can attest to poor security at Mandalay Bay, I was walking through the hotel/conference area trying to get downstairs to the shark reef and happened upon some tables outside of a conference area where all the doors were shut but a full banquet spread was laid out and not a soul was in sight. I quickly made myself a plate of food and took off looking for the shark reef.
Reminds me of the chuckle I would get when people unfamiliar with the layout and think they are sneaky pile up a plate from the buffet table outside the poker room (not realizing it was fully intended to be free).
 

lovinmaryland

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where is the hotel surveillance footage
This ^^^ We got clear as day surveillance of Ray Rice knocking his wife out in Vegas how come we have zero surveillance of this guy? I thought the eye in the sky was watching us all? How did he manage to check into the hotel w/ his girlfriends id an under her name? I can tell you I booked a room w/ my son as the second person in the room and he tried to check into the hotel and they wouldn't let him check in w/ out me physically being there. You mean to tell me theres no surveillance at the check in desk???
 

SamSpade

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Two months - and this story has almost totally vanished. No news, no new developments. The only time it comes up at all is during Second Amendment and gun control debates.

I do think the only way this man has anywhere near the kind of money he had was because he sold guns, and the only intelligent reason he spent so much time in casinos - LOSING money - is because it was an acceptable cost to launder money.

And for him to do the business he did, the feds had to know about him.
 

vraiblonde

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Two months - and this story has almost totally vanished. No news, no new developments. The only time it comes up at all is during Second Amendment and gun control debates.

I do think the only way this man has anywhere near the kind of money he had was because he sold guns, and the only intelligent reason he spent so much time in casinos - LOSING money - is because it was an acceptable cost to launder money.

And for him to do the business he did, the feds had to know about him.
This is the general consensus in the VraiMonello household. Tucker Carlson did a piece on it last week and had a couple of investigators with updates, but the lid is closed tightly and burped on this thing. So it's clearly not just some lone nut.
 

Airgasm

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Two months - and this story has almost totally vanished. No news, no new developments.
The largest mass shooting (execution) in this countries history and what Sam said! Very hard to believe the hush that has risen over this investigation. Could this be concentrated effort by the owners of Mandalay Bay to hush the investigation in order to subdue the law suits?
 

katsung47

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My analysis on Stephen Paddock (10/14/2017)

The gunman of Las Vegas shooting case is described as a gray-man:
No criminal record.
No political ties.
No religious affiliation.
No history of mental illness.
No history of violence
That also fits for a figure works for intelligence unit such like FBI.

Paddock worked for the federal government from about 1975 to 1985. He was a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service from 1976 to 1978. After that, he worked for six years as an Internal Revenue Service agent, until 1984. Then, he was a federal auditor for one year, in 1985, focusing on defense contractors. Towards the end of the 1980s, Paddock worked for three years as an internal auditor for a company that later merged to form Lockheed Martin.[15] His work career after this period is not entirely clear. He is known to have run a real-estate business with his brother Eric.[16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Paddock
It's not so easy to find a job in those offices yet he jumped among them. That means he had a special background. Then he went into real estate business.

FBI and DEA have no fat budget. Most operation fund comes from victim's. (see #8)

8. FBI's profit

Everything shows that law enforcement agent use isotope money tracing if you have cash savings at home. But how could they steal from innocent people?

Later I learned from 'National Geography' (1961, June) In article " FBI: public friend number one ". ' Mr. Hoover prides upon the "profit" it shows annually. During fiscal 1960 the FBI received $113,600,000 in operating funds. Fines, savings, and recoveries of stolen property and contraband in cases investigated by the FBI amounted to $142,822,244, or $1.25 returned for every dollar invested by the taxpayer.' It's that 'profit' chase makes FBI a looter. It's that black box practise makes FBI closed and untouchable and new high tech weapons killing without trace makes them ruthless. How do you expect them be in justice while their purpose is pursuing 'profit'?
And I found the Feds made a large profit from real estates business.

430. Monopoly the house in north San Jose (8/25/2006)

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3. The most important thing is that housing market becomes the best way for Feds to make a profit. They take it as a business. e.g. In my community, a 4 bedroom single family house in 1991 was about 200k. (When Feds started to buy in. The first stage) In 1997, the price went up to high 200k. (when Feds started to buy in house in large scale, the second stage) Now the price is about 600k. If they bought a house in 1991 with 20k down payment, the profit is 400k. (Or 100k after deduct 15 years housing cost if the house haven't been rent off.)
Stephen Paddock might then worked for the Feds as its housing business team member. News said he gambles big in casino. Because the money came too easy and it's not his? He probably lost his life as a scapegoat for this reason.

http://katsung.forumotion.com/t14-985-las-vegas-shooting-is-a-false-flag
 

katsung47

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985. Las Vegas shooting is a false flag (10/8/2017)

Las Vegas mass slaughtering was a distraction case done by the Feds(FBI and DEA).

I am the murder target of the Feds(FBI and DEA). Since I stay at home to avoid being set up, They used to organize tours for my relatives to justify a search and arrest. To cover up the framed case from the sight of public, they used to activate big events to distract. My wife were arranged two tours recently. All follow this style.

1. 9/2 to 9/8, my wife had a tour to Canada.
On 8/31, I wrote in #979
What will be big event used to distract public's attention? I think it is war in Korea Peninsula.
9/3,(next day to 9/2), N. Korea exploded a nuclear bomb. If Trump kept his promise of "Fire and fury", there would have been a Korea war.

2. 10/2 to 10/18, my wife had a tour to Europe.
On 9/25, in #983, I said,
"The framed case is going on. My wife said she'll go another trip to Europe from 10/2 to 10/18. So something will happen at that time."
10/1, LasVegas mass slaughter took place. (My wife left home at 10/1 evening, around 17pm. she said the plane would leave at 12:55. What she meant was 0:55 of Oct.2)

3. News said Stephen Paddock might also planned other shooting case in August. It coincides with the murder plot of August. Paddock booked two bedrooms from 8/1 to 8/6 in Blackstone hotel in Chicago which overviews the park where the Lollapalooza music festival took place.(8/2 to 8/5)

That was the time when I alleged the Feds would create a gas explosion murder on me. (Aug. 3)

974. Prepare for a gas leaking (8/9/2017)

On 8/3, a P.G.& E engineer truck drove in my lane. A worker changed the gas meter of my house. I saw him checked my neighborhood but my house was the only one he had worked at. He left hurriedly after I asking him why there was no notice in advance. I called p.G.& E that night. The operator confirmed there was a meter change that day but she didn't know why. Billing is normal. I allege that was an operation of the Feds. They could have installed some device in that new meter which may cause leaking to their control. Three months ago P.G.& E had a commercial in TV Chinese channel to apologize for deaths caused by gas leaking explosion six years ago. Now they are in action. It can be an explosion murder or an unreasonable search in the name of gas leaking.

Re: 958. Create a gas explosion (4/28/2017)
 

katsung47

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989. O.J. almost became a collateral victim (11/2/2017)

O.J. simpson was a target of Las Vegas shooting, I allege.

O.J. was released at 0:08 a.m. 10/1. That night at 10:05 p.m. the Las Vegas massacre took place. The jail he left is near Reno, Nevada, about 450 miles from Las Vegas - where O.J. was going to live. They gave him plenty of time for the journey. The Feds arranged everything - from timing to location. Be noticed that Friday was only two days to the shooting date Sunday.

Simpson has four adult children, two of whom live in Florida, and LaVergne told the Associated Press that “there’s no doubt he’s going to Florida.” Tom Scotto, a friend and golfing buddy, has offered his home in Naples to Simpson.

However, that state’s attorney general informed the Florida Department of Corrections on Friday that he is not welcome there.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/01/quietly-and-with-little-attention-o-j-simpson-is-released-from-prison-early-sunday-morning/?utm_term=.749632819400

The original release time was Monday (10/2), but the shooting which had to accord with the Concert of 10/1 night. So they gave an excuse of "to ensure public safety" to make it on 10/1.

Keast said the overnight release from the prison about 90 miles east of Reno, Nevada, was conducted to avoid media attention. No media were near the front gate at the time when Simpson's car left the prison by a back road and entered nearby Interstate 80, she said.

"We needed to do this to ensure public safety and to avoid any possible incident," Keast said.

She acknowledged Nevada prison officials misled the media with word about the timing and location of Simpson's release. They had advised it would be no earlier than Monday and possibly in Las Vegas.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oj-simpson-future-plans-las-vegas-area-parole-jail-release/
I have noticed that the jail system won't do parole job in week-ends. I've talked about that if the Feds want to kill a victim in jail, they used to arrange the arrest on Friday because following would be week-ends. Parole job is on vacation. Of course, for "public safety", there was exception.

O.J.Simpson is a celebrity, his death would increase the influence of a massacre shooting. That's what a distraction needs. O.J. almost became a collateral victim.
 
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