Rachel Carson...

[Larry Gude]

...would be 100 this coming May 27.

Her story is a classic example of unintended consequences. Her concern for nature and what a pesticide might do up stream of it's intended target brought about the ban of DDT, which means, to this day, millions get sick and millions die, every year, because of it's removal from the market place.

She gets an undeserved black eye for this. Concerned, yes she was, very much so, along with fears of what other impacts industrial and chemical waste could have on our trees and waters and animals. But she advocated the intelligent use of our industry and products and their disposal and application's, not hysterical banning, which is the rap hung on her by opponents. The converse is her work is likewise elevated beyond what it was, what the intentions were, by her fans.

In any event, she is a person worth learning more about and she can provide you with yet one more example of just what a towering dolt Al Gore is; He is using now, over global warming, the hysteria she has been accused of using to make her point about pesticides.

She didn't use hysterics and too much was done in her name.

 

[Tinkerbell]

...millions get sick and millions die, every year, because of it's removal from the market place...

I didn't understand what you meant by this until I did a little Wikpedia reading. Very interesting.

And you are absolutely right, she didn't want a total ban, just responsible use.

Thanks for sharing about a person in history I didn't know about. She was an interesting lady, especially in her time!

 

[Larry Gude]

You are now...

I didn't understand what you meant by this until I did a little Wikpedia reading. Very interesting.

And you are absolutely right, she didn't want a total ban, just responsible use.

Thanks for sharing about a person in history I didn't know about. She was an interesting lady, especially in her time!

...Person of the Day. I can't tell you how cool I think it is when someone will actually take the time to look some stuff up and find some things out on their own and then come back to the discussion. I'm sure it happens more often than not, but it is still very refreshing and you are COOL!

I get this all the time;

"Illegal war! Bush lied!"

I say "Read the Iraq War Resolution and what others have said leading up to the vote. It is, after all, what they VOTED on."

Then I get "I can't be bothered with facts. Everybody knows he lied and Cheney lied and Rummy lied and this and that and the other and I don't need to read some stupid document to know what everybody knows."


So, thank you! You have an educated opinion!

PS: For extra credit, read this;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/17/AR2007051702627.html?hpid=artslot

 

[Tomcat]

...PS: For extra credit, read this;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/17/AR2007051702627.html?hpid=artslot

Not a bad article considering it's from the Washington Post

 

[Tinkerbell]

...Person of the Day. I can't tell you how cool I think it is when someone will actually take the time to look some stuff up and find some things out on their own and then come back to the discussion. I'm sure it happens more often than not, but it is still very refreshing and you are COOL!

I get this all the time;

"Illegal war! Bush lied!"

I say "Read the Iraq War Resolution and what others have said leading up to the vote. It is, after all, what they VOTED on."

Then I get "I can't be bothered with facts. Everybody knows he lied and Cheney lied and Rummy lied and this and that and the other and I don't need to read some stupid document to know what everybody knows."


So, thank you! You have an educated opinion!

PS: For extra credit, read this;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/17/AR2007051702627.html?hpid=artslot

Aw, thanks! I'm just a real curious person and I love Google.

That WP article was good, it seems she would be so proud to see that her legacy lives on. Only I wish Gore wouldn't use her in connection with himself. I don't think he truly embodies what she was about.

 

[Larry Gude]

I wouldn't go...

Not a bad article considering it's from the Washington Post

...too far in praising it. This part;

said her book had helped scare people away from a pesticide that could have saved numerous human lives.

...is borderline criminal negligence. Numerous?

From the Post as well, over three years ago;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43460-2004Jul11.html

As HIV/AIDS gains new (and deserved) attention and funds, it will be ironic if Western governments overlook another accelerating epidemic that has killed and disabled even more people in the past 20 years. It is malaria.

Now, imagine if you wrote a book that said AID's medicine was an environmental problem and that people took up your banner and said 'this must stop in order to save a few bald Eagles!!!!'

Again, malaria has killed and infected MORE human beings than AID's over the last 20 years and yet, she is an icon of the Gore-nicks/enviro nuts.

Think about that, really, think about that. The rational response to concerns over AID's medicine, be it the use or over use or production waste hazards or whatever, would be to keep the good, lose the bad, right?

Yet DDT, perhaps the best pesticide ever; BAN.

Think about why. I mean, 40 years ago Malaria was a constant and consistent killer in places like New Orleans and throughout the South. Now, it's rare. DDT eradicated it and modern practices kept it down.

It's the profound hypocrisy and reflexive shriekery that just makes me wonder about us.

 

[Larry Gude]

You are on a roll...

Aw, thanks! I'm just a real curious person and I love Google.

That WP article was good, it seems she would be so proud to see that her legacy lives on. Only I wish Gore wouldn't use her in connection with himself. I don't think he truly embodies what she was about.

...Gore is her antithesis. Gore hurts far more than he helps; he delegitimizes issues. How much stock should we, would we put in the Burger King commercial character preaching to us about the wonders of broccoli?

 

[BS Gal]

Larry: My dad was in the agriculture business (pesticides) and felt very strongly about the DDT ban because of the lives it would/did/does save due to the decrease in malaria. He was a strong advocate for the safe use of DDT. I'm glad you brought this to my attention. I am going to see if the library has her book. I'd be very interested in reading it.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'm happy...

Larry: My dad was in the agriculture business (pesticides) and felt very strongly about the DDT ban because of the lives it would/did/does save due to the decrease in malaria. He was a strong advocate for the safe use of DDT. I'm glad you brought this to my attention. I am going to see if the library has her book. I'd be very interested in reading it.

...that this thread is been of interest to some people and, so far, vitriol free.

There's hope for us after all!


Get your dad to explain how DDT works some time. It was an awesome chemical. It was the epitome of using the perfect tool with just the right application instead of using numerous less effective tools numerous times. It was the difference between putting a fire out when it started, at it's source vs. trying to manage a wild fire.

 

[BS Gal]

...that this thread is been of interest to some people and, so far, vitriol free.

There's hope for us after all!


Get your dad to explain how DDT works some time. It was an awesome chemical. It was the epitome of using the perfect tool with just the right application instead of using numerous less effective tools numerous times. It was the difference between putting a fire out when it started, at it's source vs. trying to manage a wild fire.

Well, my dad isn't alive, but I heard his arguments for DDT over and over again during my childhood and my adult years. He never mentioned Rachael or her book. He felt DDT was responsible for saving millions of lives in the Third World countries.

 

[Larry Gude]

Oops...

Well, my dad isn't alive, but I heard his arguments for DDT over and over again during my childhood and my adult years. He never mentioned Rachael or her book. He felt DDT was responsible for saving millions of lives in the Third World countries.

...sorry about that. Glad he was passionate around you about what he KNEW versus what he 'felt'.

 

[High EGT]

...would be 100 this coming May 27.

Her story is a classic example of unintended consequences. Her concern for nature and what a pesticide might do up stream of it's intended target brought about the ban of DDT, which means, to this day, millions get sick and millions die, every year, because of it's removal from the market place.

She gets an undeserved black eye for this. Concerned, yes she was, very much so, along with fears of what other impacts industrial and chemical waste could have on our trees and waters and animals. But she advocated the intelligent use of our industry and products and their disposal and application's, not hysterical banning, which is the rap hung on her by opponents. The converse is her work is likewise elevated beyond what it was, what the intentions were, by her fans.

In any event, she is a person worth learning more about and she can provide you with yet one more example of just what a towering dolt Al Gore is; He is using now, over global warming, the hysteria she has been accused of using to make her point about pesticides.

She didn't use hysterics and too much was done in her name.

My daughter while in 7th grade, chose Rachel Carson as her science fair project.

 

[BS Gal]

...sorry about that. Glad he was passionate around you about what he KNEW versus what he 'felt'.

Yes. It was what he KNEW.

 

[Speedy70]

On May 27, 2007, the nation will celebrate the 100th birthday of Rachel Carson, America’s pioneer of the modern environmental movement and author of the landmark book, Silent Spring. The Newton Marasco Foundation (NMF) is proud to organize a nationwide tribute to Miss Carson.

Centennial Celebration Events

Rachel Carson Centennial Celebration events were kicked off in the fall of 2006 in Washington DC and New York City with presentations of the play, A Sense of Wonder, based on the life and works of Miss Carson. The planned events to be held across the nation in 2007 include:

• Rachel Carson Scholars — NMF is partnering with the Maryland State Department of Education to recognize and reward the next generation of scientific and literary scholars who embrace her message of environmental stewardship and activism. Find out more about the Rachel Carson Scholar Program.

• A Night on Capitol Hill — NMF is welcoming the 110th Congress with a special performance of A Sense of Wonder on May 9, 2007. Find out more about this performance.

• A National Tour of the Play — In partnership with actress/playwright Kaiulani Lee, NMF is taking A Sense of Wonder to communities, organizations and universities throughout the nation. Find out more about productions of the play that are planned

• Capturing the Play on Film — NMF hopes to record A Sense of Wonder on DVD for posterity

• Rachel Carson Day — NMF is working with local and state governments to declare May 27, 2007, Rachel Carson Day, a pesticide-free day in communities across the nation

• Generating awareness of the relevance of Rachel Carson’s message today — NMF is encouraging magazines, newspapers and editorial staffs to highlight the importance and continued relevance of Miss Carson’s work.

• Rachel Carson in the Classroom — NMF is working with educational institutions and media companies to create instructional DVDs highlighting her work and creating learning tools for teachers and students for years to come.

About Rachel Carson

Rachel Carson has been called the “patron saint of the environmental movement.” She was a marine biologist and zoologist. She is best known for her critically acclaimed book, Silent Spring, which alerted the world to the dangers of chemical pesticides and launched our modern environmental movement. Al Gore stated in his introduction to the 40th anniversary printing of Silent Spring, “…without this book, the environmental movement might have been long delayed or never have developed at all…”
Miss Carson is also one of America’s great poets of the natural world. In her earlier books, including The Sea Around Us and The Edge of the Sea, she brought alive the beauty and mystery of the seas and its creatures to millions of readers. Miss Carson’s work and life continue to inspire us with a sense of wonder toward the natural world and a renewed commitment to defend it.
Over forty years ago, she testified before Congress calling for new policies to protect human health and the environment. Her scientific work and writings led to environmental legislation that guides us to this day. Posthumously she received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian award.

 

[Tinkerbell]

My daughter while in 7th grade, chose Rachel Carson as her science fair project.

Great choice - someone different! I'll have to remember her for when my kindergardener gets to the project phase.

 

[Larry Gude]

What did she...

My daughter while in 7th grade, chose Rachel Carson as her science fair project.

...take away from the project? I'd be interested in her 7th grade perspective, plus, how old is she now? Curious if her perspective has changed with time.

 

[Lenny]

It's the thing to do when you don't have reason on your side.

Forty-three years after her death, Carson is still cited as an inspiration across the environmental spectrum, by endangered-species advocates and anti-pesticide groups and researchers concerned about hormone-mimicking pollutants.

But then Darwin said in his later years his theory of evoluation was not credible.

Benjamin Franklin proposed daylight savings time as a joke.

Martin Luther King, Jr. wasn't joking. But he never would have asked for preferential treatment, apology for slavery or restitution.

Bill Clinton said it wasn't sex. But then later his defenders said it was only sex.

 

[Tinkerbell]

I didn't understand what you meant by this until I did a little Wikpedia reading. Very interesting.

And you are absolutely right, she didn't want a total ban, just responsible use.

Thanks for sharing about a person in history I didn't know about. She was an interesting lady, especially in her time!

I got blank grey for the above post How boring....

But I got Larry Green too!

 

[Larry Gude]

I think...

I got blank grey for the above post How boring....

But I got Larry Green too!

...blank gray comes from newbee peeps who can't give red or green for awhile. Ask Vrail how that works.

 

[High EGT]

...take away from the project? I'd be interested in her 7th grade perspective, plus, how old is she now? Curious if her perspective has changed with time.

Hopefully the message to any young mind is that one person can make a differance. As for my daughter she just turned 14 and now interested in Journalism. Atually likes to site and watch politacal pundits duke it out and enjoys listening to women such as Michelle Malkin express politcal view points. She's gone as far as wanting her own talk show and of course Dad as a perminate talking head on politics No doubt a Daddy's girl.