Raw milk
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Cowgirl
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I've been drinking raw milk for several months now. I've also read the benefits of it, but I'm not convinced it's 100% factual. I think there are dangers to raw milk, but I think there are also dangers with other food that's not properly handled. I just like the tast of raw milk.
It's currently illegal to sell raw milk in MD, which if you ask me is total bullshiat. It's perfectly legal to sell sushi with raw fish or to sell raw oysters and other raw meat. Milk shouldn't be any different.
Some people who have dairy animals will sell shares of the animal and charge the buyer a fee for taking care of the animal, then the buyer gets milk. Sometimes you can find someone who is willing to break a law to sell you milk, but many people are uncomfortable doing that.
I have a dairy goat, so I personally milk her and handle the milk. I know she's clean, the milk is clean, and my equipment is clean. I don't worry at all about drinking the milk. IF you do find someone willing to sell you raw milk, you need to visit the farm and see how the animals are kept, how the equipment is kept, and ask them what their milking/storing routine is.
I would NOT recommend raw milk for immune-deficient people, small children, pregnant women, or elderly people.
It's currently illegal to sell raw milk in MD, which if you ask me is total bullshiat. It's perfectly legal to sell sushi with raw fish or to sell raw oysters and other raw meat. Milk shouldn't be any different.
Some people who have dairy animals will sell shares of the animal and charge the buyer a fee for taking care of the animal, then the buyer gets milk. Sometimes you can find someone who is willing to break a law to sell you milk, but many people are uncomfortable doing that.
I have a dairy goat, so I personally milk her and handle the milk. I know she's clean, the milk is clean, and my equipment is clean. I don't worry at all about drinking the milk. IF you do find someone willing to sell you raw milk, you need to visit the farm and see how the animals are kept, how the equipment is kept, and ask them what their milking/storing routine is.
I would NOT recommend raw milk for immune-deficient people, small children, pregnant women, or elderly people.
DEEKAYPEE8569
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Where can I find goat's milk? And, is it cheaper or more expensive than that LACTAID Lactose-Free stuff in the grocerary store? TIA
Cowgirl
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Oh, I love sushi.
I just think it's stupid some raw food can be sold and not milk. I milk my goat twice per day, but you could milk once or three times if you wanted. Twice a day is the "standard" schedule.
Goat milk still contains lactose but it's thought that it's less offensive to lactose intolerant people because the fat globules in goat milk is much smaller than those in cow milk, so it's much easier to digest. Also, some research has been done to show that some lactose intolerant people actually have an allergy to the main protein in cow milk (alpha S1 casein) and are not actually lactose intolerant. Goat milk (and human milk) lacks that protein.
I love goat milk. It tasted different the first time I tried it, but now tastes exactly the same to me (actually, better because it's creamier due to the fat content). You can find canned goat milk in most grocery stores ($$$) and some health food stores sell goat milk.
SamIam2You
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Spent a summer on Grandma's farm when I was a kid. We would milk the cows early in the am, strain the milk through a cheese cloth and drink it the same am. IMHO...nasty....I'm still traumatized.
red_explorer
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raw milk!!!
I love it!!! I visit an organic dairy farm in NY, know how he cleans his animals before they are milked....its awesome!!! But we are drinking the milk thats already cooled down in his bulk tank. So wonderful!!!!!!!!
I love it!!! I visit an organic dairy farm in NY, know how he cleans his animals before they are milked....its awesome!!! But we are drinking the milk thats already cooled down in his bulk tank. So wonderful!!!!!!!!
DEEKAYPEE8569
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Oh, I love sushi.
I milk my goat twice per day, but you could milk once or three times if you wanted. Twice a day is the "standard" schedule.
Goat milk still contains lactose but it's thought that it's less offensive to lactose intolerant people because the fat globules in goat milk is much smaller than those in cow milk, so it's much easier to digest. Also, some research has been done to show that some lactose intolerant people actually have an allergy to the main protein in cow milk (alpha S1 casein) and are not actually lactose intolerant. Goat milk (and human milk) lacks that protein.
I love goat milk. It tasted different the first time I tried it, but now tastes exactly the same to me (actually, better because it's creamier due to the fat content). You can find canned goat milk in most grocery stores ($$$) and some health food stores sell goat milk.
Well, I was just wondering if anybody else had done any comparitive shopping and knew the cost difference between the two. I guess I'll just do a little research myself.
Thanks Cowgirl
not nasty to me
i drank fresh milk straight from cows on my grandfather farm in mississippi from 2 years of age to 11. i never thought it to taste nasty. i meant we milked the miilk from the cow into a bucket and there was no straining. my grandmother made cheese and buttermilk from it too.
i drank fresh milk straight from cows on my grandfather farm in mississippi from 2 years of age to 11. i never thought it to taste nasty. i meant we milked the miilk from the cow into a bucket and there was no straining. my grandmother made cheese and buttermilk from it too.
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shagger
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I've been told that once you've had raw milk from a cow, you will not want any other kind of milk.
It really is illegal to sell raw milk to consumers in MD. Used to be you could get around this by buying shares in the cow, as an owner you were not a consumer. Maryland Health and Mental Hygiene (MDHMH) had an emergency measure passed a couple of years ago outlawing this practice. More on it here ACTION REQUIRED: Maryland Raw Milk, Part II
My mother and sister have been drinking raw milk for years. Most of the folks who buy it are parents of children with allergies or asthma and they swear by it. You have to be sure the farm conditions are clean. The farmers in Kentucky sell the milk to the public but have signs up that their milk is "For Pets Only" because they aren't allowed to sell it for human consumption. Customers supply their own containers and sterilize them each trip. What people do with the milk when they get it home is their own business.
Hadn't thought of that dodge, could come in handy sometime.
i can honestly say, shagger, every once in a while i get, or in some wierd way i sense the taste of the milk in my mouth as a child. that experience is ALWAYS a welcome moment. i had 3 brothers and 2 sisters drinking the milk as i did, and by the grace of GOD none of us ever got sick from it.
JESUS helped people, but he never created a welfare program.
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Cowgirl
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I'm pretty sure you're not even allowed to advertise it for pets anymore. I think it has to be for "craft" use only.
Drinking raw milk is really a bad idea. I agree it tastes really good, but cows carry diseases communicable to humans. Cows are not affected by these diseases, but they can be lethal to humans. I suggest you read up on Louis Pasteur.
Even your grandma knew enough to heat the milk to the proper temperature and hold it there long enough to kill bacteria. It's called pasteurization. The milk is not boiled.
One hint to know if your milk is actually raw is to look for yellow to blue marbling in the milk. Raw whole milk will separate its butterfat which floats to the top as cream. Raw milk isn't homogenized, so there will always be a tiny bit of butterfat left after the cream is separated (called skimming hence "skim milk"). Also because raw milk isn't homogenized it will have a very slight blueish streaking where the milk solids are trying to coagulate (curd) and separate from the whey. Once separated, you get "curds and whey" or cottage cheese.
Drinking raw milk is akin to going to Mexico and wrapping your lips around the nastiest faucet you can find and gulping it in.
Again, I don't believe you are really getting a "raw" product. But if you are, you are on your own.
Cowgirl
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I'm milking my own damn goat. I'm pretty sure she's not pasteurizing it herself. I know my animal is healthy, and I know I am handling the milk properly. Drinking raw milk CAN be perfectly safe. It's not like I'm going to some random farm and getting milk. It's no where near like drinking water from Mexico.
Oh, and milk doesn't curdle unless it's been sitting out. If it's refrigerated the cream will separate but then you're just left with cream and lower fat milk.
If it separates it's no big deal...ya just shake it back up.Oh yeah, and the main reason milk was pasteurized is so it has a longer shelf life.
I have never read anything good about drinking raw milk. I hope that those of you that are drinking it are not giving it to your kids. They are too young to know better, but you as adults should. Google it, read up on the risks, and then make your decisions, but I ask you to at least educate yourselves first. My mother remembers a cousin that died in the 40's from raw milk, and things HAVE NOT changed. It's still as dangerous to drink as it was during the depression when there was not much choice - Now there is. Why risk death when there are no known health benefits, and the taste is subjective? Like most articles say, you are only rolling a dice. Spend your risk taking on a lottery ticket. Gosh, some of you "organic" people really get carried away. it's not worth dying for. Why not go eat some fresh oysters in the middle of August? Just put them on ice, they'll be fine right? Yummy! I'm going to spend the next week in the bathroom???? What??????
