Reid claims ‘insidious’ GOP conspiracy is releasing ‘junk polls’ to create narrative of a ‘red wave’

[Kyle]

Polls have suggested that Republicans will retake the House, the Senate is up for grabs

MSNBC’s Joy Reid pushed another conspiracy theory of her own Monday night by suggesting that Republican polling firms were fixing results to favor their political party.

"The ReidOut" host attacked polls continuing to suggest that Republican candidates are surging ahead of the midterm elections. In addition to claiming that their results were wrong, she insisted that there were part of an "insidious" plan to affect the media narrative.

"If you get past those headlines and dig a little deeper, you would uncover an insidious and seemingly intentional campaign from Republican-backed polling firms to flood the zone and tip the balance of polling averages in favor of their candidates, to create a narrative that Republicans are surging and that a red wave is imminent and inevitable," Reid said.

Reid claims ‘insidious’ GOP conspiracy is releasing ‘junk polls’ to create narrative of a ‘red wave’

MSNBC host Joy Reid pushed a conspiracy that Republicans were affecting midterm election poll results to push the “red wave” narrative during her Monday show.

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[stgislander]

I'm sure the Q-tip head guy agrees with her.

 

[Kyle]

I'm sure the Q-tip head guy agrees with her.

 

[vraiblonde]

Joy Reid is a ****ing moron and it makes me wonder why FN is constantly promoting her. If I gave a sh*t what Joy Reid had to say I'd watch her show.

 

[Kyle]

Joy Reid is a ****ing moron and it makes me wonder why FN is constantly promoting her. If I gave a sh*t what Joy Reid had to say I'd watch her show.

Sometimes it's fun to see the train wreck.

 

[SamSpade]

The only “Republican” polling firm I know of is Rasmussen, who frequently overstates Republican support. I don’t see it as willful on his part; I think Scott Rasmussen has his own bias as to what constitutes a fair representation of the voting population.

But RCP has observed that MOST polling firms understate Republicans as years of final polling compared to election results differ. It’s also been the subject of MANY articles trying to guess why they ALL get it wrong. Is it bad methodology? Bad samples? Some poor survey design? Or are those surveyed just - lying?

MAYBE the other polling firms are deliberately biased in a lame attempt at voter suppression. I just think they base their surveys on presumptions tainted by their own left-leaning bias. Why? Because the pattern of GETTING IT WRONG has gone the same way across the board for the last four or more election cycles . That’s not statistically possible, at least not without willful involvement.

 

[my-thyme]

I was sitting with my aunt last night, and she had MSNBC on.

I really wanted to throw something at the TV. That Chris Hayes is a lead-you-by-your-nose idiot.

 

[vraiblonde]

But RCP has observed that MOST polling firms understate Republicans as years of final polling compared to election results differ. It’s also been the subject of MANY articles trying to guess why they ALL get it wrong. Is it bad methodology? Bad samples? Some poor survey design? Or are those surveyed just - lying?

When you look at their methodology, they pretty much always oversample Democrats.

But really, you can make statistics say whatever you want and who's gonna know?

 

[GURPS]

When you look at their methodology, they pretty much always oversample Democrats.

a majority of ' Independents ' lean left as well

 

[Kyle]

a majority of ' Independents ' lean left as well

Just Democrats that are ashamed to be seen as Democrats.

 

[SamSpade]

When you look at their methodology, they pretty much always oversample Democrats.

But really, you can make statistics say whatever you want and who's gonna know?

They try to base their sampling of those based on party registrations. What they MAY not figure is what portion of the Democrats sampled just won't bother making it to the polls. Even Rasmussen picks a larger sampling of Democrats, or at least he DID, because there are usually more registered Democrats than Republicans.

I don't think if they PLAN to just make it say whatever they want, that they would go to SUCH LENGTHS to create it, invest a crapload of money and labor and follow a methodology only to say at the end, eff it, we'll just make it whatever we want it to say. A newspaper or magazine can do that - it takes nothing to write a column that is biased. Sampling and polling is considerably more costly and labor intensive.

What makes statistical polling honest is competitiveness. Who wants the opinion of a sampling firm who's always wrong? Hence, you DO see outlets that improve over time. Where they go wrong is when they're all wrong in the same direction - no one's getting it right to show them they're biased.

 

[spr1975wshs]

Scott Rasmussen

...was a high school classmate of my wife's. No fond memories.

He helped his father start ESPN, then started the polling organization.

 

[vraiblonde]

Who wants the opinion of a sampling firm who's always wrong?

People who only want to hear what confirms their bias.

People who live in an ideological bubble filled with those who think exactly like them.

At least half this country wants the opinion of polling firms that tell them what they want to hear, even if it turns out they're always wrong.

 

[vraiblonde]

I don't think if they PLAN to just make it say whatever they want, that they would go to SUCH LENGTHS to create it, invest a crapload of money and labor and follow a methodology only to say at the end, eff it, we'll just make it whatever we want it to say. A newspaper or magazine can do that - it takes nothing to write a column that is biased. Sampling and polling is considerably more costly and labor intensive.

I think perhaps because you are so honest, you think everyone is.

It's pretty easy to take that money, then write whatever the client wants to have out there. You assume they actually conduct polls at all, but I've never been asked to be part of one - have you? In fact I don't know anyone who has taken part in a Rasmussen or Quinnipiac or any other major poll.

 

[SamSpade]

. You assume they actually conduct polls at all, but I've never been asked to be part of one - have you?

More than once. But the one I participated in the furthest was a “push” poll, where they would ask me if I STILL thought X after they informed me of some little news nugget. I began to see a pattern where they ONLY asked the “what if…” questions if my answer had been conservative.

It finally occurred to me they weren’t the slightest bit interested in what my opinion was. I’d give an answer they didn’t like and they’d challenge it with a followup, presumably because I was uninformed so they’d enlighten me and ask it again.

A REAL survey JUST wants my answer. So I hung up on them.

Ever since - I just lie.

 

[RoseRed]

She's appropriating white culture with that straight blonde hair.

 

[Kyle]

She's appropriating white culture with that straight blonde hair.

Ack’in White.

 

[TPD]

She's appropriating white culture with that straight blonde hair.

What’s up with that blue lipstick? Was it part of her Halloween costume?

 

[RoseRed]

What’s up with that blue lipstick? Was it part of her Halloween costume?

Was it blue? I thought it was black.

 

[TPD]

Was it blue? I thought it was black.

I saw blue but my eyesight isn’t 20/20