Romney's Life Is His Father's Legacy

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"BOSTON -- From his slicked, carefully coifed hair to his data-driven business principles to his unwavering devotion to his oft-maligned Mormon faith, Mitt Romney is the spitting image of his father physically, professionally and morally.

The depth of their bond can be seen in one early story.

As an 18-year-old, Mitt Romney met a 15-year-old girl with whom he felt he could share his life. He then left for a year of college and a 2 1/2-year Mormon mission in France, during which time his father not only took his future wife, Ann Davies, to church, but converted her to their faith."

Romney's Life Is His Father's Legacy - washingtonpost.com
 

Starman3000m

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"BOSTON -- From his slicked, carefully coifed hair to his data-driven business principles to his unwavering devotion to his oft-maligned Mormon faith, Mitt Romney is the spitting image of his father physically, professionally and morally.

The depth of their bond can be seen in one early story.

As an 18-year-old, Mitt Romney met a 15-year-old girl with whom he felt he could share his life. He then left for a year of college and a 2 1/2-year Mormon mission in France, during which time his father not only took his future wife, Ann Davies, to church, but converted her to their faith."

Romney's Life Is His Father's Legacy - washingtonpost.com

(Excerpt from the article - link provided above)
"By the time Mitt returned in 1969, Ann's conversion was complete. Three months later the couple _ he was 22, she 19 _ married, first in a civil ceremony in Ann's home and the next day in the Mormon temple in Salt Lake City."

IOW: Had Ann not converted to the Mormon faith, Mitt's father would not have approved of the marriage.:whistle:
 
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MMDad

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IOW: Had Ann not converted to the Mormon faith, Mitt's father would not have approved of the marriage.:whistle:
Does that seem unusual to you? Why is it even worth mentioning?

Wouldn't the the same be true if they were Catholic, Lutheran, Muslim, or Jewish?
 

Starman3000m

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Does that seem unusual to you? Why is it even worth mentioning?

Wouldn't the the same be true if they were Catholic, Lutheran, Muslim, or Jewish?

That actually was the point! Mitt would not have followed in his father's legacy if Ann had not converted to Mormonism.

I married an Atheist gal and my Christian mom did not forbid it. Praise God (literally) that my wife later accepted the New Testament Jesus as mentioned in the testimony of how God saved our marriage:
Testimony of Mike Ramirez
 

tommyjones

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That actually was the point! Mitt would not have followed in his father's legacy if Ann had not converted to Mormonism.

again, so what. Mitt was on his mission at the time, i am sure that he was fully indoctrinated with with the mormom ideals, and that he would have required his future wife to be a mormom so that they could be "sealed" to each other in the temple.

so the point is that people tend to follow the religion with which they have been indoctrinated. :shrug:
 

Starman3000m

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Yes but you also stated you were on the verge of Divorcing your wife because she wasnt a believer, and then she recieved the "Word" (don't take that as making fun of you).

Willing to divorce your wife because she doesnt believe the same as you, isnt any differen than Romney not wanting to marry until his girlfriend converted.

It is not uncommon for different faiths to have "issues" with someone marrying from a different denomination or faith. your being obtuse if you deny that.

The difference is that I was already married to my wife - she was not a fiancee, as in the case of Mitt Romney. Our marriage was on the rocks and I was the cause of it for the first three years, as explained, while my Atheist wife still put up with it and remained with me through it all. To this day, I marvel why she did not leave me as she had sufficient cause - but we know this was in God's plan. The unexplainable is that I knew I needed to get my life straightened out and that God was the answer. It's just that when my wife did not want to have anything to do with God, I had to choose between staying in my marriage, which was already failing, or leaving her in order to have my life turned over to God. Also remember that at that time, I did not believe in the importance of Jesus as having to be my Mediator because I believed I could just go straight to God.

The experience was two-fold, for my wife and me; an experience that brought us both to Salvation through the only way which is God's Plan through Jesus Christ. (John 14:6)

Also: The main difference is that God converted my wife to faith in Jesus Christ while Romney's dad worked on converting his wife to the Mormon faith - which by the way believes in a different Jesus than the New Testament Saviour.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.
 
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tommyjones

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The difference is that I was already married to my wife - she was not a fiancee, as in the case of Mitt Romney. Our marriage was on the rocks and I was the cause of it for the first three years, as explained, while my Atheist wife still put up with it and remained with me through it all. To this day, I marvel why she did not leave me as she had sufficient cause - but we know this was in God's plan. The unexplainable is that I knew I needed to get my life straightened out and that God was the answer. It's just that when my wife did not want to have anything to do with God, I had to choose between staying in my marriage, which was already failing, or leaving her in order to have my life turned over to God. Also remember that at that time, I did not believe in the importance of Jesus as having to be my Mediator because I believed I could just go straight to God.

The experience was two-fold, for my wife and me; an experience that brought us both to Salvation through the only way which is God's Plan through Jesus Christ. (John 14:6)

Also: The main difference is that God converted my wife to faith in Jesus Christ while Romney's dad worked on converting his wife to the Mormon faith - which by the way believes in a different Jesus than the New Testament Saviour.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.


dont you mean that you forced your wifes acceptance of your religion, not your dad?

what a tool, going to divorce a woman you married knowing she was an atheist because she wouldn't accept your delusions. dont you feel guilty having guilted her into pretending to accpet your religion as a way to save the marraige
 

Starman3000m

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IF your wife didnt become delusional.... err i mean a believer :)lmao: :whistle:) would you still been willing to divorce her?

Yes. I had already made up my mind right then and there (as explained in my testimony) and was resigned to divorce being the next step. I actually believed that God's answer was revealed when my wife told me to "quit harping at her" about God. Yet, God had other plans and this is where His Divine Intervention took place.

Being close to God and having a personal spiritual relationship with Him was the most important for me above anything else and God knew I had reached the point where was willing to leave my wife in order to get my life straightened out with Him.

My wife, Diane, mentioned that when I had spoken the words to her, asking her if she believed Jesus was the Son of God, she had a sudden awareness of God's attempt to reach her. She also stated that had I asked her that question any other time of my own words they would not have had the affect on her as when she heard them that evening.

Diane and I have been married for 34 years now and it wouldn't have been possible had God not saved our marriage.
 

Starman3000m

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dont you mean that you forced your wifes acceptance of your religion, not your dad?

what a tool, going to divorce a woman you married knowing she was an atheist because she wouldn't accept your delusions. dont you feel guilty having guilted her into pretending to accpet your religion as a way to save the marraige


Divorce would actually have been better for my wife due to the way I had been making her life miserable because of my own unsettled spirit. God had other plans that saved our marriage. It was not me that "guilted" her into accepting Christ as her Lord and Saviour; it was God's Holy Spirit intervening in our marriage - a miracle that we cannot explain to those who cannot understand.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.
 

Starman3000m

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Ok so admittedly you would divorce your wife for not believing the same as you, but you dont see any correalation to Romney not wanting to marry someone who doesnt believe the same as him?

Who cares that you married her, you were going to divorce her because she didnt hold your faith, even though you knew that going in.

I did not know going in how our marriage would begin to fall apart due to my own fault. Fact is, no one always knows how the marriage will work until after a few years of being married. Some stay together and remain miserably at odds with one another. Which is better?
 

tommyjones

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Yes. I had already made up my mind right then and there (as explained in my testimony) and was resigned to divorce being the next step. I actually believed that God's answer was revealed when my wife told me to "quit harping at her" about God.

how is that not you hounding her into it????

star said:
Diane and I have been married for 34 years now and it wouldn't have been possible had she not given in to my harping on her

:thatsbetter:
 

itsbob

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Divorce would actually have been better for my wife due to the way I had been making her life miserable because of my own unsettled spirit. God had other plans that saved our marriage. It was not me that "guilted" her into accepting Christ as her Lord and Saviour; it was God's Holy Spirit intervening in our marriage - a miracle that we cannot explain to those who cannot understand.

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.

Are you a Baptist?? Becasue you come across more and more after every post as a Moron.
 

Starman3000m

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Hey you guys worked it but that wasnt the point. But your willingness to divorce her for not being a Faither is no different than Romney wanting his fiance/girlfriend/chippy/whatever to join his faith.

Just another aspect of life that you and Romney share :whistle:

Here's the difference; my wife was not aware that I was going to divorce her as that was something I had privately decided on my own and prayed to God about.

Romney's wife knew they were going to be married but that it couldn't happen unless she converted to Mormonism.(was converted by Mitt's dad)
 

tommyjones

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Here's the difference; my wife was not aware that I was going to divorce her as that was something I had privately decided on my own and prayed to God about.

Romney's wife knew they were going to be married but that it couldn't happen unless she converted to Mormonism.(was converted by Mitt's dad)

i am sure that she had NO IDEA that you two were on the verge of splitting up. women are usually clueless to this kind of thing :sarcasm:

its exactly the same thing, the only difference is that Mit was honest from the beginning, you made a vow to your wife, and before god that was not in good faith if you were going to divorce her over religion, knowing that she was an atheist from the beginning.
 

itsbob

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Here's the difference; my wife was not aware that I was going to divorce her as that was something I had privately decided on my own and prayed to God about.

Romney's wife knew they were going to be married but that it couldn't happen unless she converted to Mormonism.(was converted by Mitt's dad)

This is the most stupid thing I've ever read..

Why did you marry the heathen in the first place? Was the pre-marital sex THAT good??

We get it.. EVERYONE is wrong when it comes to religion but you, and YOUR religion.

Everyone elses's reasoning and beliefs are all BS but yours.

Nobody else's decison making concerning religion make sense but yours..

And you were going to destroy a marriage over your religion?? That's just STUPID!! But you claim this is what God told you to do..

So what if he tells you to go to the local jewish elementary school tomorrow and kill all the unblievers? You going to do that too?
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
That actually was the point! Mitt would not have followed in his father's legacy if Ann had not converted to Mormonism.
So your point is that Mitt and other Mormons are just like other Christians, as well as being just like people of other faiths. :yay:

So why did you bother pointing it out? Your tone didn't say "Look! Mitt is just like us!"
 

Starman3000m

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i am sure that she had NO IDEA that you two were on the verge of splitting up. women are usually clueless to this kind of thing :sarcasm:

its exactly the same thing, the only difference is that Mit was honest from the beginning, you made a vow to your wife, and before god that was not in good faith if you were going to divorce her over religion, knowing that she was an atheist from the beginning.


When I made my vows to my wife, I had no thought about faith in God having any part of our marriage. As stated in my testimony, I was not even a "Christian" at the time - only thought believing in God made me one. The difference is knowing the True Jesus of the New Testament.

I am no better than you, Tommy, in the eyes of God. The only difference is that I have accepted the Truth in knowing Jesus as being the Son of God and Saviour of mankind and trust Him as my Lord and Saviour. This happened during God's Divine intervention which spiritually changed my life as well as saving my marriage by bringing my Atheist wife to the knowledge that God realy does exist and that He provided the way for mankind's Salvation.
This is available for you as well - without having to belong to any certain "organized religion".
 
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