Russia duped Europe into energy dependence by funding 'rabid environmental groups'

[Kyle]

Expert James Carafano: 'Russians actually fund some of the most rabid environmental groups in Europe'


For years, world leaders have accused Russia of funding environmental groups in Europe to steer nations away from energy independence and strengthen Russia’s iron grip over the continent. As nations across the globe begin shunning Russian oil in response to the country’s invasion of Ukraine, U.S. leaders are also questioning how deep Russia’s ties go in the environmental community.

"The Russians actually fund some of the most rabid environmental groups in Europe because they sic them on the energy projects that aren’t Russian," James Carafano, vice president of the Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation, told Fox News Digital in a recent phone interview.

Russia duped Europe into energy dependence by funding 'rabid environmental groups': experts

European leaders have accused Russia of funding environmental groups to steer nations away from energy independence and strengthen Russia’s iron grip over the continent.

www.foxnews.com

No reason to think it isn't the envirowackos here too.

 

[Gilligan]

No reason to think it isn't the envirowackos here too.

I guarantee you the US enviro-wackos that so vigorously oppose "fossil fuels" are well funded from various directions by those that wish us nothing but ill. Many of them - the "foot soldiers" - probably have no idea how they are being manipulated.

That aside...it never ceases to amaze me to see countless citizen and government tools refer to "renewable energy" or "alternative energy" as if it is something tangible that actually exists in anything remotely close to levels required to "replace" fossil fuels. Nothing could be farther from the truth, yet nobody calls them on their eternal BS.

 

[SamSpade]

I WISH I could remember the article where I read - it was decades ago - but a Russian ambassador or Kremlin official bragged about having Europe by the balls once they're totally dependent on Russian gas - when asked, he just twisted his hand in a motion like turning off a faucet and grinned.

This CAN'T have gone unnoticed - and Germany is only now realizing, we really need to get our defense budget back where it belongs, the Russian threat IS REAL.

 

[GURPS]

the Russian threat IS REAL.

Hmm perhaps economically


Russian is a threat as long as the west keeps trying to drag Ukraine into the EU and NATO

there is NO continued reason for NATO to exist

NATO is an antique of the Cold War that no longer has a use ... let the EU form a standing Military 1


Honestly I do not see NATO getting involved in a shooting war with China if we defend Taiwan

 

[Kyle]

Honestly I do not see NATO getting involved in a shooting war with China if we defend Taiwan

If it happened now, that would end NATO faster than anything, but I disagree about NATO being scrapped.

It is the best bet for long term strength against China and the Middle-East.

Russia, with a change in government, names and attitudes, might eventually be brought into the fold of that type of NATO.

It won't happen with Mr. KGB and his minions.

 

[UglyBear]

Just you wait until it’s proven that Russians started the BLM and the trans movement.

That was their MO for the last hundred years — use as little $ as possible, inserted in the right places, to breed discontent and trouble in their adversary populations. For no other reason than just to mess with them.

 

[GURPS]

It is the best bet for long term strength against China and the Middle-East.

NATO WAS NOT Formed to Work in the Middle East or Counter China in the Pacific


Putin WANTED To Join NATO - we told him NO ... and now for 30 yrs Putin has watched NATO expand towards his borders after we told him, we would not do that

 

[GURPS]

inserted in the right places,

The KGB funded 60's era protest groups

 

[Kyle]

NATO WAS NOT Formed to Work in the Middle East or Counter China in the Pacific


Putin WANTED To Join NATO - we told him NO ... and now for 30 yrs Putin has watched NATO expand towards his borders after we told him, we would not do that

I'm well aware of what NATO was, and was not, "formed" to do.

It is an alliance, and if there is an agreed upon threat, concern or strategy, that alliance can be used for that purpose in the future. ( So long as everyone is paying their bill and putting up resources )

Putin was never trustworthy.

 

[SamSpade]

Hmm perhaps economically


Russian is a threat as long as the west keeps trying to drag Ukraine into the EU and NATO

there is NO continued reason for NATO to exist

NATO is an antique of the Cold War that no longer has a use ... let the EU form a standing Military 1


Honestly I do not see NATO getting involved in a shooting war with China if we defend Taiwan

Kind of sure that NATO was created to protect the Western World from the Soviet bloc. The images from 1968 Czechoslavakia rang loud - this could be West Germany, easy.

Well the names have changed, but it's still Russia on one side and NATO on the other except - some former members of the East Bloc countries who never wanted to be under the thumb of the Soviets wanted in. When Russia is RIGHT NEXT DOOR - the threat could come any day.

If you're not part of NATO - guess what? Russia takes Crimea. Abkhazia. South Ossetia. Donetsk. Parts of neighboring countries because they were NOT part of NATO.

If your country kept losing bits of it to Russia - wouldn't YOU want to join?

 

[UglyBear]

To put it simply, NATO was formed to counter the threat of the expanding USSR, as it was believed the small European countries were no match for the red behemoth rolling over them one by one.

To allow Russia, even post-USSR, into the alliance that was supposed to contain it would be like inviting the fox to join the chicken coup.

All the small Baltics requested to join NATO — it does not absorb counties against their will, they request to join because they fear Russia.

Same for Ukraine — they asked to join because they were afraid, rightfully, of Russian revanchism. Georgia happened very recently.

And about promises, a lot of promises were made when Ukraine gave up their nukes — and those are not worth a mouse’s fart in a hurricane.

 

[UglyBear]

Kind of sure that NATO was created to protect the Western World from the Soviet bloc. The images from 1968 Czechoslavakia rang loud - this could be West Germany, easy.

Well the names have changed, but it's still Russia on one side and NATO on the other except - some former members of the East Bloc countries who never wanted to be under the thumb of the Soviets wanted in. When Russia is RIGHT NEXT DOOR - the threat could come any day.

If you're not part of NATO - guess what? Russia takes Crimea. Abkhazia. South Ossetia. Donetsk. Parts of neighboring countries because they were NOT part of NATO.

If your country kept losing bits of it to Russia - wouldn't YOU want to join?

Funny, we said the exact same thing seconds apart.

 

[vraiblonde]

But didn't we always know that this enviro green cult was a scam?

 

[Hijinx]

Hmm perhaps economically


Russian is a threat as long as the west keeps trying to drag Ukraine into the EU and NATO

there is NO continued reason for NATO to exist

NATO is an antique of the Cold War that no longer has a use ... let the EU form a standing Military 1


Honestly I do not see NATO getting involved in a shooting war with China if we defend Taiwan

The UN is an entity that has far outlived it's usefulness. It too should be disbanded.

But didn't we always know that this enviro green cult was a scam?

When you say "WE" you are speaking of those in America who never fell for their BS, but many people did and still do. Mostly Democrats who are busy kissing this rookie Representative bartender from New York.