Russian Aid

[Scat]

You can’t change the fact that those people died due to Trumps incompetence.

 

[somdwatch]

Again 132,000 lives is more than zero even if the original projection was 350 million.
You can’t change the fact that those people died due to Trumps incompetence.

And more will continue to die as he continues to hold rallies and not socially distance or wear and mask and hope it all disappears.

Remember when he said it would disappear on its own by Easter?

But we can prove that your Masters ignored the early warnings that Our President acted on, by banning people to travel from China. If they had pulled their heads away from Impeachment and worked with the Free World Leader the country would have benefited. So keep pointing your digit at one person when the DemonRATS are more to blame for this counties woes over the last 4 years.

 

[Crabcatcher79]

And you can't change the facts the House and Democrats did absolutely nothing to prepare for a National Disaster, no matter how many times Trump warned them.

I can deny and change the fact that 132,000 lives were lost to Covid, as we can't account for 1/4 of that number being above average of any given year. BUT please provide that facts that show an additional 132,000 lives were lost this year.

I can remember democrats saying it was racist, and a hoax, and NYC keeping their kids in school, keep people on the subways going to work, and school... and going to China Town for dinner to prove they weren't racist, they even asked us to join them. They also said Trump should have blocked 43,000 American Citizens from returning to the US, as their rights didn't matter. BUT lets forget about all of that, the things that actually cost thousands of lives, and focus on what Trump may have said or not said.

You mean like open and maintain pandemic response unit until 2019 when Trump closed it?

The year isn’t over so you can’t prove less people or more people have died. All you can prove is that Trump is incompetent and said the virus would go away on its own by miracle and now we have the highest case load on the world and are banned from traveling to Europe because they decided to make a virus political.

Trump and the GOP don’t care about American lives and are willing to risk them to try to get the economy restarted.

 

[NPC]

All you can prove is that Trump is incompetent

OPINION ......

and said the virus would go away on its own by miracle

YOU are a special kind of ignorant, you should STOP getting your news from Vanity Fair

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...hey-all-laughed-when-the-president-suggested/

President Trump was ridiculed in February for suggesting that “the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus.” CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Alisyn Camerota and many others openly mocked him over his naiveté.
Well, it turns out he was right. A new study from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has shown that sunlight and humidity kills COVID-19.
At Thursday’s White House briefing, William N. Bryan, the acting undersecretary for Science and Technology at DHS, told reporters:

We’ve identified that heat and humidity is a weakness in that chain. We’ve identified that sunlight, solar light, UV rays, is a weakness in that chain. That doesn’t take away the other activities, the White House guidelines, the guidance from the CDC and others on the actions and the steps that people need to take to protect themselves. This is just another tool in our toolbox, another weapon in the fight that we can add to it. And we know that summer-like conditions are going to create an environment where the transmission can be decreased, and that’s an opportunity for us to get ahead.​

Bryan said his team has seen the “powerful effect” that solar light has on the virus “both on surfaces and in the air.” They’ve seen a similar effect with both heat and humidity.
Bryan presented a chart which shows the dramatic effect that these three variables have on the virus which can be viewed here.


Unless of course the DHS is Lying ...

and now we have the highest case load on the world and are banned from traveling to Europe because they decided to make a virus political.

Considering the POPULATION of the US that is hardly surprising

we have cities larger than some European Cities

... but HOW MANY ARE DYING ?

 

[Crabcatcher79]

OPINION ......



YOU are a special kind of ignorant, you should STOP getting your news from Vanity Fair

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...hey-all-laughed-when-the-president-suggested/

President Trump was ridiculed in February for suggesting that “the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus.” CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Alisyn Camerota and many others openly mocked him over his naiveté.
Well, it turns out he was right. A new study from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has shown that sunlight and humidity kills COVID-19.
At Thursday’s White House briefing, William N. Bryan, the acting undersecretary for Science and Technology at DHS, told reporters:

We’ve identified that heat and humidity is a weakness in that chain. We’ve identified that sunlight, solar light, UV rays, is a weakness in that chain. That doesn’t take away the other activities, the White House guidelines, the guidance from the CDC and others on the actions and the steps that people need to take to protect themselves. This is just another tool in our toolbox, another weapon in the fight that we can add to it. And we know that summer-like conditions are going to create an environment where the transmission can be decreased, and that’s an opportunity for us to get ahead.​

Bryan said his team has seen the “powerful effect” that solar light has on the virus “both on surfaces and in the air.” They’ve seen a similar effect with both heat and humidity.
Bryan presented a chart which shows the dramatic effect that these three variables have on the virus which can be viewed here.


Unless of course the DHS is Lying ...




Considering the POPULATION of the US that is hardly surprising

we have cities larger than some European Cities

... but HOW MANY ARE DYING ?

We all know the flu is less virulent in summer. No one argued differently. You are changing the argument

The virus originated in China. One of the most populous places on the planet. That’s not a very smart argument that the US has large cities.

So are you saying the virus has disappeared because it’s summer? I think the families of the sick and dead would be surprised to hear that.

Trump downplayed the seriousness. Previously closed the the pandemic office. Said the virus would disappear , continues to hold rallies , belittles scientists , touts quack cures and refuses to acknowledge reality while Americans continue to die. He has turned the virus into yet another political tool to divide the country.

 

[NPC]

Trump downplayed the seriousness.

How Would YOU Have handled it ...

Previously closed the the pandemic office.

Liar there was a consolidation of several offices

Said the virus would disappear ,

Covered already repeating the accusation does not make the FACT YOU are Lying and Wrong any less relevant.

continues to hold rallies

So What ? AntiFA continues to RIOT ......

belittles scientists

Oh Poor Baby Was Trump Critical of Some Scientist

touts quack cures

Which one is a quack ?

UV Light - Yep Proven True
Disinfectant - Proven True
HydroxyChloroquine - Proven an Effective Treatment ...

and refuses to acknowledge reality while Americans continue to die.

Which Reality ? YOUR Progressive Fantasy Reality ?

He has turned the virus into yet another political tool to divide the country.

NO Democrats did that back when Trump wanted a Chinese Travel Ban, Democrats could not rush to the Press Fast enough to call Trump a Racist


What Trump said about disinfectants

After Bryan’s presentation, Trump floated the idea of using disinfectants to treat COVID-19 patients. He did not say Americans should ingest chemicals to prevent or treat the virus.

Here’s the full context:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."

It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters.



Firm tests UV light treatment that Trump was mocked for mentioning

President Trump has been mocked relentlessly for suggesting that ultraviolet light could be brought “inside the body” to kill the coronavirus, but there is ongoing research to do just that.

For example, the pharmaceutical firm Aytu BioScience announced on April 20, four days before the Trump remarks, that it has signed an exclusive licensing deal with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The center has developed and is testing a UV-A “Healight” designed to be inserted via a catheter inside the trachea to kill pathogens, including the coronavirus.

Ultraviolet, or UV, light is commonly used by physicians to treat skin diseases. Cedars-Sinai says UV-A phototherapy potentially could be employed in internal organs.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

COVID-19: Hydroxychloroquine Effectiveness Data From France

 

[Crabcatcher79]

How Would YOU Have handled it ...



Liar there was a consolidation of several offices



Covered already repeating the accusation does not make the FACT YOU are Lying and Wrong any less relevant.



So What ? AntiFA continues to RIOT ......



Oh Poor Baby Was Trump Critical of Some Scientist



Which one is a quack ?

UV Light - Yep Proven True
Disinfectant - Proven True
HydroxyChloroquine - Proven an Effective Treatment ...




Which Reality ? YOUR Progressive Fantasy Reality ?



NO Democrats did that back when Trump wanted a Chinese Travel Ban, Democrats could not rush to the Press Fast enough to call Trump a Racist


What Trump said about disinfectants

After Bryan’s presentation, Trump floated the idea of using disinfectants to treat COVID-19 patients. He did not say Americans should ingest chemicals to prevent or treat the virus.

Here’s the full context:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."

It’s not clear what part of that discussion he was characterizing as a "sarcastic question" to reporters.



Firm tests UV light treatment that Trump was mocked for mentioning

President Trump has been mocked relentlessly for suggesting that ultraviolet light could be brought “inside the body” to kill the coronavirus, but there is ongoing research to do just that.

For example, the pharmaceutical firm Aytu BioScience announced on April 20, four days before the Trump remarks, that it has signed an exclusive licensing deal with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The center has developed and is testing a UV-A “Healight” designed to be inserted via a catheter inside the trachea to kill pathogens, including the coronavirus.

Ultraviolet, or UV, light is commonly used by physicians to treat skin diseases. Cedars-Sinai says UV-A phototherapy potentially could be employed in internal organs.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

COVID-19: Hydroxychloroquine Effectiveness Data From France

Is your whole face brown from digging up trumps butt or just your nose?

Did the virus disappear by Easter?


“The Trump administration disbanded the National Security Council's pandemic response office in 2018 -- and now, on the defensive after a failed response to the coronavirus pandemic, they are planning to launch a similar office at the State Department.

The National Security Council hosted an interagency meeting Thursday to discuss the plans for the office, which will fall under the leadership of a new position: coordinator for pandemics, a senior administration official said.

The goal of Thursday's meeting was to flush out the details and establish a proposal for President Donald Trump to approve -- but the push to start a new office has drawn criticism from health experts and former officials, some of whom question whether this new unit is being located at the State Department, and not the NSC, simply to differentiate from the Obama administration effort”


Feel free to invest bleach if you believe it is an effective treatment.

Trump administration moves ahead with plan to open new pandemic office as coronavirus crisis intensifies

The Trump administration disbanded the National Security Council's pandemic response office in 2018 -- and now, on the defensive after a failed response to the coronavirus pandemic, they are planning to launch a similar office at the State Department.

www.cnn.com

A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus

The federal coronavirus response shows a president dead set on avoiding responsibility for the pandemic.

www.vox.com

 

[SamSpade]

Wow. I started this thread this morning about the whole idiotic "the Russians are paying bounties to the Taliban" - and in just a few posts, everyone's talking about da Corona.

Just to get back - I read this morning that Afghanistan is far and away the world's supplier of opium - guesstimate was somewhere between 70-90% of the world supply. The Taliban aren't GROWING opium poppies - they're smuggling and getting a portion of the overall profit, which can be in the low BILLIONS. Their next largest source of money is, Pakistan, or more precisely, the ISI, and they do that in a myriad number of ways - networks, safe havens and so forth. After that, not surprisingly, Iran.

But they still have to GET arms from somewhere, and the Russians have been doing that for almost two decades (and Iran). To the tune of billions in arms. The Taliban do also get weapons stolen from Americans. Seriously, how does ANY group sustain a war for 18 years unless someone is bankrolling them?

So if bounties were being offered - so the hell what? Even IF true, somehow they're not taking the lives of any MORE Americans, because yearly deaths are below a typical weekend in Chicago. You'd think death tolls would be going UP - but they're not. Secondly - IF true - what do you suggest? Wear better armor? Apply MORE sanctions on Russia? The problem with that is, it's been tried so very often that Russia is by now EXTREMELY adept at enduring and dodging virtually everything thrown at it. When we apply more, they go somewhere else - they aren't dependent on us.

Lastly - this is America's longest war. We don't have any real reason to be there anymore, except to prevent yet ANOTHER safe haven for terrorism. Should we remain there, or get the hell out? The Dems on the House ASC just voted to KEEP TRUMP from withdrawing troops.

https://mcusercontent.com/301a28247...edium=email&utm_term=0_38d91d4596-da6dc54a60-

What the hell? Should we be there or not?

 

[Hijinx]

Wow. I started this thread this morning about the whole idiotic "the Russians are paying bounties to the Taliban" - and in just a few posts, everyone's talking about da Corona.

Just to get back - I read this morning that Afghanistan is far and away the world's supplier of opium - guesstimate was somewhere between 70-90% of the world supply. The Taliban aren't GROWING opium poppies - they're smuggling and getting a portion of the overall profit, which can be in the low BILLIONS. Their next largest source of money is, Pakistan, or more precisely, the ISI, and they do that in a myriad number of ways - networks, safe havens and so forth. After that, not surprisingly, Iran.

But they still have to GET arms from somewhere, and the Russians have been doing that for almost two decades (and Iran). To the tune of billions in arms. The Taliban do also get weapons stolen from Americans. Seriously, how does ANY group sustain a war for 18 years unless someone is bankrolling them?

So if bounties were being offered - so the hell what? Even IF true, somehow they're not taking the lives of any MORE Americans, because yearly deaths are below a typical weekend in Chicago. You'd think death tolls would be going UP - but they're not. Secondly - IF true - what do you suggest? Wear better armor? Apply MORE sanctions on Russia? The problem with that is, it's been tried so very often that Russia is by now EXTREMELY adept at enduring and dodging virtually everything thrown at it. When we apply more, they go somewhere else - they aren't dependent on us.

Lastly - this is America's longest war. We don't have any real reason to be there anymore, except to prevent yet ANOTHER safe haven for terrorism. Should we remain there, or get the hell out? The Dems on the House ASC just voted to KEEP TRUMP from withdrawing troops.

https://mcusercontent.com/301a28247...edium=email&utm_term=0_38d91d4596-da6dc54a60-

What the hell? Should we be there or not?

We should not be there, and the Democrats will and have voted against anything the President does, so it's not surprising if he wants them home the Democrats want them to stay and be slaughtered.
Of course they are not being slaughtered just killed at times, but if they were being slaughtered the Democrats who voted for them to stay there would blame trump for not removing them.

Get the idea?

 

[Crabcatcher79]

Wow. I started this thread this morning about the whole idiotic "the Russians are paying bounties to the Taliban" - and in just a few posts, everyone's talking about da Corona.

Just to get back - I read this morning that Afghanistan is far and away the world's supplier of opium - guesstimate was somewhere between 70-90% of the world supply. The Taliban aren't GROWING opium poppies - they're smuggling and getting a portion of the overall profit, which can be in the low BILLIONS. Their next largest source of money is, Pakistan, or more precisely, the ISI, and they do that in a myriad number of ways - networks, safe havens and so forth. After that, not surprisingly, Iran.

But they still have to GET arms from somewhere, and the Russians have been doing that for almost two decades (and Iran). To the tune of billions in arms. The Taliban do also get weapons stolen from Americans. Seriously, how does ANY group sustain a war for 18 years unless someone is bankrolling them?

So if bounties were being offered - so the hell what? Even IF true, somehow they're not taking the lives of any MORE Americans, because yearly deaths are below a typical weekend in Chicago. You'd think death tolls would be going UP - but they're not. Secondly - IF true - what do you suggest? Wear better armor? Apply MORE sanctions on Russia? The problem with that is, it's been tried so very often that Russia is by now EXTREMELY adept at enduring and dodging virtually everything thrown at it. When we apply more, they go somewhere else - they aren't dependent on us.

Lastly - this is America's longest war. We don't have any real reason to be there anymore, except to prevent yet ANOTHER safe haven for terrorism. Should we remain there, or get the hell out? The Dems on the House ASC just voted to KEEP TRUMP from withdrawing troops.

https://mcusercontent.com/301a28247...edium=email&utm_term=0_38d91d4596-da6dc54a60-

What the hell? Should we be there or not?

Again you miss the point.

know 3 marines were killed in an car bombing In March after which Russia sent the Taliban a cash reward.
Trump has repeatedly defended Putin and spoken about his admiration for him despite knowing he is paying bonuses for killing Americans.
We can not tolerate a president who is complicit in rewarding the deaths of American military no matter how you chose to dismiss or excuse it.

 

[SamSpade]

We should not be there, and the Democrats will and have voted against anything the President does, so it's not surprising if he wants them home the Democrats want them to stay and be slaughtered.
Of course they are not being slaughtered just killed at times, but if they were being slaughtered the Democrats who voted for them to stay there would blame trump for not removing them.

Get the idea?

It sort of DOES suggest that if there were a THREAT from Russian bounties, the prudent thing to do would be to get the hell out NOW.
So - IF it is true - what do the Dems suggest we do in response? I'm still waiting for that. All I hear is political jabber. Otherwise, crickets.

 

[itsbob]

You mean like open and maintain pandemic response unit until 2019 when Trump closed it?

The year isn’t over so you can’t prove less people or more people have died. All you can prove is that Trump is incompetent and said the virus would go away on its own by miracle and now we have the highest case load on the world and are banned from traveling to Europe because they decided to make a virus political.

Trump and the GOP don’t care about American lives and are willing to risk them to try to get the economy restarted.

You REALLY can't be this stupid and remember how to breathe..

 

[itsbob]

Again 132,000 lives is more than zero even if the original projection was 350 million.
You can’t change the fact that those people died due to Trumps incompetence.

And more will continue to die as he continues to hold rallies and not socially distance or wear and mask and hope it all disappears.

Remember when he said it would disappear on its own by Easter?

And you expected ZERO deaths from this virus if somebody else was in charge?

Are you really that brain dead?

You think if Biden was in charge there would be significantly less?? Or do you believe the media would be honest and just report those that actually had died from COVID??

 

[SkylarkTempest]

You don't math well do you!?? 1323k have died from Covid (supposedly).. but our annual amount of deaths in 2020 is NOT 132k more than average, not even close..

But...data.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

For fun, I looked at each week and found the difference between the average number of deaths and the weighted total tally. Then I took the sum. Data's weird, man. Numbers... Like, totally.

 

[Scat]

But...data.
For fun, I looked at each week and found the difference between the average number of deaths and the weighted total tally. Then I took the sum. Data's weird, man. Numbers... Like, totally.

And youre such a genius that you only repeated the CDC graph? So where’s the data that proves each reported case was covid related and not just reported as such?

 

[Kyle]

 

[Kyle]

 

[Crabcatcher79]

You REALLY can't be this stupid and remember how to breathe..
[/QUOT

And you expected ZERO deaths from this virus if somebody else was in charge?

Are you really that brain dead?

You think if Biden was in charge there would be significantly less?? Or do you believe the media would be honest and just report those that actually had died from COVID??

I dont think Biden would have closed the pandemic response unit that he and Obama created.

I dont think Biden would have made states bid against one another for PPE and provide no clear oversight or guidelines for states to manage the pandemic.


I dont think Biden would have called it a hoax, said it would disappear by Easter, say he didnt even know people died from the Flu, suggest ingesting bleach, or tout unproven drugs.

I believe Biden would also have an idea of how vaccines work unlike Trump and Biden would allow experts to give advice rather than always wanting to be right like Trump.


So yes. I believe we would have far fewer cases if we didn't have an incompetent egomaniac in charge,

 

[GURPS]

Trump Never Called Covid-19 a Hoax

 

[CPUSA]

Damn Crotch Crabby...could you possibly spew anything that is more retarded?
You're living proof that Gates' vaccines cause Autism...