School Uniforms....what do you think?

[nitwhit3286]

Has anyone ever considered teaching children the benefits of intrinsic rewards?

well lets hear it greyhound...oh and by the way..aren't you the one that is all involved with dancing and your daughter is in ballet this and ballet that.. I took dance for over 9 years..... classes are expensive..the dance shoes are expensive, costumes are expensive...is that what you consider an intrinsic reward?

 

[sockgirl77]

I said I will reward good grades with clothes...coach bags..whatever she wants..there is nothing wrong with rewarding good grades? After 18 or 21..kids have the rest of their lives to work hard..so why make it a struggle when they are young? Socki.. you are foolish if you aren't planning on giving you children some of their wants..they didn't ask to be born... they didn't ask to be brought on to this earth so you could deny them of things.... you are a cold and bitter soul.

I see nothing wrong with giving in to your child's wants. That's what birthdays are for. However, there is no need to give them everything that they want all damn year. They need to learn to earn.
And no, I am not a cold and bitter soul. Just not materialistic. :shrug:

 

[kwillia]

she is still bitter......by far..... and she keeps bringing up hollister... I am sorry but hollister is not expensive compared to other brands.. hahah!!!

I agree she comes across as a bitter and jealous person in general, but I don't believe that it has to define her as a parent. I will hold the faith that she will mature and adjust with time and age as we all do. Heck, her oldest is only two... she has no clue yet whether or not he will be interested in $150 basketball shoes or not at this point. Only time will tell and she'll deal with it when she has to....:shrug:

 

[sockgirl77]

I am sorry but hollister is not expensive compared to other brands.. hahah!!!

This is exactly my point. I pray that my children do not end up as snobby as you.

 

[greyhound]

well lets hear it greyhound...oh and by the way..aren't you the one that is all involved with dancing and your daughter is in ballet this and ballet that.. I took dance for over 9 years..... classes are expensive..the dance shoes are expensive, costumes are expensive...is that what you consider an intrinsic reward?

The intrinsic reward comes from hard work. Not quite sure how ballet fits into this debate. Oh....yes ballet is very expensive and my daughters reward for hard work...several scholarships that cover her ballet training.

 

[mehlert74]

I think all schools should have a dress code to a certain extent. I remember going to a few of my son's after school activities, and seeing the way some of the girls dress is unbelievible, and the boys are just as bad. In my day If i got caught wearing half of the things that these kids wear today, teachers would have called the parent and told them you had to pick them up or bring a change of clothes. These kids, and I will say parents too, think that school is a fashion statement, and that is not what it is supposed to be like. I have no problem with Name brand clothes, but make sure they are appropriate, and most are not. but then you also have the issue, where your kids look nice in the morning, but half the time they have a change of clothes in their book bags so that the child can change into the inappropriate outfit once in school. I have been saying for a while i think the schools need a dress code that must be enforced and mandatory, but I think it should be in the Junior high and High school, elementary there doesn't seem to be as big of a problem with how the kids are dressed. I'm all for it

 

[itsbob]

More important, actually.

All those smart doctors from foreign countries, and page after page of forum posts complaining that none of them speak good enough English to understand, therefore they make their patients uncomfortable and lose business.

Pretty smart, huh?

Yep, considering we have NO choice but to go see the doctors that can barely speak English, and have terrible customer relations.. No matter how bad they are, I don't read where any of them are going out of business and going home.


People can write complaint after complaint on the forum, but at the end of the day their family is still going to Habib (or his brother or sister) for their healthcare.

 

[bresamil]

Well after reading all of this....
I am proud to say I have never heard of "Hollister" jeans.

My children don't ask for specific brand name anything. Exception is Boy 1 that likes a particular brand of jeans - they are not popular or cool jeans, they just fit him better than any other brand and they are not expensive in the least.

Although we do not have a uniform where I work, I am surrounded by professionals earning 6 figures a year and we do have a "dress code" that must be followed.

Most of my 6 figure coworkers, during stressful days, walk around saying "Welcome to Walmart" and "Want fries with that" because to them, those are stressfree joyful jobs. Proof that many humans just aren't happy as long as they have to work, the grass is greener on the other side of the fence (in one's mind), and happiness cannot be bought with a big paycheck.

Boy 1 is on the new dress code committee at high school. They are talking about generic uniforms. It is hard to enforce the dress code when you call the parent because their daughter is in hoochie wear, and the mother walks in to get her wearing an outfit that makes her daughter's look like a nun's habit.

 

[sockgirl77]

Yep, considering we have NO choice but to go see the doctors that can barely speak English, and have terrible customer relations.. No matter how bad they are, I don't read where any of them are going out of business and going home.


People can write complaint after complaint on the forum, but at the end of the day their family is still going to Habib (or his brother or sister) for their healthcare.

Sounds like someone else other than me has had issues with Shah Associates.

 

[RoseRed]

Well after reading all of this....
I am proud to say I have never heard of "Hollister" jeans.

Me neither. Everytime I see the brand, I think of Hollister, California.

 

[mehlert74]

I see nothing wrong with giving in to your child's wants. That's what birthdays are for. However, there is no need to give them everything that they want all damn year. They need to learn to earn.
And no, I am not a cold and bitter soul. Just not materialistic. :shrug:

I agree with you. I do not believe in rewarding my children for doing what is expected of them, they need to learn responibility and if you reward them every good, grade, cleaning their room, or what not, they are going to grow up thinking that they get paid or rewarded for something that is expected out of them through life. They need to learn that these are expectations, not choices, but more demands. This is life and this is how it is....I don't get paid for raising my kids, I chose to have them, and it is my responsibility to raise them!! Very good point you made.

 

[greyhound]

I agree with you. I do not believe in rewarding my children for doing what is expected of them, they need to learn responibility and if you reward them every good, grade, cleaning their room, or what not, they are going to grow up thinking that they get paid or rewarded for something that is expected out of them through life. They need to learn that these are expectations, not choices, but more demands. This is life and this is how it is....I don't get paid for raising my kids, I chose to have them, and it is my responsibility to raise them!! Very good point you made.

 

[sockgirl77]

I agree she comes across as a bitter and jealous person in general, but I don't believe that it has to define her as a parent. I will hold the faith that she will mature and adjust with time and age as we all do. Heck, her oldest is only two... she has no clue yet whether or not he will be interested in $150 basketball shoes or not at this point. Only time will tell and she'll deal with it when she has to....:shrug:

I just whine too damn much. I am working on it. I really am. Maybe Florida will help.

 

[Bustem' Down]

I'm not against Uniforms, but I'm in the military, so I might be biased.

 

[K_Jo]

I wore a uniform to school up until high school, when I thought I'd be very excited to wear whatever I wanted to, but I ended up missing the uniform. So much easier. I'd like to have a uniform to wear to work. Something velour maybe.

 

[kwillia]

I just whine too damn much. I am working on it. I really am. Maybe Florida will help.

You are still new at the 'mom' thing. Your kids will develop a sense of style all on their own. As parents, we can provide guidelines and some influence, but we don't get to decide whether or not our boy will become macho, redneck, goth, or metrosexual. Will our girl end up being a tomboy or will she mimic an add from Abercrombie and Fitch... :shrug: We find out as they grow up.

My daughter was in 3rd grade when I brought home some cute spring outfits only to be told she really didn't like them and could she go pick out her own clothes. She didn't go back looking for designer or expensive stuff. She picked out things that she felt comfortable in and made her feel like 'her'. It was an eye opening moment for me.

 

[vraiblonde]

This is my point exactly. Kids need to be raised to work hard. Hope your kid's Hollister jeans help spell 3 letter words.

Okay, now THAT was priceless

 

[The Jackoholic]

Well after reading all of this....
I am proud to say I have never heard of "Hollister" jeans.

My children don't ask for specific brand name anything. Exception is Boy 1 that likes a particular brand of jeans - they are not popular or cool jeans, they just fit him better than any other brand and they are not expensive in the least.

Although we do not have a uniform where I work, I am surrounded by professionals earning 6 figures a year and we do have a "dress code" that must be followed.

Most of my 6 figure coworkers, during stressful days, walk around saying "Welcome to Walmart" and "Want fries with that" because to them, those are stressfree joyful jobs. Proof that many humans just aren't happy as long as they have to work, the grass is greener on the other side of the fence (in one's mind), and happiness cannot be bought with a big paycheck.

Boy 1 is on the new dress code committee at high school. They are talking about generic uniforms. It is hard to enforce the dress code when you call the parent because their daughter is in hoochie wear, and the mother walks in to get her wearing an outfit that makes her daughter's look like a nun's habit.

this is what I was getting at as far as what is appropriate and who has the right to judge. One parent may think the student is dressed like a whore and another like a princess, uniforms will take all that away and when you look at her then all you will see is a student

 

[mkd20012001]

this is what I was getting at as far as what is appropriate and who has the right to judge. One parent may think the student is dressed like a whore and another like a princess, uniforms will take all that away and when you look at her then all you will see is a student

yeah and then we won't be able to tell the good parents from the bad parents.

 

[juggy4805]

this is what I was getting at as far as what is appropriate and who has the right to judge. One parent may think the student is dressed like a whore and another like a princess, uniforms will take all that away and when you look at her then all you will see is a student

What does that help though?