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crazykitty
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He needs to have his head bashed in with a mallet!
Bay_Kat
Tropical
Roman
Active Member
Just reading the title...I can't read it. BUT...if it involves Animal Cruelty, as the title suggests, I believe in an eye for an eye.
crazykitty
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"Calvert Man Sentenced for Cat's Death - Southern Maryland News
An Owings man who allegedly struck his family’s cat with a mallet was sentenced to three years in jail Monday, May 6 in Calvert County Circuit Court. In sentencing the defendant— John Gregory Hayden Jr., 31—Judge E. Gregory “Greg” Wells suspended all but 120 days of the sentence and ordered five years of supervised probation and 100 hours of community service.
Hayden will also need to successfully complete an anger management program. Wells stated that while Hayden’s community service will be the purview of parole and probation officials, he (Wells) felt the defendant’s service should be spent at a facility that aids domestic animals, such as a shelter. The judge added that he would consider modifying Hayden’s sentence to unsupervised probation provided he completed all the mandatory programs successfully. "
The ****tard was sentenced for this yesterday and jail time was reduced to 120 days with 5 years probation and 100 hours of community service. Now the judge is suggesting that he perform his community service in a animal shelter???!!! :/ He should not be allowed near animals.
An Owings man who allegedly struck his family’s cat with a mallet was sentenced to three years in jail Monday, May 6 in Calvert County Circuit Court. In sentencing the defendant— John Gregory Hayden Jr., 31—Judge E. Gregory “Greg” Wells suspended all but 120 days of the sentence and ordered five years of supervised probation and 100 hours of community service.
Hayden will also need to successfully complete an anger management program. Wells stated that while Hayden’s community service will be the purview of parole and probation officials, he (Wells) felt the defendant’s service should be spent at a facility that aids domestic animals, such as a shelter. The judge added that he would consider modifying Hayden’s sentence to unsupervised probation provided he completed all the mandatory programs successfully. "
The ****tard was sentenced for this yesterday and jail time was reduced to 120 days with 5 years probation and 100 hours of community service. Now the judge is suggesting that he perform his community service in a animal shelter???!!! :/ He should not be allowed near animals.
sockgirl77
Well-Known Member
I take it that you have not seen judges give reduced sentences before? It's the norm in this area, especially when it comes to drug and/or alcohol related crimes.
Maybe he'll develop an appreciation for animals if he's forced to do his community service being surrounded by them.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Actually, it's the norm in the state, and in most states. They give a full sentence, then suspend part of it. If he re-offends, he could face the rest of the time in prison.
I think this is a good incentive for first time offenders. But I have a problem when it's used for someone who has already had their chance to get their crap together.
This guy had his chance. He gets to go back to court tomorrow for a violation of probation hearing on an assault charge. That should get him an additional 4 months. I don't understand why it seems like a good idea to take someone who is already on probation and sentence them to more probation.
As far as him working in a shelter, I think it's a great idea. Preferably in August when it's really hot and sticky, and have him clean up crap all day. Or express anal glands. Or be the person who verifies that the vicious dogs are really vicious. Lots of really nasty jobs he could do.
Give him a shovel and let him muck stalls...of cows.....24/7, with no boots or gloves, in July and August.
Dakota
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So when he gets his testicles ripped off he can sue to government. Animals can sense things like hatred for them. I just don't want to read in the paper that this idiot gets a huge settlement down the road.
I do, however, agree with you that since probation didn't work for him the 1st time.... he shouldn't be given the opportunity to try again.
crazykitty
New Member
I do not think people like this ever develop an appreciation for animals unfortunately
I just have a soft spot for animals and this kind of stuff just really upsets me. That cat had no way of defending himself, just got struck in the head by a mallet cause he had a bathroom accident. Normally there is a reason why that happens and if it is a behavior problem, then find a new home, give back to rescue etc. Don't hit him with a mallet. I hope he does not have kids and they make him mad....Just my opinion
I think it takes a special kind of mental case to hurt anything that's helpless, be it a cat or a child. I'd give these people the death penalty because it's clear to me that they have pretty severe issues that will likely never be resolved.
What I definitely wouldn't do is put them in a care environment. To me the sentence for this guy is the same as taking a baby killer and making them work in a daycare. Ridiculous.
What I definitely wouldn't do is put them in a care environment. To me the sentence for this guy is the same as taking a baby killer and making them work in a daycare. Ridiculous.
slotpuppy
Ass-hole
MMDad
Lem Putt
I don't see this as a "care" environment. Somebody has to clean up the crap. Somebody has to get rid of the bodies of the animals that are euthanized. I see it as the difference between working in a nursing home or a morgue.
Besides, when he does his community service while on probation the people at the shelter can report back on his demeanor. If he shows up and does anything to make them uncomfortable, they can send him away. That seems like a good indicator for Judge Wells to consider if he modifies the sentence.
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
Granted a mallet or a hammer may not be the best, or cleanest way to do this..
But does anyone know if the cat actually suffered, or did it die immediately?
I KNOW I'm going to catch hell for this, but being the devil's advocate here, where was the cruelty??
Would it have been less cruel to shoot the cat, or cut off it's head with a cleaver? Or an injection been the preferred method?
My point being, it's a cat, it's still an animal.. if he had skinned it alive, or set it on fire and watched it die, THAT would be cruelty.. If he hit it in the head with a hammer, or mallet and it died instantly, other than the poor choice of tool or method, where is the cruelty?
I know a lot of you are pet owners, cat people, and "cat parents".. but in the end would it have mattered if he chose a different tool? Or a different animal? If it was his cat, and not your cat, again, where is the cruelty?
But does anyone know if the cat actually suffered, or did it die immediately?
I KNOW I'm going to catch hell for this, but being the devil's advocate here, where was the cruelty??
Would it have been less cruel to shoot the cat, or cut off it's head with a cleaver? Or an injection been the preferred method?
My point being, it's a cat, it's still an animal.. if he had skinned it alive, or set it on fire and watched it die, THAT would be cruelty.. If he hit it in the head with a hammer, or mallet and it died instantly, other than the poor choice of tool or method, where is the cruelty?
I know a lot of you are pet owners, cat people, and "cat parents".. but in the end would it have mattered if he chose a different tool? Or a different animal? If it was his cat, and not your cat, again, where is the cruelty?
Dakota
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Would you have felt the same way if this was a dog?
It's the act of beating the cat to death that is disturbing. There are any number of ways to get rid of an unwanted cat besides beating it with a croquet mallet. This was an act of anger and says something about this guy beyond what he did to the cat.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Yep..
Some animals, including dogs and cats, need to die.
Some people have feral cat problems, and can't shoot them as their neighbors are too close.. poison would be too cruel, and may kill more than your intended target,.
If a feral cat was wandering around my property I could probably shoot it, not so much if you live on GMR.. and if and when we have chickens, I see a cat chasing after my chickens on my property, that cat will probably die.
Basically what the court is saying, is killing an animal is cruel..
So when are we going to line up all the local pig farmers, and cow farmers.. and chicken farmers and send them all to jail??
Dakota
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I agree with V on this.... his act was an act of anger... not for the purpose of food, not to protect food, but just pure lashing out of sorts and I am also in the opinion that what one could do to an animal in anger, he'd do to a human. Now granted... this isn't the same incident like the Craig's list one where the man was torturing animals for pleasure but his actions are still cruel.
