Second Massively Expensive "destroyer" leaves BIW

[Gilligan]

Expensive son-of-a-guns...


http://www.sunjournal.com/second-biw-built-stealthy-destroyer-heads-out-to-sea-for-first-time/

 

[b23hqb]

My ship, USS Worden DLG/CG-18 was built at BIW between 1960 and 61, and only cost about 36 mil to build, not counting later upgrades. What an increase in weaponry and design costs today is mind-boggling.

 

[Monello]

What an increase in weaponry and design costs today is mind-boggling.

It's all those $600 toilet seats.

 

[b23hqb]

It's all those $600 toilet seats.

For the officers and gentleman, maybe, but not for the enlisted folk.

 

[Kyle]

For the officers and gentleman, maybe, but not for the enlisted folk.

Enlisted use the Poop Deck?

 

[MADPEBS1]

https://news.usni.org/2016/03/03/ne...st-reduces-ships-stealth-from-original-design

HUMMMMMM, i wonder if they have come to PAX for any testing ;-) ?????

 

[GURPS]

What an increase in weaponry and design costs today is mind-boggling.

Not Really, it is all the overhead - aka paperwork to prove you are not ripping off the Gov.

 

[b23hqb]

Enlisted use the Poop Deck?

Enlisted have our own poop decks, and they are certainly not stealth seats.:

 

[b23hqb]

Not Really, it is all the overhead - aka paperwork to prove you are not ripping off the Gov.

Even accounting for a 55 year gap with inflation and increased salary, I doubt that overhead is, by far, the only reason for an about 75X increase in cost. Things are a bit pricey these days, for sure.

 

[TWL]

Even accounting for a 55 year gap with inflation and increased salary, I doubt that overhead is, by far, the only reason for an about 75X increase in cost. Things are a bit pricey these days, for sure.

Cutting the order from about 32 down to 3 probably has some to do with the cost. A good portion of R&D would have been spread across all ships; now only 3.

 

[b23hqb]

Cutting the order from about 32 down to 3 probably has some to do with the cost. A good portion of R&D would have been spread across all ships; now only 3.

Yeah - but three billion per? That's a lot of money, and I hope we get our money's worth out of them.

 

[GURPS]

Things are a bit pricey these days, for sure.

Indeed, I over simplified a bit

cost of materials
cost of labor
more expensive system - everything is computerized these days

IMHO after all the rage over 50k toilet seats etc .... the cost of the bureaucracy tacked on has to be enormous

oh the frick'en Zumwalt Class ...
Oh Yeah a cluster fuk of epic proportions


http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-dumbed-down-zumwalts-and-their-ammoless-guns

 

[stgislander]

Cutting the order from about 32 down to 3 probably has some to do with the cost. A good portion of R&D would have been spread across all ships; now only 3.

Along with that, I seem to recall that the hi-tech "smart" munitions for the deck guns became too expensive for just three ships, so the Navy had to scramble to find a traditional munition for replacement.

 

[b23hqb]

Indeed, I over simplified a bit

cost of materials
cost of labor
more expensive system - everything is computerized these days

IMHO after all the rage over 50k toilet seats etc .... the cost of the bureaucracy tacked on has to be enormous

oh the frick'en Zumwalt Class ...
Oh Yeah a cluster fuk of epic proportions


http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-dumbed-down-zumwalts-and-their-ammoless-guns

Good article, and the main thing I get out of it is that the Navy doesn't really know what to do with these ships, and they currently don't really know what they want to do with these $4 billion "assets". What a conundrum.

FUBAR, for sure. All political, of course.

 

[GURPS]

Along with that, I seem to recall that the hi-tech "smart" munitions for the deck guns became too expensive for just three ships, so the Navy had to scramble to find a traditional munition for replacement.

yeah with the cut backs the shells were going to cost $ 800k each

 

[stgislander]

yeah with the cut backs the shells were going to cost $ 800k each

 

[b23hqb]

yeah with the cut backs the shells were going to cost $ 800k each

Just a bit pricey, ya think? There will be no practice plinking with those things.