Secret Sevice Comments

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Interesting insights into the everyday "goings on" that we can only speculate about. I can hear the "Hillary" behind closed doors! enjoy this bit of personal observations and be thankful that regardless of who may lead our country, they still earn the best efforts of the secret service

Subject: SECRET SERVICE COMMENTS:

Here're some of the reasons Bush got reelected and won more popular votes than any other president ever has.

[Dave Kulow] We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane ...... yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ol boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate. Bush 41 and the current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the aircrews who fly them around [When the president flies, there are several planes that also go -- one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft] and both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so these Air Force and security people could have a day with their families. WHAT WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS

WHAT WAS:

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She prohibited her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but
did not like her. Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and wanted to be on a different detail. She was hard work because she was so nasty and mean toward her detail. Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife
Hillary. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attack antics that Hillary would use against her husband, the then President. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream
and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most people wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other and was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience." Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have "charisma," and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. They did respect him, unlike his wife, but they did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him. He was polite, but not kind.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not just politically
opposed, to Republicans than Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This bitter hatred was something that he and Hillary had very much in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities where Al
Gore and Hillary had none in the view of their security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them in disgust as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion when Al Gore got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their presence, pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?" Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the former Vice-president quickly spread and he became as despised and disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would not be elected President and they really did have private small celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to
celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat. He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind person. That he could have been our President may suggest that God was "answering prayers" and looking out for the country with Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS:

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps the most nice kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love her as a human being. They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North." Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps in serving them their meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers, and he of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and most of them did not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed
in the time that he has been President. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
I once read that when Bill was first elected, Hillary tried to hand her purse to the agent responsible for protecting her. When he replied that he could not carry the bag because his hands had to be free if needed for her protection, she snapped at him, "What the **** good are you then" and stormed away......agent right behind her. Effing losers. :burning:
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
Mikeinsmd said:
I once read that when Bill was first elected, Hillary tried to hand her purse to the agent responsible for protecting her. When he replied that he could not carry the bag because his hands had to be free if needed for her protection, she snapped at him, "What the **** good are you then" and stormed away......agent right behind her. Effing losers. :burning:
Penn, What the source of this?

Mom works for the Secret Service. It is an unwritten rule that they don't talk about current charges. Former ones, yes, but not current ones. The Clintons are still under their protection. Although retired agents have been known to write books on the subject, I doubt any agents are giving first hand accounts of the GWB detail. BBQs and such may have been reported on by reporters, but if the Bushes are having knock down-drag outs in the Residence, no one is going to hear about it.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Dymphna said:
Penn, What the source of this?

Mom works for the Secret Service. It is an unwritten rule that they don't talk about current charges. Former ones, yes, but not current ones. The Clintons are still under their protection. Although retired agents have been known to write books on the subject, I doubt any agents are giving first hand accounts of the GWB detail. BBQs and such may have been reported on by reporters, but if the Bushes are having knock down-drag outs in the Residence, no one is going to hear about it.
It is from a website in Texas. A retired Air Force LtCol runs it, and he sent it on to me this morning. It does not reference a specific article or URL.
I have heard the same sort of comments from a neighbor who used to live down the street from me who, while hewas not a Secret Service agent himself, but did some staff work at the White House a few years back. He did know some of these agents and that was also recanted to me as well.

I'll query my friend in Texas and see if he can get me the article from which it originates.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
I must say it all certainly sounds like it could be true. I certainly WANT it to be true, because the reports reflect my assessment of the people named. Thanks VERY much for sharing this! :yay:
 
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baswm

Guest
Railroad said:
I must say it all certainly sounds like it could be true. I certainly WANT it to be true, because the reports reflect my assessment of the people named. Thanks VERY much for sharing this! :yay:

:yeahthat:
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I used to play softball with a guy who worked at the White House. The depiction of Hillary is consistent with his - he often told stories where the Clintons were still in their limo, because Hillary was busy screaming at Bill, while the limo driver and Secret Service waited patiently for them to emerge. This was long before Monica.

The stories of W are similarly familiar. I used to know a man online a couple years back who worked on presidential campaigns and met W during his father's two presidential runs, and again during Dole's run for office. (W wasn't in any office, then). He was impressed by the fact that W *always* remembered him, his name, and details about him, even when it had been four years since the last meeting. On one occasion, they sat together and W discussed at length his Christian beliefs (my online friend is a devout Christian) and conversion.

I found it interesting that this guy found him so immensely friendly, personable, and able to discuss his life. Of course, all during that time, W was just "the president's son" and wasn't even Governor then. But it comes as no surprise.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
I e-mailed my buddy in Texas, asking about this, and he told me it was sent to him as an attachment - not part of a published article.

His guess is that it is the recollection of some retired agents; that he himself has heard the same comments from people he knew who worked at the White House years ago.

Interesting reading, nonetheless.
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
Nobody minds saying nice things about people, even current charges. Speaking badly isn't condoned, but remember you're talking about a couple of class A a-holes here. I worked with a guy who was a member of Hillary's detail, and all he could ever talk about was how bad her cankles were.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
All of this is totally believable but let's remember:

Former Lt. Colonel Bill Burkett is the man who claims that Bush and the Texas National Guard cleaned out any damaging information in Bush's National Guard files in 1997.
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Anybody with an axe to grind can start stuff like this.
 

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vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
A friend of mine is a legal secretary with a large DC firm. She's been around Al Gore any number of times and says he's a Grade A jerk, arrogant asstard. She says that the patronizing way he talks on TV is how he talks to everyone, this snide tone of voice that makes you feel like a complete idiot. Plus, she says he's a yeller and takes his temper out on everyone around him.
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
willie said:
All of this is totally believable but let's remember:

Former Lt. Colonel Bill Burkett is the man who claims that Bush and the Texas National Guard cleaned out any damaging information in Bush's National Guard files in 1997.
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Anybody with an axe to grind can start stuff like this.

And, of course, he has been proven to be incapable of telling the truth about this topic. This is the dingle-berry who provided the forged documents to Dan Rather and 60 Minutes.
 
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