Secretary Mnuchin’s response to Chairman Neal’s letter requesting President Trump’s tax returns

This_person

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Click it. Go ahead, click it. It's pretty good. "...abuse of authority...", "...dangerous precedent...", "...may not be used for the purpose of embarrassing or attacking political figures of another party..."

You really need to click it.
 

transporter

Well-Known Member
And you should read the relevant portion of the IRS tax code:

(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.


It is very clear and it is very explicit.

The statute CLEARLY states the Committee may request the return of ANY taxpayer. Therefore there is no "abuse of authority".

The statue CLEARLY states "the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request,". That does not leave any wiggle room.

The Treasury Secretary can refuse and he then could be held in contempt of Congress as he is breaking the law. Period. Again there is no wiggle room.

BTW: Section (g) of 26.6103 affords the same caabilities to the President....but no one on Fox "News" is telling you that are they?

Trump doesn't want the 35% to see his taxes. That is because Donald Trump is a tax cheat. But he has to keep the blind loyalty of that 35% who continue to refuse to accept the reality of Donald Trump. That he is inept, incompetent, unfit and a pathological liar.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
And you should read the relevant portion of the IRS tax code:

It is very clear and it is very explicit.

The statute CLEARLY states the Committee may request the return of ANY taxpayer. Therefore there is no "abuse of authority".

Did you note the footnotes in the Secretary's letter? He was quoting the House and Senate committees.

The Treasury Secretary can refuse and he then could be held in contempt of Congress as he is breaking the law. Period. Again there is no wiggle room.

Yet, it seems there is. Almost as if you don't get that there is more than one piece of paper involved in something like this.

BTW: Section (g) of 26.6103 affords the same caabilities to the President.

And, he's not taking it to attempt to unethically embarrass members of his or another political party. Almost as if it's proof positive that he is the competent professional in comparison, the sane and mature adult in the room. Don't you think?

Trump doesn't want the 35% to see his taxes. That is because Donald Trump is a tax cheat. But he has to keep the blind loyalty of that 35% who continue to refuse to accept the reality of Donald Trump. That he is inept, incompetent, unfit and a pathological liar.

And, what exactly is it you are claiming he has cheated on with respect to his taxes. You didn't say he may not want to show because he could be a cheat, you said, "that is because Donald Trump is a tax cheat." If you are going to make such a statement, back it up.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
In Other words Go Fuk Yourself
But, he did it with so much more flair LOL... "Uh, guys, in your own words, if someone asks like this for this kind of reason, tell them to go get fuct. So, yeah, go get fuct - to quote YOU to YOU. Would you like me to play that back for you? Here's the link guys - go get fuct."
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
is there a :cds: Transporter Near By ...
:lmao:

If he would just actually read the posts and not just what MSNBC tells him to think about the subject he'd be so much better off. He answers me with "Fox News" like I watch that. I pretty much don't watch any news channels except to laugh at THEM ALL. I watch CSPAN and see what actually happened for myself, analyze it myself, then read several sources from a lot of political points of view to fill in ALL the gaps.

I do note that he's unable to respond when shown where he's wrong, though.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
I find it hard to believe that a man continually under audit from the IRS - a situation not unusual for a man in his position - it's strange to make the accusation that he is a tax cheat. Because if he is, the IRS has somehow shirked its duties and let him slide for decades.

The common thread in all of this is, of course, deranged Democrats. Convinced the Mueller Report would fulfill their dream of evicting an otherwise lawfully elected President - their hopes were dashed when it revealed no such thing. So what do they do? Charge Barr with carrying water for Trump and the whole investigation is suspect and they need to see unredacted report. Because, you see, he MUST be a criminal - they are convinced that he must be, even with no evidence.

So - why would they go after his tax returns? Either they're idiots and presume THEY can find evidence of criminality where the IRS could not, or - if there's a scintilla of intelligence there - they hope to embarrass him with nuggets they can dig up. It's why after two years of Mueller not finding anything, they STILL want more investigations, because they're delusional and frantic to find something - because dammit, it MUST BE THERE! SOMEWHERE!

I can only hope the American public is just fed up with them. They need to do their job, and it's no longer finding a Russian puppet. That has been played out.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Well, since it seems that the "request" was turned down, I guess their next step will will be an actual subpoena.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
"Trump doesn't want the 35% to see his taxes. That is because Donald Trump is a tax cheat. But he has to keep the blind loyalty of that 35% who continue to refuse to accept the reality of Donald Trump. That he is inept, incompetent, unfit and a pathological liar."

I swear that guy is Tranny

If it isn't he is just as stupid and mentally ill with TDS as Tranny is.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
I find it hard to believe that a man continually under audit from the IRS - a situation not unusual for a man in his position - it's strange to make the accusation that he is a tax cheat. Because if he is, the IRS has somehow shirked its duties and let him slide for decades.

It seems clear he is not a tax cheat. That was a baseless claim made by Tranny.

Even the Dems aren't saying that's their reason. They're saying they want to audit the ability of the IRS to conduct audits. So, they "randomly" chose the president's tax records to examine that ability.

I would say it is laughable, but it is so sickening as to be incapable of eliciting humor.

The common thread in all of this is, of course, deranged Democrats. Convinced the Mueller Report would fulfill their dream of evicting an otherwise lawfully elected President - their hopes were dashed when it revealed no such thing. So what do they do? Charge Barr with carrying water for Trump and the whole investigation is suspect and they need to see unredacted report. Because, you see, he MUST be a criminal - they are convinced that he must be, even with no evidence.

So - why would they go after his tax returns? Either they're idiots and presume THEY can find evidence of criminality where the IRS could not, or - if there's a scintilla of intelligence there - they hope to embarrass him with nuggets they can dig up.

:dingding:
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
It seems clear he is not a tax cheat. That was a baseless claim made by Tranny.


sure Trump is ... like and 'rich' person opposed to Progressive Group think YOU are a tax cheat if you take any or every deduction allowed by law

Nebulous or questionable deductions EVERYONE takes ... if Progressives can claim some 'illegality' running up to the 2020 Elections they will.

It matters not if the claim, are dismissed in court later ... ANYTHING to throw SHADE on Trump Now
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
It is almost unbelievable that FBI and CIA agents would involve themselves in such a plot, but the evidence is clear.
These people need to be in jail for sedition.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
It is almost unbelievable that FBI and CIA agents would involve themselves in such a plot, but the evidence is clear.


Nope not really ...


  1. Obama Admin Sycophants aka Progressives who believe in 'any means necessary'
  2. Bureaucrat Class [we cannot have Trump coming in disrupting the status quo]
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Well, since it seems that the "request" was turned down, I guess their next step will will be an actual subpoena.
If only there were a reason to request it.

That they can is not a reason. They can request mine, too, but they have no reason to. They need a reason to subpoena it.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Well, since it seems that the "request" was turned down, I guess their next step will will be an actual subpoena.

Good luck with that.

T, let's have a discussion about this because I know you to be a sensible person who answers questions and doesn't just melt down and start calling everyone a racist.

Do you want to see Trump's tax return, and why? And on a scale of 1-10 of important current issues, where does Trump's tax return fall?
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Good luck with that.

T, let's have a discussion about this because I know you to be a sensible person who answers questions and doesn't just melt down and start calling everyone a racist.

Do you want to see Trump's tax return, and why? And on a scale of 1-10 of important current issues, where does Trump's tax return fall?

Actually, for me, it's just curiosity as I've been able to see the taxes of past presidents but for some reason the incumbent doesn't want to show them. So, it tends to make someone wonder, why not? But that really doesn't matter. Even , if the taxes were released IAW the USC, the public still wouldn't get to see them. I do feel the we should be able to see the basic finances of those who are running for and holding office. Heck, even someone who wants to be County Commissioner, or on certain Boards and Commissions, here in St. Mary's has to submit financial disclosure forms.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I do feel the we should be able to see the basic finances of those who are running for and holding office.

🤷

Why ?

What specific difference would it make ?

Are you expecting some malfeasance to be discovered - some debate over tax credits or exemptions taken ?
Do you want to see how much the office seeker is worth ? - Would that make a diffenrence in your vote ?


We know Bernie Sanders owns 3 Dachas .... that seems to make NO difference to his supporters and the demand for Socialism
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I do feel the we should be able to see the basic finances of those who are running for and holding office.
What information do you think you can gleam from his taxes that you couldn't find in the FEC required financial disclosures?
 
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