Sharia in Florida

Xaquin44

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The point was this story had about as much to do with Sharia as your last few threads did.

In short, I was :poke:ing you.




Too bad you missed it. It was actually pretty funny.

actually, this story has way less to do with it then NS's did.

There are definate similarities that have been pointed out in the other thread. Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean they aren't there.

I'd say 'nice try', but really it wasn't.
 

Toxick

Splat
actually, this story has way less to do with it then NS's did.

Sez you.

I have yet to see anything that comes remotely close to a real explanation about how Texas or Federal Law mandated the death of the kid, And frankly that would be the only satisfactory comparison to the article and Shari'a.

And anything else is simply smoke, mirrors and ovine fecal matter.


Why can't anyone just admit that labelling the subject header with "Sharia" was nothing more than prodding and ####-stirring, and a desire to illicit a reaction.


There are definate similarities that have been pointed out in the other thread.

If I remember correctly - which I do - the "definite similarities" you pointed out, were simply that the "results" were the same, and religion is somehow involved. At best, that's a contrived proposition, since these "results" could be arrived at in myriad ways.

A fact which you scoffed at yesterday, and I have little doubt you'll do the same today.

Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean they aren't there.

And just because you want to see similarities (such as they are), doesn't mean they are there.

I didn't choose to ignore similarities. I just know useless prodding when I see it, and I call bull#### when I do.
 

Xaquin44

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yes, 'Sez me' because I'm right.

I have yet to see anything that comes remotely close to a real explanation about how Texas or Federal Law mandated the death of the kid, And frankly that would be the only satisfactory comparison to the article and Shari'a.

No. That's simply not true. It's the only comparrision you seem to want, but it is not the only direct comparison that can be made.

Lets see here.

Faith based practices cause the death of an innocent vs. faith based practices cause the death of an innocent.

which is which?

oh! They apply to either situation!

....

And anything else is simply smoke, mirrors and ovine fecal matter.

not at all. Just because you don't like the comparisson (or whatever), doesn't somehow negate it.

Why can't anyone just admit that labelling the subject header with "Sharia" was nothing more than prodding and ####-stirring, and a desire to illicit a reaction.

It was. I'm pretty sure he even admitted it. None the less, there is a comparisson that can easily and accuratly be made.

If I remember correctly - which I do - the "definite similarities" you pointed out, were simply that the "results" were the same, and religion is somehow involved. At best, that's a contrived proposition, since these "results" could be arrived at in myriad ways.

You don't remember correctly. I said:

They are both faith based religions and both religions prescribe wrongful death. Car accidents and sharks can hardly be described as faith based religions. You're making yourself look like (more of) a fool.

I did mention the results were the same, yes .... but they were the same result as made real by the religious practice.

A fact which you scoffed at yesterday, and I have little doubt you'll do the same today.

Yes .... because comparing a shark attack to religious practice is a terrible comparisson. However, comparing religious practices is more in line with the topic as they are both religious practices and both result in the death of an innocent person.

And just because you want to see similarities (such as they are), doesn't mean they are there.

Again, they are similar. Not the exact same, but similar. Enough to make a comparisson. The similarity is there and you are choosing not to see it.

I didn't choose to ignore similarities. I just know useless prodding when I see it, and I call bull#### when I do.

Yes, you did (choose) and are choosing to ignore the similarity between the two.
 

Xaquin44

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That's because THAT'S WHAT SHARIA IS dumbass.

I'm not sure you know what 'similar' means.

Similar: Having a likeness or resemblance, esp. in a general way: i.e. two similar houses.

note that the houses are not the same .... just similar.

These two instances are similar because both deaths were justified using faith based tenants.

I'm hardly a dumbass for using a word properly.

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also just to be clear on this.

Comparison: The considering of two things with regard to some characteristic that is common to both.

The common ground here being the above.

Again, using a word properly and making a valid comparison is hardly being a dumbass.

One could argue that not understanding that, however, is.
 
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This_person

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Lets see here.

Faith based practices cause the death of an innocent vs. faith based practices cause the death of an innocent.

which is which?

oh! They apply to either situation!
Exactly wrong.

In one, a faith based practice causes people to actually commit harm with the intention of committing harm and even death, and the harm and death are sanctioned by the religion.

In the other, the harm is being inflicted by an outside, unfortunate force (some form of illness or medical issue), and the religious practice is to heal through faith - not kill, not harm, not result in death, but heal.

If you can't see the difference in that (not to mention that governmental sanction, which is equally huge), then there is no hope for you in a discussion such as this.
 

This_person

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I'm not sure you know what 'similar' means.

Similar: Having a likeness or resemblance, esp. in a general way: i.e. two similar houses.

note that the houses are not the same .... just similar.

These two instances are similar because both deaths were justified using faith based tenants.

I'm hardly a dumbass for using a word properly.
Still wrong. The death was not only justified, but caused by one faith. The death was attempted to be stopped in the other.

The differences are as plain as night and day.
 

Toxick

Splat
Yes, you did (choose) and are choosing to ignore the similarity between the two.


Not to mention the fact that you're only comparing a single unfortunate event with a tiny segment of an entire system of law, which happen share a result, regardless of the vast chasm of difference in the approach.

It's akin to saying that Maryland is under a Nazi Reich because an anti-semite who lives here got into a car accident with a jew, and the jew DIED.

Anti-semites killing jews. They're EXACTLY THE SAME :jameo:
 

Xaquin44

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Not to mention the fact that you're only comparing a single unfortunate event with a tiny segment of an entire system of law, which happen share a result, regardless of the vast chasm of difference in the approach.

yes, and the faith that led to that unfortunate event and the faith mandating that part of that law can edict similar results. I never said they were the same. Only similar in this particular case.

It's akin to saying that Maryland is under a Nazi Reich because an anti-semite who lives here got into a car accident with a jew, and the jew DIED.

Anti-semites killing jews. They're EXACTLY THE SAME :jameo:

no .... that's not even close to the same kind of comparison.

also, I never said thay were 'EXACTLY THE SAME'.

I can see you are trying to type words in my mouth that I haven't said. I suppose rubes may fall for it, but making up sentiment and trying to superimpose it on the other persons actual words is hardly a good way to debate.
 

Toxick

Splat
Similar: Having a likeness or resemblance, esp. in a general way: i.e. two similar houses.


Ok. Let's go with that.


A mansion in Beverly Hills has a terra-cotta roof, which you may know is a reddish brown color.

A trailer in Lexington Park, Maryland has a roof that's rusted through, which you may also know is a reddish brown color.


Going with your logic, these domiciles must be "similar".
 

Toxick

Splat
yes, and the faith that led to that unfortunate event and the faith mandating that part of that law can edict similar results. I never said they were the same. Only similar in this particular case.

If they're only similar in one particular case, then, you might be willing to agree that writing a subject line which implies that Texas is under Sharia Law is inappropriate.




no .... that's not even close to the same kind of comparison.

But it's "similar" don't you think?


also, I never said thay were 'EXACTLY THE SAME'.

No, but you said something similar.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Ok. Let's go with that.


A mansion in Beverly Hills has a terra-cotta roof, which you may know is a reddish brown color.

A trailer in Lexington Park, Maryland has a roof that's rusted through, which you may also know is a reddish brown color.


Going with your logic, these domiciles must be "similar".

In an extraordinarily general way, I suppose you could say that.

However, I would have just said that the color of their respective roofs are similar.

Also, it would depend on the discussion at hand. If we were talking about size, then no, they wouldn't be similar. However, if we were talking about roof color then sure, they can be similar.
 

Xaquin44

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If they're only similar in one particular case, then, you might be willing to agree that writing a subject line which implies that Texas is under Sharia Law is inappropriate.

I don't really care about the subject line one way or the other.

But it's "similar" don't you think?

not really.

No, but you said something similar.

No, actually, I didn't.

If it was exactly the same, I wouldn't be making a comparison, because they would be exactly the same.
 

Toxick

Splat
In an extraordinarily specific and contrived way, I suppose you could say that.

:fixed:

"Generally" speaking, the homes are incomparible.

The only similarities are the fact that their roofs are colored alike and people (possibly) live in them.


I suppose the fact that both items appear on planet earth and are affected by gravity could also be counted as a similarity.
 
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