Since I know how much we lovve to talk about gays on here...

vraiblonde

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20040317/ap_on_re_us/county_gay_ban_1&printer=1

DAYTON, Tenn. - The county that was the site of the Scopes "Monkey Trial" over the teaching of evolution is asking lawmakers to amend state law so the county can charge homosexuals with crimes against nature.

Commissioner J.C. Fugate, who introduced the measure, also asked the county attorney to find a way to enact an ordinance banning homosexuals from living in the county.

"We need to keep them out of here," Fugate said.

When I first read this I thought, "How stupid!" But then I thought about it a little more - wouldn't it be nice if ALL community leaders who felt this way would speak out so gays don't go live in their jurisdictions? I mean, why would they want to?

I know I wouldn't want to live someplace that was hostile to women or heterosexuals or anything I was. And I certainly wouldn't want to contribute my tax dollars to them. So why would gay people?
 

Ken King

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&u=/ap/20040317/ap_on_re_us/county_gay_ban_1&printer=1



When I first read this I thought, "How stupid!" But then I thought about it a little more - wouldn't it be nice if ALL community leaders who felt this way would speak out so gays don't go live in their jurisdictions? I mean, why would they want to?

I know I wouldn't want to live someplace that was hostile to women or heterosexuals or anything I was. And I certainly wouldn't want to contribute my tax dollars to them. So why would gay people?
And then we can do it to the blacks, the Jew, the Irish, the Indian, the abrasive older white man, the whomever. Real melting-pot there.
 

Larry Gude

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What crap...

...

wouldn't it be nice if ALL community leaders who felt this way would speak out so gays don't go live in their jurisdictions?

To hell with the Constitution, right? To hell with equal protection, right?

You're the wrong X and don't come here!?

Did it occur to you that someone might be born in jurisdiction stalag whatever? Someone gay? Or black? Or whatever isn't 'approved' in this little section of the land that was made, ostensibly, for you AND me???
 

vraiblonde

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Alright, alright. Sheesh. I was just thinking about moving to a community where they frowned on, say, women working or maybe a gay community that didn't want breeders hanging around. I'd avoid it - definitely wouldn't move there because I wouldn't fit in.

I'm a separatist at heart - I think if there are enough people who don't want to be around gays or blacks or women or heteros or whites or whatever, they should get a bubble and be happy instead of us having to listen to them pule and whine. Forcing diversity on people rarely works.
 

Larry Gude

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Sometimes I think...

...you'd make a great President because you are such a super mom and wife.

Other times I think you are nuts.
 

Ken King

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
I'm a separatist at heart - I think if there are enough people who don't want to be around gays or blacks or women or heteros or whites or whatever, they should get a bubble and be happy instead of us having to listen to them pule and whine. Forcing diversity on people rarely works.
Well go buy you an old ghost town and separate to your hearts content. We allow that, don't you know.
 

Larry Gude

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Ken...

...you know her.

She's the most social person in the world and truly loves people and getting to know how others do.

Hell, next time we go to Jamaica, she wants to stay with a local family, the poorer the better.

I think she has a real MPD, a Darth Vraider in the belfry that just pops out once in awhile???

:cheers:
 

Ken King

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Let her stay there. Get you that beach cabanna with a wet bar and a big old sack of . . . . . . . . . .
 

Pete

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Re: Re: Since I know how much we lovve to talk about gays on here...

Originally posted by Ken King
And then we can do it to the the abrasive older white man,
Hey, thats me..........hey you too for that matter. :lol:
 

Pete

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Vrai, I see your logic (nuts as it may be) but it would not work. As militant as some of the gay rights activists are they would move there on purpose for the publicity.
 
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rraley

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Individuals in this nation are allowed to hate gays, blacks, whites, etc. if they want (wouldn't be the best thing in the world), but they are entitled to hate if they want. It would be explicitly illegal and unconstitutional, however, if an arm of the government chose to discriminate against one type of people. This story is just a terrible example of man's inhumanity and intolerance.
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by rraley
This story is just a terrible example of man's inhumanity and intolerance.
I guess I'd just like it if all those inhumane and intolerant people could be lumped together in one community so the rest of us don't have to deal with them. :ohwell:
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by Pete
Vrai, I see your logic (nuts as it may be)
Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say. Larry just came down and berated me - said I sound like a KKK member when I talk like that. :lol:
 

Hessian

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Randy Weaver wanted to be separate...that did not end well for him.

People that wanted to be apart from the rest always headed into the frontier...as Frederick Turner noted in his famous thesis...that concept of individuality and the frontier is what defined us as a People.

I roomed with a Black Marylander in College, I have neighbors on both sides that are African-American, 60% of my students are African-American and I have seen brilliance & Ignorance, generosity and coldness. I feel comfortable raising my daughter with Black friends and schoolmates. However, I never dated a Black girl and would be VERY hesitant if my daughter started dating a Black guy...does that brand me a racist? The Bible makes it clear that under Christ there is neither Greek, Nor Jew, nor Gentile...and I can even stand along side a Quaker when they asserted that all souls are equal before God.
I will still cling to some cultural distinctions that make us prefer different music, food, movies etc...different but still equal.

The same cannot be said about homosexuals. Different by choice, refusing the very nature of biology, they are considered "given over" to a reprobate mind. The torment they have provided to this society in disappointed parents, confused spouses, stunned children, divided churches, and now confused marriage laws is the result of their arrogant twisted nature. (Not to mention the scourge of AIDS). "Equality" legitimized the damages they are still spreading.

This entire nation was better off when they stayed "in their closet" and didn't dare boast of their "Pride." Well, we can't put the genie back in the bottle, and now we are afraid to even speak our minds, state laws have begun to turn againt the majority of public opinion and the laws that this nation was founded on. So let a county of Tenn. consider a ban...no court in this nation would permit it for 1 second. They will be crucified in the press, sued in the courts, shredded in the editorial pages and all for expressing a sentiment that was commonly held 40 years ago. Sorry Tennessee, the genie is out, there is no going back.


Scene at City Hall in San Francisco:
"Next."
"Good morning. We want to apply for a marriage license."
"Names?"
"Tim and Jim Jones."
"Jones? Are you related? I see a resemblance."
"Yes, we're brothers."
"Brothers? You can't get married."
"Why not? Aren't you giving marriage licenses to same gender couples?"
"Yes, thousands. But we haven't had any siblings. That's incest!"
"Incest?" No, we are not gay."
"Not gay? Then why do you want to get married?"
"For the financial benefits, of course. And we do love each other. Besides, we don't have any other prospects."
"But we're issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples who've been denied equal protection under the law. If you are not gay, you can get married to a woman."
"Wait a minute. A gay man has the same right to marry a woman as I have. But just because I'm straight doesn't mean I want to marry a woman. I want to marry Jim."
"And I want to marry Tim, Are you going to discriminate against us just because we are not gay?"
"All right, all right. I'll give you your license. Next."
"Hi. We are here to get married."
"Names?"
"John Smith, Jane James, Robert Green, and June Johnson."
"Who wants to marry whom?"
"We all want to marry each other."
"But there are four of you!"
"That's right. You see, we're all bisexual. I love Jane and Robert, Jane loves me and June, June loves Robert and Jane, and Robert loves June and me. All of us getting married together is the only way that we can express our sexual preferences in a marital relationship."
"But we've only been granting licenses to gay and lesbian couples."
"So you're discriminating against bisexuals!"
"No, it's just that, well, the traditional idea of marriage is that
it's just for couples."
"Since when are you standing on tradition?"
"Well, I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere."
"Who says? There's no logical reason to limit marriage to couples. The more the better. Besides, we demand our rights! The mayor says the constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Give us a marriage license!"
"All right, all right. Next."
"Hello, I'd like a marriage license."
"In what names?"
"David Deets."
"And the other man?"
"That's all. I want to marry myself."
"Marry yourself? What do you mean?"
"Well, my psychiatrist says I have a dual personality, so I want to marry the two together. Maybe I can file a joint income-tax return."
"That does it! I quit!! You people are making a mockery of marriage!!"

anonymous
 

Tonio

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Originally posted by Hessian
I feel comfortable raising my daughter with Black friends and schoolmates. However, I never dated a Black girl and would be VERY hesitant if my daughter started dating a Black guy...does that brand me a racist?

I don't think it does, but I'm curious to know why. You might have a point if you're concerned that your daughter might get beaten up by bigots.

My brother's wife is black. When they first began dating 15 years ago, he caught holy hell from my parents. Now, when I was growing up I had heard them equate black people with animals, and Dad was known to drop the N-bomb a time or two. But I never expected them to treat my brother so shabbily. Mom's twisted reasoning was that when she was young, dating a black person was just something you didn't do. My parents told my brother that they wouldn't allow his girlfriend in the house. So when my brother moved out and she moved in with him, he boycotted all family gatherings. This lasted for four years until my parents relented.

Here's the worst part of it, in my mind--my parents considered my brother to be a rebel, partly because he had long hair and played in metal bands. (He's never seen himself as a rebel and doesn't like that characterization.) So my parents assumed that he was "going black" in his dating habits as an act of rebellion. They considered me more straitlaced, and told my brother that if it had been me who was dating a black girl, they would have thrown me out of the house. (I was 23 but still living at home.) To this day, it angers me greatly that they would have been capable of doing that to me.
 

Tonio

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Originally posted by vraiblonde
I guess I'd just like it if all those inhumane and intolerant people could be lumped together in one community so the rest of us don't have to deal with them. :ohwell:

:lol: They would probably be intolerant of one another, and would probably wipe each other out in a month.
 
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