So apparently we're going to get some money

SkylarkTempest

Active Member

This oughta be interesting. I don't remember how we all got our $300 from Bush - did the gov just send us all checks or was it direct deposited?

And is getting a check supposed to make me feel better about the government shutting everything down and putting people out of work? Remind me again what that's called, where there is no private industry and the government provides all your needs.....

Are you equivocating a communist society to temporary emergency measures? Has the private industry been eliminated or just temporarily shut down, in many cases voluntarily? Is the government providing all our needs or is Trump temporarily providing the equivalent of a capital infusion to keep the economy afloat during this emergency?
 

Chris0nllyn

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Are you equivocating a communist society to temporary emergency measures? Has the private industry been eliminated or just temporarily shut down, in many cases voluntarily? Is the government providing all our needs or is Trump temporarily providing the equivalent of a capital infusion to keep the economy afloat during this emergency?

I think the larger issue here is the fact that it has been, what, a few weeks since the virus hit, and even less time since qurantines, closings, and overall crackdowns on public gatherings happened and yet Americans need money?

We're collectively living on credit with little to no savings and not even a month in and we need a trillion + in stimulus. What happens when stuff really hits the fan?

This is a great example on why you should have an emergency savings account with a minimum of 6-months of expenses.
 
This is a great example on why you should have an emergency savings account with a minimum of 6-months of expenses.
I don't disagree with this, and did that as much as I could while I was working. But interestingly, once you retire, your income is pretty much fixed, but almost guaranteed. I say almost, because Social Security could go fail, my pension could go away, and my IRA be depleted to 0, but all of those things are highly unlikely in the short term. I, and other retirees, are not dependent on working for a monthly check, so us retired 'boomers' are doing ok at the moment.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...


This oughta be interesting. I don't remember how we all got our $300 from Bush - did the gov just send us all checks or was it direct deposited?

And is getting a check supposed to make me feel better about the government shutting everything down and putting people out of work? Remind me again what that's called, where there is no private industry and the government provides all your needs.....
Think you've seen, (price), inflation, lately? Just wait until, and, if, this comes to fruition. There will be more money in circulation chasing the same amount of goods and services, increasing, raising prices, to accommodate for all that extra money.
 

Toxick

Splat
This oughta be interesting. I don't remember how we all got our $300 from Bush - did the gov just send us all checks or was it direct deposited?

It was a check. I remember because I cashed it, and got a really cool tattoo.

And is getting a check supposed to make me feel better about the government shutting everything down and putting people out of work?

Yup!

Remind me again what that's called, where there is no private industry and the government provides all your needs.....

Worker's paradise?
 

Stjohns3269

Active Member
I thought you guys were against socialism and for smaller government.

I don’t see you complaining now that you need the government to give you free money and to make sure a vaccine is developed for everyone at an affordable price.

I thought the fee market was going to take care of all that
 

Toxick

Splat
I thought you guys were against socialism and for smaller government.

I am. :yay:


I don’t see you complaining now that you need the government to give you free money and to make sure a vaccine is developed for everyone at an affordable price.


  1. It's not free money. It was mine before they ****ing took it.
  2. I am still complaining - this is a horrible idea.
 

Stjohns3269

Active Member
I am. :yay:





  1. It's not free money. It was mine before they ****ing took it.
  2. I am still complaining - this is a horrible idea.


Sure. Liar. You'd be homeless in two months without it and dead of the virus in a year because you couldn't afford the vaccine if not for the governments intervention.

Not to mention they have now promised to test for free when they are able.

Why not just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and create your own vaccine?
 

Scat

Well-Known Member
Sure. Liar. You'd be homeless in two months without it and dead of the virus in a year because you couldn't afford the vaccine if not for the governments intervention.

Not to mention they have now promised to test for free when they are able.

Why not just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and create your own vaccine?
Probably the same reason why you refuse treatment for your rectal-cranial inversion issues.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
As I have said before some people are going to need the help.
I have nothing against helping them, but just sending out money to every American is a bad idea.
There needs to be some priorities.

And for what it's worth, what is a thousand dollars? One months rent?
Send this money to people the new rules have put out of work, not to Govt. employees aho are working at home or on Administrative Leave, not to pensioners who will receive their pension checks anyway, or to people who are still employed and earning their living.
Pretty sure that as usual this will be a boondoggle. An expensive one.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
As I have said before some people are going to need the help.
I have nothing against helping them, but just sending out money to every American is a bad idea.
There needs to be some priorities.

And for what it's worth, what is a thousand dollars? One months rent?
Send this money to people the new rules have put out of work, not to Govt. employees aho are working at home or on Administrative Leave, not to pensioners who will receive their pension checks anyway, or to people who are still employed and earning their living.
Pretty sure that as usual this will be a boondoggle. An expensive one.
I was talking about this to my wife last night. I'm still working every day, on site. I cannot telework, actually I can but when I asked a couple of months ago I was shot down. 🤷 Anyway, My wife teaches, so right now both of us have income so we are good. Besides, any check(s) we would receive from Uncle Sugar would get deposited then turned right around and sent to the IRS.

I think the optics that POTUS wants to get out there is that the government is doing something. Hush money so to speak. To go through every eligible person then to cull out those that are still working and bringing home a check would delay getting this proposed money out to those that need it.
 

Scat

Well-Known Member
I was talking about this to my wife last night. I'm still working every day, on site. I cannot telework, actually I can but when I asked a couple of months ago I was shot down. 🤷 Anyway, My wife teaches, so right now both of us have income so we are good. Besides, any check(s) we would receive from Uncle Sugar would get deposited then turned right around and sent to the IRS.

I think the optics that POTUS wants to get out there is that the government is doing something. Hush money so to speak. To go through every eligible person then to cull out those that are still working and bringing home a check would delay getting this proposed money out to those that need it.
If you listen and read carefully, you most likely will not be getting the same (if any) check. The discussions are around a maximum dollar amount vs, income limits. President Trump did say he would not be sending checks to the “rich”.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member

This oughta be interesting. I don't remember how we all got our $300 from Bush - did the gov just send us all checks or was it direct deposited?

And is getting a check supposed to make me feel better about the government shutting everything down and putting people out of work? Remind me again what that's called, where there is no private industry and the government provides all your needs.....
It’s called the trump administration 🤷
 
Send this money to people the new rules have put out of work, not to Govt. employees aho are working at home or on Administrative Leave, not to pensioners who will receive their pension checks anyway, or to people who are still employed and earning their living.
I agree with this, sending a check to every man, woman and child is totally wasteful. Many who don't need it will get it to the disadvantage of those that do.

But I thought about this; the time and cost to actually figure out who does and does not need this money would far exceed any timelines for it's need, there would be arguments on the method for determining the distributions, the method of distribution, and on and on. So it almost becomes less expensive and more timely to just send money to anyone.
 

Scat

Well-Known Member
I agree with this, sending a check to every man, woman and child is totally wasteful. Many who don't need it will get it to the disadvantage of those that do.

But I thought about this; the time and cost to actually figure out who does and does not need this money would far exceed any timelines for it's need, there would be arguments on the method for determining the distributions, the method of distribution, and on and on. So it almost becomes less expensive and more timely to just send money to anyone.
Dont you think most of it is already available in the IRS database? Just plug in the variables (income limit, no retiree or government checks, etc) and
 
Dont you think most of it is already available in the IRS database? Just plug in the variables (income limit, no retiree or government checks, etc) and
It might be. But without saying it, I was referring to the dems and repubs trying to get together to make any decisions. Even if the info is there and available, in-fighting will prevent it from being distributed.
 
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