So Sad- The truth about puppy mills

[Booboo3604]

Want to know where those cute puppies at the pet store and those cute "pure bred" puppies that people sell at flea markets or on the side of roads come from?? Take 4 minutes and just watch the video and what you are supporting when you buy from these places... If you want a puppy, check your shelter or rescue groups or Petfinders.org. Its time to end this... pass this on if you care about these innocent dogs who need nothing but unconditional love...

http://stoppuppymills.org/

 

[Mousebaby]

 

[krazd_kat]

I truly wish everyone looking for a puppy would read through this site, read the "Survivor Stories", these will break your heart.

This is what the rescues fight every day, people buying from Puppy Mills AND the back yard breeder. The BYB doesn't cause near as much damage to a local area, and usually doesn't come near to the number of ill puppies as the puppy millers do, BUT they do cause the same issues on a smaller scale.

If you are looking for a new family companion, please visit the shelter or contact your local rescues. If you "want" that purebred companion, please be willing to put out the extra money required to buy from a breeder that fully researches their breed and tests their breeding stock to ensure to the best of their abilities that the offspring will not be born with genetic problems.

These problems are man made, and only man can stop this.

Please don't buy while shelter dogs die.

 

[SoftballCrazy]

Want to know where those cute puppies at the pet store and those cute "pure bred" puppies that people sell at flea markets or on the side of roads come from?? Take 4 minutes and just watch the video and what you are supporting when you buy from these places... If you want a puppy, check your shelter or rescue groups or Petfinders.org. Its time to end this... pass this on if you care about these innocent dogs who need nothing but unconditional love...

http://stoppuppymills.org/

I was getting ready to post the same article/video! The videos are so disturbing, it's terribly sad to see so many dogs packed in those tiny crates and living in those conditions. Puppy Mills definitely need to go out of business!!

 

[cattitude]

You've gotten in trouble with your Backyard Breeder=Devil mentality ever since you started on SOMD.
Backyard Breeders may not be a viable alternative to you, but to others they are. Knowing the bloodlines of my dogs, and being able to see the disposition of the parents is important. I will continue to aquire my dogs from them.

Once again, just because YOU want to get your dogs from a shelter, doesnt mean we all have to. Just because you drive a Yugo doesnt mean we all should

Small breeders do not necessarily equate to backyard breeders. As Krazd_Kat mentions:

If you "want" that purebred companion, please be willing to put out the extra money required to buy from a breeder that fully researches their breed and tests their breeding stock to ensure to the best of their abilities that the offspring will not be born with genetic problems.

You just need to be sure that the pups are from HEALTH TESTED parents and that the breeder is responsible and aware of any problems. This is my distinction with a backyard breeder..it's what makes them different from a responsible, yet small business, breeder. I think you confuse what Krazd_kat is saying. We aren't so much against RESPONSIBLE breeders as we are those that do it just for the money and without regard for the product they are producing.

Irresponsible breeding is not limited to puppy mills.

I agree it's nice to see where your puppy comes from. You cannot always be sure of that if you purchase from a breeder that doesn't own the stud. You're at the mercy of the breeder to be honest about the lineage and that is not always the case.

Those of us that do rescue see the ill effects of what people can do to animals. You have to excuse us if we seem a little edgy when it comes to pets. And I've been burned by a BYB as well. And I also paid big bucks for one of my dogs.

I love animals...all animals and I hate to see them used by people.

 

[krazd_kat]

Knowing the bloodlines of my dogs, and being able to see the disposition of the parents is important. I will continue to aquire my dogs from them.

Just because you drive a Yugo doesnt mean we all should

If you know the bloodlines of your dogs, then chances are you didn't acquire your dog from just a BYB out for the money.

As cattitude says, it's the irresponsible breeders that are the problem and that's not always a BYB.

And I don't think we should all drive Hugos... we should drive whatever we can afford to drive w/o complaining about the cost of gas....

 

[Angel]

I do not agree with puppy mills, but I would like to know how we are suppose to stop them? If people stop buying the animals from the pet stores, what will happen to them? Aren't the animals at the pet stores just as needy as the animals in the shelter? What do you propose should be done to stop this?

 

[krazd_kat]

Pet Stores = supply and demand.

If the demand dries up the supply will stop. Buying a puppy from the pet store just encourages the puppy mills more. Yes they are just as needy, probably more so in some ways. But every dog bought from a pet store just keeps the cycle going.

 

[Angel]

Pet Stores = supply and demand.

If the demand dries up the supply will stop. Buying a puppy from the pet store just encourages the puppy mills more. Yes they are just as needy, probably more so in some ways. But every dog bought from a pet store just keeps the cycle going.

Yes, I understand this, but what would happen to all of the animals that aren't purchased? I cannot imagine that they would go to an animal shelter simply because that would defeat the puppy mill purpose. Would they euthanize all of the animals that weren't purchased? Would we seriously prefer some mass euthanization of animals just to stop the puppy mills? I don't know what happens to the animals that aren't purchased at the pet stores, do you? Seriously?

 

[Cowgirl]

Yes, I understand this, but what would happen to all of the animals that aren't purchased? I cannot imagine that they would go to an animal shelter simply because that would defeat the puppy mill purpose. Would they euthanize all of the animals that weren't purchased? Would we seriously prefer some mass euthanization of animals just to stop the puppy mills? I don't know what happens to the animals that aren't purchased at the pet stores, do you? Seriously?

Say there are 100 puppies in petstores...and we all stop buying them. Just say they do euthanize all those puppies because nobody will buy them. Ok, so that's 100 puppies euthanized one time. Just think of all the hundreds of puppies that are bred to supply the stores...all of those lives will be saved because there would be no more petstores selling puppies.

 

[Angel]

Say there are 100 puppies in petstores...and we all stop buying them. Just say they do euthanize all those puppies because nobody will buy them. Ok, so that's 100 puppies euthanized one time. Just think of all the hundreds of puppies that are bred to supply the stores...all of those lives will be saved because there would be no more petstores selling puppies.

Sounds like a Hypocrite to me. Save the puppies, but kill the puppies? :shrug: Where does that make sense? Come up with a better way to stop the puppy mills.

 

[Cowgirl]

Sounds like a Hypocrite to me. Save the puppies, but kill the puppies? :shrug: Where does that make sense? Come up with a better way to stop the puppy mills.

Well, you're just not understanding. Is it better for 100 puppies to die ONE TIME, or for hundreds more to be bred and end up in shelters and put down then? If you "rescue" one puppy from the petstore, they're just going to replace it with one exactly like it...puppy after puppy after puppy... Get it? It's not going to stop if people keep buying from the stores.

I'd rather a few puppies be euthanized in order to put puppy mills out of business.

 

[Angel]

Well, you're just not understanding. Is it better for 100 puppies to die ONE TIME, or for hundreds more to be bred and end up in shelters and put down then? If you "rescue" one puppy from the petstore, they're just going to replace it with one exactly like it...puppy after puppy after puppy... Get it? It's not going to stop if people keep buying from the stores.

I'd rather a few puppies be euthanized in order to put puppy mills out of business.

There has to be a better way and until somebody can come up with a better way, I doubt it will happen. Until then, the success rate of nobody purchasing puppies from a pet store, will be about as successful as the National Gas Out Day where nobody buys Gas on Tuesday.

 

[Cowgirl]

There has to be a better way and until somebody can come up with a better way, I doubt it will happen. Until then, the success rate of nobody purchasing puppies from a pet store, will be about as successful as the National Gas Out Day where nobody buys Gas on Tuesday.

You're right...there are tons of people like you out there who think you're rescuing puppies by buying them from petstores.

 

[Angel]

You're right...there are tons of people like you out there who think you're rescuing puppies by buying them from petstores.

:shrug:

 

[krazd_kat]

Nice cover, but notice the "want" in your original rant. Why did you empasize it with quotes if you werent speaking from a standpoint of disdain?

This is where you and i have disagreed in the past, you have no wish/desire/"want" for a purebred, as such you dont understand why others would. You've toned that attitude down in your posts but it still seeps through

There was no disdain in that... I meant some people really WANT the purebred for whatever reason... maybe it's a herding dog, maybe they WANT to show it.

You've got a bone to pick w/me because we don't agree, that's fine - buy your dogs where you want to and I'll continue to rescue the one's that aren't lucky enough to be bought by people like you, people like you that will keep it the rest of it's life, or have it humanely euthanized when you either no longer want it, or maybe for health reasons...

It's the others buying from unethical breeders, or buying their designer dogs, that they either grow out of or they didn't know what they were getting in to with that breed (which an ethical breeder would have known that and not sold that herding dog with the high prey drive to an apartment dweller that only wanted a lap dog after all). It's these people and these breeders that I have a disagreement with.

Responsible owners and responsible breeders I have no problem with. And I have stated that many times.

Another place you are wrong - for a long time I "wanted" pure bred Rottweilers (my first was 'bought' from an BYB, thank goodness I was lucky and had no health problems).... now, thanks to so many unethical breeders and uncommited owners, I have purebred Rotties coming out of my ears. As well as pure bred Pugs, Boston Terriers, American Bulldogs, Chocolate Labs, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers.... the list goes on and on.

 

[appendixqh]

There has to be a better way and until somebody can come up with a better way, I doubt it will happen. Until then, the success rate of nobody purchasing puppies from a pet store, will be about as successful as the National Gas Out Day where nobody buys Gas on Tuesday.

Yeah Angel...you just don't get it, do ya!

I didn't know we couldn't buy Gas on Tuesdays!

 

[Geek]

Sounds like a Hypocrite to me. Save the puppies, but kill the puppies? :shrug: Where does that make sense? Come up with a better way to stop the puppy mills.

Ok, lets talk about stoning a pedophile to death. One stone thown won't kill a person but thousands of stones will. Buying one puppy from a pet store won't stop puppy mills. If thousands stop buying puppies the mills will start to die because they won't be making money. The puppy in the pet store will age and be turned over to shelters or rescues. That happens now anyway. It is about putting your money where your morals are. Would you rather spend money with people that care about the animals and want to see them have a good home? Or would you rather hand your money to people that use dogs as a crop to make a profit?

 

[appendixqh]

I'll continue to rescue the one's that aren't lucky enough to be bought by people like you, people like you that will keep it the rest of it's life, or have it humanely euthanized when you either no longer want it,

Don't kill me here, but I have to ask the question. Do the majority of the people on these forums feel that shooting a dog (a well placed shot, not firing squad) would be considered a humane form of euthanizing? I only ask becuase when I was growing up I watched an old farmer carry his dog off and shoot it because it was hurt. So...what do the forumites think?

 

[Booboo3604]

Don't kill me here, but I have to ask the question. Do the majority of the people on these forums feel that shooting a dog (a well placed shot, not firing squad) would be considered a humane form of euthanizing? I only ask becuase when I was growing up I watched an old farmer carry his dog off and shoot it because it was hurt. So...what do the forumites think?

If its between having an animal suffer to death or one shot, I would definitely pick the one shot. However if you're shooting the dog just to shoot it or it could be put down peacefully, then don't shoot. Just my opinion..........