So who do you think will get the Dem nomination?

Lurk

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LOL at Hogan, but I get it.

This is an interesting question because it is so far out. No one had Trump winning the republican nomination when there was what 14? 15?

My bet is they will go with dependable Uncle Joe who unfortunately may use his wife's and sons death to his benefit. I see him distancing himself from the greatest (and only) Muslim President ever to help his cause. He will become the stabilizing force for the party. I also see him negotiating behind the scenes to include one of the others as his running mate to get the support of the far far leftist. (Gillibrand or Klobuchar to get the Ladies votes? or Castro/Beto to get the Hispanic vote)

Now to be honest, I hope it is Kamila or Bernie. Trump in a landslide.

You don't think the Democratic Socialists will splinter off and make Bern their "He was screwed in 2016, don't screw him again!" candidate?
 

vraiblonde

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I hate to say it, but I think Barack Obama screwed over any black person who runs for POTUS. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. Obama was so afrocentric and everything with him was about race, and Cory Booker/Kamala Harris are no different. Moderates are going to be like, yeah, we don't want to go through that again when we're just beginning to recover race relations.

I think any black/gay/female Presidents need to come from the GOP because they rep everyone, not just their specific demographic. They have no axe to grind. And the American people are sick of axe grinding.
 

Monello

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I'm gonna go with Robert Francis. Or is it Bobby Frankie? I think RFOR1 works best. Just like another famous Texan who had a short career and fizzled out spectacularly in the DC spotlight.
 

22AcaciaAve

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I believe the dem nominee will be Joe Biden. Mainly because any of the others are so far left it will be tough to win the independent vote and that is how elections are won. You need your base, but Trump is polarizing both ways so I expect that will not be a problem on either the republican or democrat side. But the fact is that neither base makes up even close to 50%. Without the independent vote, you don't win. The only way Harris, Warren, Booker, Beto or any other far left clowns win is if the independents simply stay home or vote 3rd party. The independent faction in this country leans slightly conservative which is the only reason Trump won in 2016. He got enough in the swing states to offset the the liberal states that overwhelmingly voted against him. No matter what people think about Biden and his gaffe moments, he does have an impressive foreign policy knowledge base to draw from, and he if he swings back to the center in a general, he will be a tough opponent for Trump. If the democrats don't nominate him they are simply asking for another improbable defeat.
 

22AcaciaAve

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Larry Hogan.

I really don't get why some republicans in Maryland are so down on Larry Hogan. I get that he is not as far right as people would like, but this is Maryland. If you want a governor that is that much of a conservative you need to move. Seriously. Have you looked at the state you live in? If you really have that much of a problem with the only republican to win a gubernatorial re-election in over half a century, why would you continue to live here. Maryland is one of the most liberal states in the country. The only way a republican wins here is to be a moderate centrist. If you are waiting for someone with views like Ted Nugent to take office, you will die very unhappy. Larry Hogan at least kept the conversation in Maryland pointed towards the center. After he is gone you will find out what democrat rule really means. Say goodbye to your guns, say hello to taxes. In 4 years you will wish Larry Hogan would run again.
 

Yooper

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I believe the dem nominee will be Joe Biden. Mainly because any of the others are so far left it will be tough to win the independent vote and that is how elections are won. You need your base, but Trump is polarizing both ways so I expect that will not be a problem on either the republican or democrat side. But the fact is that neither base makes up even close to 50%. Without the independent vote, you don't win. The only way Harris, Warren, Booker, Beto or any other far left clowns win is if the independents simply stay home or vote 3rd party. The independent faction in this country leans slightly conservative which is the only reason Trump won in 2016. He got enough in the swing states to offset the the liberal states that overwhelmingly voted against him. No matter what people think about Biden and his gaffe moments, he does have an impressive foreign policy knowledge base to draw from, and he if he swings back to the center in a general, he will be a tough opponent for Trump. If the democrats don't nominate him they are simply asking for another improbable defeat.
Not after the #MeToo accusation that came out today. It may not amount to much, but it will bring attention on how bad Gropin' Joe is in this regard. Character assassins are out in force and Biden - I think - is Target 1 (or at least in top few folks to sideline).

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22AcaciaAve

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Not after the #MeToo accusation that came out today. It may not amount to much, but it will bring attention on how bad Gropin' Joe is in this regard. Character assassins are out in force and Biden - I think - is Target 1 (or at least in top few folks to sideline).

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Maybe, you can never tell where these things are going to go. But quite honestly if that kind of stuff was a killer than Trump wouldn't be running at all. He's had as many gotcha moments as anyone and they don't seem to matter. Maybe it will make Biden reconsider. He's had plenty of stupid gaffes that will be replayed. I wouldn't do it if I were him. But he is probably the best of a sad radical field on the democrat side. We will see.
 

NextJen

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I really don't get why some republicans in Maryland are so down on Larry Hogan. I get that he is not as far right as people would like, but this is Maryland. If you want a governor that is that much of a conservative you need to move. Seriously. Have you looked at the state you live in? If you really have that much of a problem with the only republican to win a gubernatorial re-election in over half a century, why would you continue to live here. Maryland is one of the most liberal states in the country. The only way a republican wins here is to be a moderate centrist. If you are waiting for someone with views like Ted Nugent to take office, you will die very unhappy. Larry Hogan at least kept the conversation in Maryland pointed towards the center. After he is gone you will find out what democrat rule really means. Say goodbye to your guns, say hello to taxes. In 4 years you will wish Larry Hogan would run again.

Good gawd, people. It was a joke! A joke because so many Republicans are so down on Hogan. Get a grip.

I understand that Hogan is a moderate. He understands that he has to appeal to more than the extreme right of the party. I get it. Sheesh. I actually like many things that Hogan has done. My only two beefs with him is that he has not been strong on supporting gun rights and right to conceal carry, etc. (which he didn't make any promises in his campaign), and that he has come out so strongly against the President.

SARCASM people. I promise I will use the sarcasm smiley, thingy next time.
 

Hijinx

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IMO Joe Biden never had an original thought in his life.
He is a puppet, Someone else pulls his strings. That is why Obama had him for VP
Because he knew Old Joe would just go along with anything he did.

As President ---whoever is Speaker of the House will be the actual President.
 

vraiblonde

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One would have to wonder why Joe Biden would even want to be President. He has to be set for life with money. You'd think he'd be ready to put all this crap behind him and retire comfortably.

So I have to think either A) he's a complete loser power monger psychopath; OR B) the puppetmasters are threatening him and forcing him to run because he'll be easy to control.

With Hillary it was easy - she was a definite and proudly out A. With Uncle Joe, I'm guessing B.
 

22AcaciaAve

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Good gawd, people. It was a joke! A joke because so many Republicans are so down on Hogan. Get a grip.

I understand that Hogan is a moderate. He understands that he has to appeal to more than the extreme right of the party. I get it. Sheesh. I actually like many things that Hogan has done. My only two beefs with him is that he has not been strong on supporting gun rights and right to conceal carry, etc. (which he didn't make any promises in his campaign), and that he has come out so strongly against the President.

SARCASM people. I promise I will use the sarcasm smiley, thingy next time.

That's fair. You might have meant it as sarcasm but you are correct about so many republicans being down on Hogan. My question, directed at them, simply is why? This is the best a republican can do in Maryland and if people don't like it they really should examine other places to live because there are 49 other states and at least 40 to 45 of them are not as far left as Maryland politically.
 

22AcaciaAve

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One would have to wonder why Joe Biden would even want to be President. He has to be set for life with money. You'd think he'd be ready to put all this crap behind him and retire comfortably.

So I have to think either A) he's a complete loser power monger psychopath; OR B) the puppetmasters are threatening him and forcing him to run because he'll be easy to control.

With Hillary it was easy - she was a definite and proudly out A. With Uncle Joe, I'm guessing B.

Yeah but then why did Trump want to be President? He's got more money than Biden and is nearly as old. I don't think B applies to him, but A certainly might.
 

SamSpade

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That's actually interesting in that, while I had seen articles about how some people knew him at Columbia -
I had never seen anything about his time at Occidental, and began to wonder about it.

But I still think it's odd that anyone transfers to an Ivy League college halfway through their college years.
Mainly - how often does it happen at all, and that two roommates were able to do it.
 

SamSpade

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Yeah but then why did Trump want to be President? He's got more money than Biden and is nearly as old. I don't think B applies to him, but A certainly might.
I always thought it was because at some point, he thought he could make a difference.
I suppose when you HAVE enough money and never need to worry about it, you begin to have
different goals.
 

Yooper

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This is the best a republican can do in Maryland....
I would disagree. He doesn't even make the effort to push even a little bit. Even that tiny gesture would go a long way in getting those of us who aren't entirely happy feeling a little better.

I[]f people don't like it they really should examine other places to live because there are 49 other states and at least 40 to 45 of them are not as far left as Maryland politically.
Noted. And in the process of making that happen.

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Yooper

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Yeah but then why did Trump want to be President? He's got more money than Biden and is nearly as old. I don't think B applies to him, but A certainly might.
If the grammar here refers to Biden, I would agree. I think it is A. And his gropin' is a manifestation of it.

I honestly believe that Trump is, in essence, an American patriot.

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