So why was he arrested?

[PsyOps]

I'm inclined to agree with you because I believe he has priors.

It's not illegal!!! Only if you have something illegal in it or prior convictions.

RIGHT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF he has priors he is a target. THAT is NOT how our legal system should work. Again, satisfy the system for the sake of the system rather than for the sake of the people. The compartment was empty and had no residue. You're telling us that he is being charged with a felony because he has priors. REALLY? That's how the law works? So you're saying, because I have no priors and they found a hidden compartment in my car, I would not be charged with a felony?

 

[GURPS]

They all become self justifying bureaucracies that seek ONE thing; More.

a Self Licking Ice Cream Cone ......

 

[GURPS]

The cops supposedly smelled weed, but didn't find it.

hmm


I though this old saw, was no longer a valid excuse to toss someones car ...

 

[GURPS]

.... some information which came from the blaze, a newspaper which is notorious for providing the editorialized version .....

News Flash Sparky - ALL News is editorialized

even the reports you right up .... are all OPINION

 

[GURPS]

If the story is true, that he had a hidden box and it was empty, having a law that states it's illegal to have a hidden box in your car and it's a felony drug crime, that is about as stupid a law as it gets.

Supporting such a law shows what little you care about liberty

that was my premise for posting the article ...

 

[LibertyBeacon]

A secret compartment in your car can be your arsehole, so technically any of us are at risk now.

 

[itsrequired]

How do you prove that?

Seriously? There are a ton of ways to prove that. You have to think outside of a traffic stop. The world doesn't stop there. This stop could be the broader part of another investigation. The guy could have made a statement consistent with that crime.

There are a myriad of other ways to prove that.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Seriously? There are a ton of ways to prove that. You have to think outside of a traffic stop. The world doesn't stop there. This stop could be the broader part of another investigation. The guy could have made a statement consistent with that crime.

There are a myriad of other ways to prove that.

Yes, seriously. I've been asking that question all thread, and all you've done is give overly broad answers and act like all of us are supposed to know that police have ways to prove intent stemming from an empty container.

Then, arresting that man for intent, when the law specifically says an empty container is exempt.

I understand there are ways to prove intent, elsewhere, but I'm asking you, in this case, to provide examples of how a traffic stop from speeding stems into this.

 

[itsrequired]

Yes, seriously. I've been asking that question all thread, and all you've done is give overly broad answers and act like all of us are supposed to know that police have ways to prove intent stemming from an empty container.

Then, arresting that man for intent, when the law specifically says an empty container is exempt.

I understand there are ways to prove intent, elsewhere, but I'm asking you, in this case, to provide examples of how a traffic stop from speeding stems into this.

I already told you one, how many do you want?

 

[Tech]

A secret compartment in your car can be your arsehole, so technically any of us are at risk now.

Those are not secret since our politicians seem to flaunt their's by speaking out of them.

 

[Larry Gude]

A secret compartment in your car can be your arsehole, so technically any of us are at risk now.

Especially if there are wires and shi...stuff...running to it...

 

[Gilligan]

Especially if there are wires and shi...stuff...running to it...

 

[PsyOps]

Especially if there are wires and shi...stuff...running to it...

I would like to think the shi would be running from it.

 

[DipStick]

I don’t have to sit here and take yours or anyone else’s armchair psychological evaluation of me just because I support someone’s right to modify their own property in a way that they deem is necessary for them. For me this isn't as much about personal security as it is just about WE THE PEOPLE having the right to do things without an instrusive government coming in and making us criminals for doing so.

But... If you go to Waldorf Mall, do you leave your iPod and other electronics just sitting on your front seat in plain view when you go into the mall? If not, why? Are you paranoid? If you take this ‘fear’ a step further, there are places where people will go to great lengths to break into your car and steal your stuff. Why wouldn’t you want to make it more difficult for them to find it? I don’t call that paranoid, I call that smart. If I’m travelling to the shooting range and somehow get carjacked or attempted robbery, are you comfortable knowing your firearms are just laying in your trunk?

But this just misses the point about the OP anyway… this guy got charged with a felony for simply having a secret compartment in his car. He was hauled in, finger printed, put in a jail cell, and charged, will have to spent tens of thousands of dollars hiring a lawyer, probably bankrupt him, for what? Having a compartment in his car – an empty one at that? You’re okay with this? You’re okay with people being run through like this, their lives turned upside down simply for having modified their car; their own property? This is insanity. You call me paranoid? The system is paranoid when they accuse someone of a felony for having an EMPTY compartment in their car. Given this, perhaps we all should have a reason to be paranoid. You just never know when you’re going to be falsely accused of a crime when it’s this simple to accuse someone of a felony.

I just had the face plate to my car stereo stolen in South Carolina by some wannabe gangster. I guess, in the future, I could put the face plate in the glovebox that doesn't have a lock that way it would take the thieves five seconds more to steal my ####.

I guess having some place built in to my car to hide valuable stuff makes me a criminal so I might as well make it easier for criminals to steal MY stuff that I worked for because it makes it easier for the police to do their jobs.

 

[DipStick]

Yea, a little ole' law you obviously didn't read or understand. Yet continue to advocate for.

My parents had their car stolen. It ended up in NE D.C. with the glovebox ripped out, and it's contents all over the place. Now, imagine if we lived in a state that allowed concealed carry. I assume we should just make it easier for the robbers to find the gun?

But again, so what if he had a compartment that was hidden from public view? That, in and of itself, is not reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed or is going to be committed. This is like saying that if you have a gun, it probably means you’re a criminal, because criminals use guns.

That's just it - writing a law that affects law-abiding people and makes it easier for criminals to break the law to prevent criminals from breaking another law they're going to break anyways.

 

[DipStick]

Clam down already would ya?? You really want to spend what ever it costs to install one of these things to hide your I-pod??

He didn't just have an empty compartment. He had an elaborate, electrically controlled hiding place. BIG difference!!

Here's the bottom line... We have thousands of laws telling us what we can and cannot do with things we own.

• We cannot have more than 3 shells in the magazine while duck/goose hunting.
• We cannot have our tire extend more than 3" past the fender.
• We cannot raise the rear of our car beyond a certain level.
• We cannot have loud exhaust on our vehicles.

The list goes on and on....

Answer truthfully. How many of you even heard of this thing until now?? How many of you were going to install one?? Y'all are acting all butt hurt about this when in reality, it doesn't affect any of us at all!!

There are much more important things you should get worked up about really!

Maybe the man had #### stolen from his car and decided to create a compartment in there that would be impossible for thieves to break in to. It'd be like the State of Virginia telling me I can't have a safe hidden in a hole in the wall behind a painting in my own house because druggies might keep their weed hidden in a compartment behind a painting. Or saying I can't hide my money in a safe because druggies hide weed in a safe.

 

[itsrequired]

Maybe the man had #### stolen from his car and decided to create a compartment in there that would be impossible for thieves to break in to.

Maybe the man was a drug dealer who happened to not be holding at the time the cops stopped him. (Since we are speculating, I thought I would speculate as well.)

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Maybe the man was a drug dealer who happened to not be holding at the time the cops stopped him. (Since we are speculating, I thought I would speculate as well.)

It's too bad he was arrested based on that speculation, huh?

 

[PsyOps]

It's too bad he was arrested based on that speculation, huh?

HOODIES!

We need to make wearing hoodies illegal. Most crimes are committed by people wearing hoodies. If you are caught wearing a hoodie, even if you’ve committed no other crime, it should be a felony.

 

[itsrequired]

It's too bad he was arrested based on that speculation, huh?

I, like you, don't know exactly what the information the cops on the scene had. We are reading press releases, or news stories that don't have all the information. It's too bad you don't get that.