So ya'll crybabies don't want a divorce...

vraiblonde

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How about moving borders?


You're never going to convince me that rural and suburban areas should be held hostage by dystopian monolithic megacities. Perhaps the solution is for those cities to become their own state?
 

GURPS

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How about moving borders?


You're never going to convince me that rural and suburban areas should be held hostage by dystopian monolithic megacities. Perhaps the solution is for those cities to become their own state?

Indeed, City States .... then the truth on crime may no longer be hidden by such proclamations

look at these Red States with the highest crime rates

Sell the move by asking Blue Cities, why do you want your tax dollars to go to supporting those Red Suburbs or rural areas ... keep your taxes at home to support those social programs you hold dear ....


Portland and Seattle [ among others ] should be their own states
 

Ken King

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And, as states, they would each get two Senators and various amounts of Representatives, that would throw any chance of deterring one party rule for the nation beyond fixing.
 

GURPS

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And, as states, they would each get two Senators and various amounts of Representatives, that would throw any chance of deterring one party rule for the nation beyond fixing.


Interesting Point, figuring 15 - 50 Democratic Run Cities to seperate from their states
 

Merlin99

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And, as states, they would each get two Senators and various amounts of Representatives, that would throw any chance of deterring one party rule for the nation beyond fixing.
But when a blue city separates from the state, there’s a high probability that the rest of the state is or will be red.
 

SamSpade

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I’m guessing that the Constitutional legal process for this would never happen.

There have been dozens of these kinds of efforts in the past - 30 years ago, there was a movement for DelMarVa to merge. A few years back, a bunch of VA counties wanted to join West Virginia. Many movements have been to split California into many states and I once read about Long Island wanting to be its own state.

A hundred years or so ago - there were a lot of various movements.

And sometimes there’s been murmuring of Alberta or British Columbia joining the United States.

But it’s just talk. Quebec has been talking independence all my life. Never happens.
 

Grumpy

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Not a solution, the semi-literate would eventually get tired of the taxes, crime and laws and move on to infect another area...Kinda like Cali folks moving to Texas.
 

Monello

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But when a blue city separates from the state, there’s a high probability that the rest of the state is or will be red.
Except in possibly 6 states. I'm using data from the 2020 presidential election. 3 states all the counties went blue. That was Massachussets, Rhode Island & Vermont. Even in their rural areas they prefer liberal policies according to how they vote. New Hampshire, New Jersey & Connecticut round out the list where many rural counties voted blue. An argument could be made that CT & NJ have very little rural area.

I guess what needs to be studied is how the rest of the nation's rural areas are conservative except in New England. Is it their media? Is there something in the water? Are the local chem trails making everyone emotional instead of logical?

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Monello

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Not a solution, the semi-literate would eventually get tired of the taxes, crime and laws and move on to infect another area...Kinda like Cali folks moving to Texas.
Wyoming is noticing that same trend. They are not afraid to call it out.

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GURPS

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Conservatives Want to Secede From Oregon, and Leftists Are ENRAGED


Idaho Senate Minority Leader Melissa Wintrow, a Democrat, said: “I’m very pleased this measure has virtually no chance of advancing into reality. It would be bad for all involved and bad for the country, and I am opposed to it at all levels.” Bad for the country! When Leftists who have nothing but contempt for the America-First movement and seem to put America last in all their policy considerations, start declaring that something is “bad for the country,” it must be very good indeed.

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What is the big deal about moving a state boundary line? “Proponents of the idea argue it’s about maintaining more traditional values, preserving a certain way of life, and being properly represented by the state’s lawmakers.” Idaho Rep. Judy Boyle (R-9th district) stated: “Yes, I am supportive of the Greater Idaho idea. I have lived along the Oregon border my entire life, so have many east Oregon friends. They have been quite frustrated with the liberal I-5 western Oregon corridor running their state and completely ignoring their values and needs. They have finally come down to asking the voters, county by county, if they want to join Idaho. Currently, 11 counties have said YES!”

And that’s what has Leftists such as Wintrow rattled. What if conservatives all over the country get tired of serving as the Left’s piggy bank and start changing the political divisions of the country so as to get out of the statists’ grip?

People have already been voting with their feet, streaming out of socialist madhouses such as California and swelling the population of free states, chiefly Florida. This is already a massive rebuke to the Left’s claim to embody the will of the people and concern for workers, and if eastern Oregon manages to join Idaho, the rebukes could start coming thick and fast.

Boyle explained: “Advantages for Idaho are gaining citizens with likeminded conservative values, gaining another congressional seat, moving the Oregon ‘legal’ hard drugs several hundred miles away from Idaho’s population center, allowing these new Idaho citizens to remain in their existing homes and generational old ranches which relieves the pressure on the Idaho housing market, and brings more businesses, jobs, and innovators into Idaho.”

Not only does all that sound great, but it underscores the historical fact that Leftists can only maintain their rule by force. People who have never lived in a socialist state often long to live in one (just look at Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), but those who have actually suffered under socialist rule know better.
 

spr1975wshs

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The Mrs. and I were born and raised in Taxachusetts, will NOT be going back.
 
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