Social experiment (rambling)

libertytyranny

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Maybe i'm a weirdo..but sometimes I can't stand it when people hold the door open for me..sometimes it is burdensome... If I have my hands full and you are there at the door and keep it open for me..you will get an emphatic thank you! If I am walking along texting on my phone and am 30 ft away from the door, DO NOT HOLD IT OPEN. I don't want you to. I feel like I have to speed up, then give some kind of half assed smile and thank you for something I didnt want done for me. Sometimes I feel like men do it to be polite to ladies, but if I dont need help..I will not think ill of you one bit for going about your business and not worrying about lil ole me opening a door. Likewise I don't hold open the door for anyone that isnt either half a step behind me (where it would close on their nose) or have their arms full.

I have never noticed a pattern of who would hold the door for me ( I have had all kinds)..but it is young doofy white guys that often hold the door at the most burdensome times...and I dont think ive had many women hold the door for me...I once had about an 8-10 yo boy hold the door for me..it was the cutest thing..I gave him a big thank you..
 
puggymom

puggymom

Active Member
vraiblonde said:
Now here I am in a completely different location with a very different demographic, and my data findings are still valid.

A gang banger punk looking kid with profanity on his t-shirt is more likely to hold the door for a woman than a well-dressed white professional male. Black women still do not say thank you, and neither do white trash women.

Black men in general are more likely to hold the door than their white counterparts, and blue collar men hold the door almost always, regardless of ethnicity. The exception is loud buffoonish moron white blue collars.

Two groups of men: a pack of black ruffians, being loud and catcalling each other, probably using inappropriate language; and a pack of white ruffians the same. You can bet that the black guys will hold the door for you while the white guys will practically trample you to get in the door first.

This is my observation from frequenting the Sheetz on a daily basis, the post office regularly, and assorted other errand locations.
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I remember when I was 9 months pregnant with my son and I had my (at the time) 19 month old daughter in a stroller. I went to a mall and was struggling to get the door open around my enormous belly and the stroller and when I finally did these three white trashy women just walked right in like I was holding it open for them. A young punk looking guy notices this and comes running over and grabs the door for me so I could get in. He was not even going inside he came over just to get the door for me.
 
JosephIV

JosephIV

New Member
The OP has an observation which is not necessarily an absolute.

I've seen more than a few highly paid white collar types who won't give you the time of day much less hold the door or say thank you.

However, the majority of the white collar types I come in contact with will hold a door for you and thank you if you do it for them.

I had a woman at Navy Federal say "I don't need you to hold the door for me." in a pretty #####y voice. I replied, "I'm not doing this for you, I'm honoring my parent's parenting." and then told her that I could slam the door in her face if she'd like. She just eyed me cautiously.

It seems to be a matter of upbringing. I was raised to hold doors open for others and thank those who do it for me. I also don't believe I am owed anything unlike some of the people who rush past you when you hold a door.

Just remember to say "You're welcome." when they don't thank you. It embarasses them and I don't mind doing it.
 
sockgirl77

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
I hold the door open for anyone behind me. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, pretty, ugly, white collar, blue collar, fat, or stinny. Manners are manners. Common courtesy is something that is lacking nowadays.
 
lovinmaryland

lovinmaryland

Well-Known Member
sockgirl77 said:
I hold the door open for anyone behind me. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, pretty, ugly, white collar, blue collar, fat, or stinny. Manners are manners. Common courtesy is something that is lacking nowadays.
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Wth is a stinny?

But I agree I always hold the door open for people, common courtesy.
 
Cowgirl

Cowgirl

Well-Known Member
I always hold the door, and I always say "thank you" if the door is held for me. Oh, and I always say "you're welcome", even if the person doesn't thank me. :smile: I say it extra loudly in that case.
 
sockgirl77

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Cowgirl said:
I always hold the door, and I always say "thank you" if the door is held for me. Oh, and I always say "you're welcome", even if the person doesn't thank me. :smile: I say it extra loudly in that case.
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I always say thank you and you're welcome loud and clearly at McD's when they don't say it to me which is just about every single time.
 
K_Jo

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
sockgirl77 said:
I hold the door open for anyone behind me. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, pretty, ugly, white collar, blue collar, fat, or stinny. Manners are manners. Common courtesy is something that is lacking nowadays.
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:yeahthat: Except for ugly people. They should stay home.
 
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EmptyTimCup

Guest
vraiblonde said:
SUMMARY:

Nice looking college age guys are #1 when it comes to holding the door, with blue collar types a close second. White collar guys not only slam it in your face, but will race you to get to the door first so they CAN slam it in your face.

The more physically attractive a woman is, the more likely she will thank someone for holding the door. Fat women do not say thank you, and ugly women do not say thank you. Nice looking women also hold the door for other women.

So there you go - just my observation for the week.
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:justwantstocheckyouout:

as you walk in .......
 
oldman

oldman

Lobster Land
Isn't this just today's America? I frequent my liquor store frequently and much to my surprise opening the door for others is just the norm. Thank you's and you're welcome are the norm. You know what types frequently liquor stores so the manners are there so pass them on and perhaps it can be passed on further on down the line. I sure hope so anyway.
 
vraiblonde

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
oldman said:
Isn't this just today's America? I frequent my liquor store frequently and much to my surprise opening the door for others is just the norm. Thank you's and you're welcome are the norm. You know what types frequently liquor stores so the manners are there so pass them on and perhaps it can be passed on further on down the line. I sure hope so anyway.
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Even drunks in a hurry for their bottle of ripple will open a door for a woman before a well-dressed professional man will.

Manners aren't something that the more well-to-do among us either have or pass on. My son has beautiful manners and would never dream of not opening a door or saying please and thank you. This other young man that I have recently come into contact with - his wealthy parents apparently thought he would have servants to do that sort of thing for him.
 
idiganthro

idiganthro

Member
I am a woman and I hold the door for whomever might be behind me, male, female, young, old, whatever race, etc... it's just good manners. I find that most people do the same, and most say thank you. There are always the odd ones out, but there always will be.
 
twinoaks207

twinoaks207

Summer!!!!
I was taught to help others by holding the door for anyone coming after me. What's been most interesting over the years has been the reactions of the older males when I hold a door open for them or God forbid, get there first and open it myself! They just look so hurt and offended, like I insulted their manhood or something. Believe me, guys, it wasn't meant that way! I was just taught to be helpful!

I have since learned that things are much pleasanter all around if we stay in our well-defined gender roles so if we get to the door at the same time, I'm slightly slower to reach out my hand. The men seem to be happier that way. It is a small price to pay for a cease-fire in the male/female superiority wars.












(darn that old Gloria Steinem anyway!) :lmao:
 
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