Spider.....Um...Yeah...

Softballkid

No Longer the Kid
So, I caught this black spider outside, at first I thought it was a black widow, but now I am second guessing this observation since I can't find anything definite on the web, but I'm also not too sure where exactly to look...


Anyway, it has red on its back, and on the belly, now on the belly it isn't really in an hour glass shape... And on the back it is sort of circular looking red spots...


Any suggestions?

Sorry the pics aren't very clear, but the first pic is the back and the 2nd is the belly...
 
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lam2

tickled~pink
From what I've read and this picture I found it looks like a Northern Black Widow. I'm no expert though.
 

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toppick08

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BW....immature female, it would have developed the hourglass in time.
 

Softballkid

No Longer the Kid
I am going to assume that it looks a little smashed now doesn't it?

I don't think that baby girl would be really happy if she got bit

Actually no, we had thrown out an old blender, so it is now locked in there, and until I found out for sure what it was, I didn't want to kill it. So it will prolly die today :whistle:


Weird thing was, when I dumped it out, trying to get pictures, it tried to stayed curled up in a ball... I was using a little stick to try and get to to stand up right to get a good pic, and then spread its legs to get another, but it just "played" dead :tap:

Bastard was playing possum with me :lol:


Shut up :lmao:
 

Softballkid

No Longer the Kid
I understand.........:yay:


Shoulda seen the ants run like hell when I went around spraying all that bug/insect repellant/killer Sunday afternoon :lmao:

For the first time EVER, I seen the queen ant up close and personal...and yes, I gave her ass an extra squirt :lmao:

I also found out, that WD-40, kills the normal red ant :lol:
 

NatureCenter

New Member
Anyway, it has red on its back, and on the belly, now on the belly it isn't really in an hour glass shape... And on the back it is sort of circular looking red spots...

What you have is a female Northern Widow (Latrodectus variolus).

BW....immature female, it would have developed the hourglass in time.

Unlike Southern (L. mactans) and Western (L. hesperus) widows, as adults, Northerns will often retain many of the juvenile dorsal markings i.e. primarily the red spotting, but also occasionally some faint white racing stripes on the sides.

Also, unlike Southern and Westerns, Northerns do NOT have an actual hour glass on their ventral side of the abdomen... what they have is called a "broken" hourglass... i.e. two separate triangles pointed towards each other.

Weird thing was, when I dumped it out, trying to get pictures, it tried to stayed curled up in a ball... I was using a little stick to try and get to to stand up right to get a good pic, and then spread its legs to get another, but it just "played" dead :tap:

Bastard was playing possum with me :lol:

A widow whose web is disturbed will try to defend itself - at first. However, when it becomes apparent to the spider that the offender is not going to leave it alone, it will indeed ball up, drop to the ground and play possum for a while hoping the offender gets bored and wanders away.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I was out leaning on my front railing the other night and I felt a spider on my arm

was a little (no clue what it was but it wasnt of the dangerous to humans variety) spider that was just starting its web.
for some reason, it was using my arm as an anchor..

never experienced that before so I just let it play for about 10 minutes while I watched, it was really pretty cool.

then I yanked my arm away and trashed the little bastards hard work.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
did you know that black widows will nest with the black snake and that some of their DNA gets mixed in during the breeding process and the black snake babies come out with widow poisen?

true story
 
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