Sprinklers to be required in new homes.

[Hijinx]

http://www.somdnews.com/article/201...ire-fire-sprinklers&template=southernMaryland

It's coming so we may as well get acquainted with it.
Big Brother has decided we need to be protected .

Another of those regulations---not laws-- that infringe on us.
Laws are sometimes not good, but we have some input. regulations are just shoved down our throats.

Admittedly sprinklers are a good thing,but are they really necessary?
Most of us have lived our lives without a home burning down around us.
Last year 13 people in this state died in fires.That's up from 9 the previous year.
Would sprinklers have saved all of them? I doubt it, but that is conjecture.

This will add about $10,000 to the cost of a new home the County estimates, but that could be a bit low.

Let's see The County impact fee $4500 dollars.
A well--------------------About $6,000 dollars
Septic Mound and nitrogen tank $30,000 dollars
Survey 3 times---------------------$6,000 dollars
Land cost---------------------------$20,000 dollars
Sprinklers ---------------------- $10,000 dollars

I get about 76.500 dollars before the first cinder block is laid.

I am sure I missed some charges for permits and such. Sure some lots cost more. , It's just a figure to start with.

From what I see the plan would require a 450 gallon water tank and a pump plus the piping
and if the house caught fire when the electric was out it would all be useless.

Anyone have any thoughts pro and con?

 

[Blister]

Where in SOMD are you buying the building lot for 20k?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

After all of the times I have seen sprinklers go off by accident at work there is no way in hell I want a sprinkler system in my house.

 

[GW8345]

Also factor in the increase of house insurance to cover the accidental discharge of the sprinkler systems. There is additional concerns of having a sprinkler system, the concern of the pipes freezing when it's cold out like it has been this past week.

Making sprinkler systems mandatory is just another example that our government is out of control.

 

[Hijinx]

Where in SOMD are you buying the building lot for 20k?

It was just a figure I picked.

 

[Tech]

After all of the times I have seen sprinklers go off by accident at work there is no way in hell I want a sprinkler system in my house.

Wonder what the results would have been if that house up in Annapolis had sprinklers? You can dry things out but you can't unburn them. Also the amount of water is much less than the ones you have at work.

 

[Tech]

Also factor in the increase of house insurance to cover the accidental discharge of the sprinkler systems. There is additional concerns of having a sprinkler system, the concern of the pipes freezing when it's cold out like it has been this past week.

Making sprinkler systems mandatory is just another example that our government is out of control.

Your insurance gets a discount for the sprinkler since it's rare that system miss fire and it's cheaper to dry something thing out than to unburn it.
I favor sprinklers in multi-family dwellings and semi-detached homes but single family should be up to the owner.

 

[Hijinx]

Wonder what the results would have been if that house up in Annapolis had sprinklers? You can dry things out but you can't unburn them. Also the amount of water is much less than the ones you have at work.

Not sure that house didn't have sprinklers.
You see sprinklers are great when the fire is below one sprinkler head. The head goes off and puts out the fire.
But when a sudden fire such as a dried out Christmas tree, or paint remover fumes flashes over, it sets off multiple heads.
When you set off multiple heads the water pressure goes down to each head because the pipe giving the flow only allows so much to flow through it.
The lowered pressure (actually a lower amount of water) cannot supply enough water at adequate pressure to put out the fire,
The system is overwhelmed.

Of course I don't know if that building was sprinklered or not, but I doubt the sprinkler could have handled the amount of fire it was called on to control that fast.

 

[Tech]

Not sure that house didn't have sprinklers.
You see sprinklers are great when the fire is below one sprinkler head. The head goes off and puts out the fire.
But when a sudden fire such as a dried out Christmas tree, or paint remover fumes flashes over, it sets off multiple heads.
When you set off multiple heads the water pressure goes down to each head because the pipe giving the flow only allows so much to flow through it.
The lowered pressure (actually a lower amount of water) cannot supply enough water at adequate pressure to put out the fire,
The system is overwhelmed.

Of course I don't know if that building was sprinklered or not, but I doubt the sprinkler could have handled the amount of fire it was called on to control that fast.

Home sprinklers as opposed to sprinklers in other occupancy are designed to give the occupants more time to escape. Most likely one head would have kept the tree in check if the system is properly designed. If the system is connected to an alarm system, the household is alerted to safely escape or the smoke created would have tripped the smoke detectors.

 

[Hijinx]

Home sprinklers as opposed to sprinklers in other occupancy are designed to give the occupants more time to escape. Most likely one head would have kept the tree in check if the system is properly designed. If the system is connected to an alarm system, the household is alerted to safely escape or the smoke created would have tripped the smoke detectors.

Like I said I don't know what they had, but certainly they had an alarm system, but that house went up fast.
I believe I read where the system alerted the Fire Service.

 

[GW8345]

The issue isn't the merit of sprinklers, the issue is the government mandating something be installed in a private dwelling, just like the government mandating that citizens by something whether or not they want/need it.

It should be up to the citizen and not the government to decide if they want something, when the government mandates something, that's tyranny.

 

[BigBlue]

The issue isn't the merit of sprinklers, the issue is the government mandating something be installed in a private dwelling, just like the government mandating that citizens by something whether or not they want/need it.

It should be up to the citizen and not the government to decide if they want something, when the government mandates something, that's tyranny.

Like seat belts , right ?Safer gas tanks ,right ?No smoking while your pumping gas ,right ? Kids must go to school ,right ? You dumb twit !!!

 

[tommyjo]

The issue isn't the merit of sprinklers, the issue is the government mandating something be installed in a private dwelling, just like the government mandating that citizens by something whether or not they want/need it.

It should be up to the citizen and not the government to decide if they want something, when the government mandates something, that's tyranny.

Oh praise Jesus...another moron who does not understand the meaning of the word tyranny...

 

[Hijinx]

The issue isn't the merit of sprinklers, the issue is the government mandating something be installed in a private dwelling, just like the government mandating that citizens by something whether or not they want/need it.

It should be up to the citizen and not the government to decide if they want something, when the government mandates something, that's tyranny.

I don't think it is tyranny, but it is wrong. IMO

But since Obamacare it is pretty much established that the Government can require almost anything and we are stuck with it.
I suppose it won't be long before they will require sprinklers retroactively or before we can sell our home.
They have us by the balls and they know it.

Once we had a free country, now?????????? Not so much.

Again. Do not worry about the law. It's the regulators that are hosing us down.

 

[Tech]

The issue isn't the merit of sprinklers, the issue is the government mandating something be installed in a private dwelling, just like the government mandating that citizens by something whether or not they want/need it.

It should be up to the citizen and not the government to decide if they want something, when the government mandates something, that's tyranny.

Yea, I hate when government requires fire exits.

 

[GW8345]

Yea, I hate when government requires fire exits.

Please show me where the government requires a private house to have a fire exit.

 

[GW8345]

Like seat belts , right ?Safer gas tanks ,right ?No smoking while your pumping gas ,right ? Kids must go to school ,right ? You dumb twit !!!

Um, guess your not a fan/follower of capitalism are you, would you buy a car without seat belts, would you buy a car that explodes like a Pinto, would you go to a gas station that allowed people to smoke while they pumped their gas, would you hire someone who did not have a HS diploma?

The real question is, how did the sperm that created you win?

 

[GW8345]

Oh praise Jesus...another moron who does not understand the meaning of the word tyranny...

Well, look who it is, our neighborhood dumb ass.

 

[Tech]

Please show me where the government requires a private house to have a fire exit.

Building codes require the windows in sleeping areas and that these windows be of a certain size and height off the floor. This is your second exit by codes. The first exit is that they figure you were smart enough to put in a front door and this also has a minimal size.

 

[GW8345]

Building codes require the windows in sleeping areas and that these windows be of a certain size and height off the floor. This is your second exit by codes. The first exit is that they figure you were smart enough to put in a front door and this also has a minimal size.

What if the fire blocks you from getting to your front and back door and your bedroom is on the third floor of your house?