Starting a Business

SoccerMom2

New Member
My Husband and I would like to start a photography business with two friends of ours. I was wondering if anyone can direct me in the right direction as of where I should start? We are thinking of a name for the business right now and need to get a water mark for the pictures. This business is more of a side job and hopefully over the next year it can turn full time.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
My Husband and I would like to start a photography business with two friends of ours. I was wondering if anyone can direct me in the right direction as of where I should start? We are thinking of a name for the business right now and need to get a water mark for the pictures. This business is more of a side job and hopefully over the next year it can turn full time.

I have a great idea! You do my wedding pictures for free..I put your ad in the wedding program..and you get lots of advertising for all my unmarried friends and family. :buddies:
 

SoccerMom2

New Member
I have a great idea! You do my wedding pictures for free..I put your ad in the wedding program..and you get lots of advertising for all my unmarried friends and family. :buddies:

I haven't done a wedding yet. I am really nervous to do one. My first wedding i will be doing is my Brothers in August. I'm not a pro yet. I hope by next spring/summer i will have it down. Photography started as a hobby but we love it so much we want to turn it into a business. Theres a lot we need to learn about the business aspect of it. But i would to take pictures at your wedding for free and i would fix them up and give you all the pictures on a cd. The only way to get better is to get out there and do it. I will be taking engament pictures of my friends in July also. I will post them so you can see how good they are.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
I haven't done a wedding yet. I am really nervous to do one. My first wedding i will be doing is my Brothers in August. I'm not a pro yet. I hope by next spring/summer i will have it down. Photography started as a hobby but we love it so much we want to turn it into a business. Theres a lot we need to learn about the business aspect of it. But i would to take pictures at your wedding for free and i would fix them up and give you all the pictures on a cd. The only way to get better is to get out there and do it. I will be taking engament pictures of my friends in July also. I will post them so you can see how good they are.

From what I understand (my cousin did this for a bit) weddings are the money makers..that and baby pics. You just have to put up with bridezillas and crazy mommies :killingme If you want to do it, I say go for it. Your pics you have posted have been inventive and pretty. Best thing to do is get your name out there...and then word of mouth. I have had wonderful pics taken by Darrens (sp?) and have passed his name along and my friends have had their babies pics done, senior pics, engagement pics, and such. Good luck sounds like fun!
 

SoccerMom2

New Member
From what I understand (my cousin did this for a bit) weddings are the money makers..that and baby pics. You just have to put up with bridezillas and crazy mommies :killingme If you want to do it, I say go for it. Your pics you have posted have been inventive and pretty. Best thing to do is get your name out there...and then word of mouth. I have had wonderful pics taken by Darrens (sp?) and have passed his name along and my friends have had their babies pics done, senior pics, engagement pics, and such. Good luck sounds like fun!

Practice makes perfect!
 
I would offer two pieces of advice:

(1) If you don't want to spend the money, and create the potential tax issues, involved with incorporating, you should at least establish an LLC for the business to operate within. It's very easy to register an LLC with the state, and an operating agreement is not that hard to do (or have done) either.

(2) The wedding service businesses (assuming you are interested in that) are very word-of-mouth and interconnected. I'd recommend that you do your best to cultivate good relationships with other wedding service providers (e.g. caterers, deejays, cake decorators). If you do, that is where a lot of your business will come from. Usually, people getting married will have someone in the business that they prefer and trust (e.g. a favorite caterer or deejay), and they will often ask those people for recommendations with regard to the other services if they don't have any idea who to use.
 

sanchezf

Little ol' Me
Also have your friends play dress up for you and use them as pratice. They get to have some cool photos and you have some to show new clients.
Start a website, everyone loves to be able to look through it with out someone standing there hounding you..
 

hooknline

New Member
My Husband and I would like to start a photography business with two friends of ours. I was wondering if anyone can direct me in the right direction as of where I should start? We are thinking of a name for the business right now and need to get a water mark for the pictures. This business is more of a side job and hopefully over the next year it can turn full time.

(1) Of course start at the courthouse to get your 17 dollar business license (easy to do)

(2) while you probably don't have the need now, if you have several others outside of your family going in with you and you own homes, you should consider becoming incorporated (Lawyer time)

(3) because you take a chance in ruining pictures of weddings and critical non-replaceable pictures, I would get simple business insurance the day you get your first job tasking (around 500-1500 year depending on coverage). I would do this regardless of your volume of work. This also covers advertisement damage and other related risks.

(4) get a name and after you are sure it will be your chosen name, plan on a website to promote your business and when you get the website, plan on spending the 90dollars a year to secure a "domain name" which is your own internet address protocol. You will be surprised at how much business this brings you. Secure a deal with companies like yahoo or Google to post links on your website to help cover costs and you might even profit (visit the company to get link packages usually around 75 dolllars.)

(5) steer clear of the sales people who want to sell every little thing to a new business. keep it simple and don't overspend on your dream. This includes the yellow pages (extreme expense) which are alot of hype. the internet is where you need to be. Print your own invoices and advertisement flyers. Don;t place inside postal boxes (against the law) you can get a permit with the USPS (cheap) and pay around .20 per parcel peice and you can pick a certain postal route to mail to (visit the postmaster and he will walk you through it). They have numbers for their routes and you will have the amount of houses per route (to control spending too much at one time) and I sugest mailing to only one or two routes at a time while your small time.

(6) the most important is start from the beginning on treating your customers with respect and honoring your committments to them. Customer word of mouth will do the best for you or will destroy you. When you know someone is trying to walk all over you, keep your temper and use tact to decline their request. In other words, try not to tick them off although don't give away your work as others wiill follow. People can be destructive when dealing with business names even when you are innocent.

(7) don't fool around with the IRS. Keep their quarterly payments up to date and follow their rules (visit IRS.gov) make sure you plan on a good tax preparer for your first year as business start up costs and a portion of your home is deductible. You can use one of the computer programs in following years although spend the 600 for a tax pro the first tax year. You will learn alot from him/her and make sure you write down questions before your visit (pick their brain) make sure they are knowlegable and up to date with rules. Research of them is important. I once had a friend who almost paid 30 thousand more then they needed (you won't have even a fraction of this extreme tax bill) and luckily they got a second opinion. remove a portion of your profit at once and set aside for expense. I suggest at least 60% during start up. put it back into the growth of your business.

(8) be prepared to deal with awnry people and don't let it get you down.

(9) all motor vehicles need your company name on it (even if you make your own sign) so you can write off the entire vehicle as business expense and gas for any portion of time you use for your business. The sign can be very small if you want. keep a log book for mileage if you use part time. If during your trip to the post office to mail business related mail, the entire trip is deductible (hint)

(10) Keep any and all receipts the moment you get your business license including personal receipts for grocery and such. Not one receipt goes into the trash.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! critical

(11) try to limit credit as much as possible. Pay as you go and get payment as soon as work is satisfactorly completed. Don't get into the credit crunch.

GOOD LUCK and hope you make it. :howdy:
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
This guy, Dan Heller, presents a ton of useful information...
Starting a Photography Business;
Photo Careers.

Some of what he says will be hard to swallow, but most of it is true. One of his biggest points is that a photography business is foremost a business, thus one needs to have a good head about business or their venture may very soon end up in shambles - regardless how pretty your pictures are.

Second, Chasey is right; if you're "kinda scared" to take pictures of your own family, how can you expect a random person to have confidence in your ability? Selling yourself before you are positive you can crank out a respectable product is unfair to both sides.
 

SoccerMom2

New Member
This guy, Dan Heller, presents a ton of useful information...
Starting a Photography Business;
Photo Careers.

Some of what he says will be hard to swallow, but most of it is true. One of his biggest points is that a photography business is fmost a business, thus one needs to have a good head about business or their venture may very soon end up in shambles - regardless how pretty your pictures are.

Second, Chasey is right; if you're "kinda scared" to take pictures of your own family, how can you expect a random person to have confidence in your ability? Selling yourself before you are positive you can crank out a respectable product is unfair to both sides.

I agree with Chasey 100%. I will be taking classes at the collage and practicing with anyone who is willing to be photograph. I know first hand how it feels to have your wedding pictures ruined. All mine came out yellow and out of focus. A lot of my issues is confidence. I'm lacking some. Hopefully after i do my brothers wedding i'll be ok. I just want to do all the research and make sure i go through all the proper channels.
 

SoccerMom2

New Member
Thank you to everyone for the great advice. It is better to know all the ins and outs before just jumping in and doing it. :buddies:
 
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toppick08

Guest
My only advice is to have a strong constitution and only trust YOU with your bizz.......:yay:
 

spinner

Member
There are things you can try if you are serious about starting this business, offer to take pictures at charity events or fund raisers if they agree to give you picture credit when using your photos, it wouldn't cost much but time, all you would have to provide is a CD with the images on them. Enter contests, not just for the exposure [no pun intended, well maybe little pun] but to hear what the judges say, how they look at your pictures. Things that are good and what can be corrected. The is [or was] a camera club in St. Marys that met at the museum near the base, they had contests and themes within the club, you might be able to learn alot from them. Just listening to them critique each others photos was a lesson in itself. They were a nice bunch of people. Everything is practice, practice, practice. And don't rule out your photos as artwork if you can afford to get some enlarged and nicely framed, notecards too, I sell alot of them. Talk to resturants and doctors offices about hanging them in their business. Promote yourself. If you are worried about weddings and large events then start small and gain your confidence. Just don't forget your reputation is everything in a service business, so take your time and don't rush into anything you aren't comfortable with. I was nervous starting my business too, who wouldn't be? But you don't know until you try.
One last thing, if you want to keep those friends as friends, don't go into business with them. Friends and family shouldn't be business partners. And if they are really good friends the'll understand that.
Best of luck
 
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