St. Mary's Co. Stop construction of Pascal Crisis Service Center in residential area of Charlotte Hall.

[Skid]

Stop construction of Pascal Crisis Service Center in residential area of Charlotte Hall

The Issue​

We the community of Mount Wolf Rd and the surrounding Charlotte Hall area strongly urge the St. Marys County Planning and Zoning Commission to deny the Pascal Crisis Service Center in its proposed location.
Our community is a peaceful, strictly residential community, and this proposed facility - a 16 bed medical crisis center - would fundamentally disrupt the character, safety, and integrity of our community. While we recognize and support the need for crisis and mental health facilities, we believe that the location of these facilities should be in a more appropriate area, with more supporting infrastructure. Not in a residential community with no sidewalks, public water, or sewage systems.
We believe approving this proposed facility would set a troubling president allowing medical and commercial facilities to encroach upon quite, family centered neighborhoods.
We respectfully ask the Commision to preserve the quite nature of the Charlotte Hall communities by denying this proposal.

 

[Grumpy]

:nimby:

 

[phreddyp]

NIMBY azzhole!

 

[TPD]

I just came to post about this. Just got an email from Delegate Matt Morgan. Here is what he wrote:

Dear Friend,

This email is designed as a PSA for residents of Nothern St. Mary's. I am gathering more information about the proposed psychiatric urgent care facility on Mount Wolf Road in Charlotte Hall.

I had no involvement in recruiting or funding this proposed project. My knowledge was limited to the fact that last year's state budget included a line item for the Pascal Center. Like many residents, I find it troubling that a facility of this nature is being proposed in a residential area, particularly when it appears the primary goal is to cater to out-of-county residents.

I look forward to learning more about the funding mechanisms and timeline associated with these decisions as further details become available.

Until then, I would like to share a few important things.

First, residents have started a petition in opposition. I have personally signed the petition; if you are a resident of St. Mary's, I recommend signing as well. Please sign and share: https://chng.it/c2mjvbSdtT



Secondly, the community will have two in-person opportunities to voice their opinion regarding this development. These meetings are crucial as they provide a platform for us to express our concerns directly to the decision-makers.

1) Tuesday, May 6 at 6:30 PM: Public County Commissioners Forum

2) Thursday, May 22 at 6:30 PM: Planning Commission Meeting

Both in-person meetings will be held at the Chesapeake Building, 41770 Baldrige St, Leonardtown, MD.

 

[NorthBeachPerso]

Posting on social media won't do dick if the opponents don't show up to the Public Hearings. And don't just whine about it, have legitimate reasons on why not. Statistics, impact on property values, traffic, etc.

Also, if the Zoning allows it you have a tall hill to climb.

Nit pick:
precedent
Commission

 

[RoseRed]

Commissioner Alderson put out a statement today on Facebook.

 

[Clem72]

I haven't heard anyone describe the function of this psychiatric "urgent care" facility. We have half-way houses and long-term care facilities in residential areas without it generally causing an issue, but this seems like a different animal.

The general description from Google is that it:

provides immediate mental health support, offering rapid access to assessment, crisis intervention, and referrals for further care, particularly for individuals experiencing a mental health crisis or needing urgent psychiatric evaluation

Immediate support makes me think ambulances and people self-admitting while in the process of a mental health crisis. Neither of those are something you really want in a residential neighborhood.

That's less NIMBYism and more being reasonable, we have zoning rules for a reason and one of those reasons is to keep noisy high traffic businesses away from residences.

So maybe the issue is why is this area zoned for commercial if it's all residential homes?

 

[GURPS]

Like many residents, I find it troubling that a facility of this nature is being proposed in a residential area, particularly when it appears the primary goal is to cater to out-of-county residents.

Importing Ferals and mentally unstable to be released into your neighborhoods when the ' crisis ' is over .... because you no damn well they will NOT be giving them a ride back up the road where they came from

 

[phreddyp]

I live in a community that has had numerous sex offenders, drug addicts, and section eight housing not to mention flop houses, most of the time there are no issues at all. If our community can deal with that for over 60 years, you can certainly deal with that use, Quit your fu*kin whining and deal with it! It will be not anywhere as bad as YOU think! I HATE fu*kin NIMBYS! They are selfish pieces of SH*T.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

 

[DoWhat]

Not happening.

The applicant, Pascal Crisis Services, Inc., has officially withdrawn their application for conditional use approval for the proposed project located east of the intersection of MD Route 5 and Mount Wolf Road.

UPDATE: Proposed Crisis Stabilization Center in Charlotte Hall No Longer Planned After Pascal Crisis Services Withdraws Application

St. Mary’s County Government announces that the public hearing regarding the proposed Crisis Stabilization Center in Charlotte Hall—previously announced and scheduled as part of the St. Mary’s County Board of Appeals meeting on Thursday, May 22, 2025—has been cancelled. The applicant, Pascal...

smnewsnet.com

 

[ontheriver]

I will put in my 2cents. On my road, all residential, the County had a house. Maybe 3 residents. There are no shoulders on this road. No problems at first, but in short order the residents were unattended in the street. Basically begging people to confront them. PS One of the residents burned the house to the ground one night. Luckily no one died.

 

[sunshine98]

Not happening.

UPDATE: Proposed Crisis Stabilization Center in Charlotte Hall No Longer Planned After Pascal Crisis Services Withdraws Application

St. Mary’s County Government announces that the public hearing regarding the proposed Crisis Stabilization Center in Charlotte Hall—previously announced and scheduled as part of the St. Mary’s County Board of Appeals meeting on Thursday, May 22, 2025—has been cancelled. The applicant, Pascal...

smnewsnet.com

That was a quick surrender.

 

[Sneakers]

That was a quick surrender.

I'm thinking they went into this expecting resistance but tried it anyway.

Looking at the map, there's lots of open space as you head towards the road that's more likely commercial zoned (saying without looking at a zoning map) and better suited.

 

[glhs837]

I live in a community that has had numerous sex offenders, drug addicts, and section eight housing not to mention flop houses, most of the time there are no issues at all. If our community can deal with that for over 60 years, you can certainly deal with that use, Quit your fu*kin whining and deal with it! It will be not anywhere as bad as YOU think! I HATE fu*kin NIMBYS! They are selfish pieces of SH*T.

Please tell me what community that is.

 

[PrchJrkr]

I will put in my 2cents. On my road, all residential, the County had a house. Maybe 3 residents. There are no shoulders on this road. No problems at first, but in short order the residents were unattended in the street. Basically begging people to confront them. PS One of the residents burned the house to the ground one night. Luckily no one died.

This is the kind of sh!t the mental institutions were there for. Mental is mental, whether it's a natural imbalance or self induced psychosis due to drug abuse. These people need treatment, not coddling. They need to be separated from society to get the help they need, not plopped down in a residential area that people expect to be safe. I can remember when they were located far out from population centers and they didn't cause any problems with normal folks.

 

[ontheriver]

This is the kind of sh!t the mental institutions were there for. Mental is mental, whether it's a natural imbalance or self induced psychosis due to drug abuse. These people need treatment, not coddling. They need to be separated from society to get the help they need, not plopped down in a residential area that people expect to be safe. I can remember when they were located far out from population centers and they didn't cause any problems with normal folks.

It's sad all the way around. What makes me crazy is knowing just how many are out there with no family, no advocate. Many are neglected, abused and worse. My sister is mentally and physically disabled since birth. I am her legal conservator. She is in a wonderful home with her caregiver. She is very happy. But, I know all too well how lucky she is. I've seen firsthand how terrible some of those people's lives are. It's heartbreaking.

I don't know the answer. However, just being dropped in a small neighborhood with no oversight is the wrong answer.

 

[phreddyp]

Please tell me what community that is.

Drum Point

 

[my-thyme]

I'm thinking they went into this expecting resistance but tried it anyway.

Looking at the map, there's lots of open space as you head towards the road that's more likely commercial zoned (saying without looking at a zoning map) and better suited.

Commercial zoned was most likely more pricey.

 

[glhs837]

I live in a community that has had numerous sex offenders, drug addicts, and section eight housing not to mention flop houses, most of the time there are no issues at all. If our community can deal with that for over 60 years, you can certainly deal with that use, Quit your fu*kin whining and deal with it! It will be not anywhere as bad as YOU think! I HATE fu*kin NIMBYS! They are selfish pieces of SH*T.

Drum Point

Drum Point? Ever been to Patuxent Homes? Spring Valley? The Great Mills trailer parks? You do have those things. And with ten registered sex offenders in one mile, that's pretty dense. But when I look at demographics, you live in a pretty nice place. I'll note you lack any mental health service providers. Which is the key point. If you lived near one, you would know that there's a reason for the stigma.

Not all concern is nimbyism. Some is valid. There are better places to site a place to care for those in a mental health crisis than a place like Drum Point or the proposed site. What would be the benefit of placing it there other than cheap land?