Strange Neighboorhood - you cannot wash your car
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I like to see that ordinance in writing. Public View? So would not going to a do it yourself car wash be considered public view? Christ all Mighty.
Probably Garden City
and I could understand if some guy was running a detailing business in HIS drive way and the street was clogged with 2 or 3 cars sitting in front of HIS house. but here is a guy washing his OWN car ...
Senseless.
Railroad
Routinely Derailed
Note to self: be in a casket before considering a move to Garden City
TPD
the poor dad
I did wonder about that.
MarieB
New Member
The two men who took the video appeared dumbfounded when the officer told them that there was a village ordinance against washing cars in public places, but the officer came prepared with a printed copy of the unusual law, saying “I’m not making this… up” when presenting it to the car owners.
In addition to prohibiting the cleaning of a variety of fabrics in public spaces, Section 178-3 under Article II of the Garden City village ordinances states that “no person shall wash or cause to be washed any motor vehicle or like conveyance upon any public street, highway or public place.”
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The officer seemed aware of how far out of the ordinary the local law lies—when initially asked by one of the youths whether there was a problem, he responded with “Yeah… the problem being your neighbor doesn’t like you,” citing an angry neighbor as the cause for his visit rather than a need to prevent town residents from washing their cars.
Neighbor Calls Police on Man in Garden City for Washing Car | LongIsland.com
In addition to prohibiting the cleaning of a variety of fabrics in public spaces, Section 178-3 under Article II of the Garden City village ordinances states that “no person shall wash or cause to be washed any motor vehicle or like conveyance upon any public street, highway or public place.”
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The officer seemed aware of how far out of the ordinary the local law lies—when initially asked by one of the youths whether there was a problem, he responded with “Yeah… the problem being your neighbor doesn’t like you,” citing an angry neighbor as the cause for his visit rather than a need to prevent town residents from washing their cars.
Neighbor Calls Police on Man in Garden City for Washing Car | LongIsland.com
I think some people should be going after this particular officers job for allowing himself to be put into a neighbors dispute. He knows that there is no reason to take this statute to this level, yet he still did.
Bold part: A private driveway isn't a public street. And the neighbor probably cited the law when demanding the cop intervene. That's probably why there was no ticket - just a warning.
itsrequired
New Member
Police officers get involved in neighbors disputes all the time. That is a large part of the volume of calls for service for officers. What is the officer to do, when one neighbor complains about another neighbor violating a city ordinance? Ignore the complaint call because the officer agrees the ordinance is stupid?
So how is it that you can see someone "going after this particular officers job"? On what grounds do you think the officer should be dismissed, if he is responding to a legitimate citizens complaint?
Don't you think someone should be going after the legislator who wrote that ordinances job and not the cop who is put in the position of having to enforce it?
Tech
Well-Known Member
Nothing wrong with the ordinance, it's the interpretation of the ordinance by the cop that is the problem. By most codes the driveway would not be considered a public place, public places are such things as parks and schools. Guess the high school teams can't have a car wash.
itsrequired
New Member
I wouldn't think washing a car in a drive way is a public space either, but I don't have the ordinance or the case law for that area. The officer works in that area and was called to the location by his Lieutenant. Either they are incorrect or they have more information than we.
That's where a discussion should have taken place between the Cop and his Shift Supervisor or whomever makes the call. "What are we considering a Public Place?"
If my driveway is going to be considered a Public Place, do I no longer have the right to have people removed? Can anyone who choses park there?
The ordinance needs clarification.
Village of Garden City, NY Washing on Streets and Sidewalks
Note the Article's Title says "Street and Sidewalks". Content further adds Public Places
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Tech
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Okay,according to this cop, if my development was located in Garden City, I couldn't clean a thing since all of my property is visible from a public street.
Trying to guess what happen to enact such a law, my guess it was in response to actions done by certain business. There may been an auto dealer cleaning cars outside the shop on the street, merchants on Main St. cleaning door mats/rugs in front of their shops and such. Somewhere in the town code should be a definition of a public place.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Having to watch people work or actually do something, would hurt the feelings and wound the self worth of the entitlement class.. you can't actually DO anything where they might see work..
The cop had mentioned driving by there seeing a set of tags being swapped from vehicle to vehicle. He was probably already watching them, maybe even from previous complaints.
It could be that the cop simply pulled this hazy ordinance up as a reason to check these guys out. Did ya see him writing down there VIN?
I dunno but either way if I were a homeowner up there I would want clarification on the term public area. If it's public the city can replace my driveway and cut my grass too.
Unless you're Mexican.