Study Debunks Theory On Teen Sex, Delinquency

[nhboy]

"Researchers at Ohio State University garnered little attention in February when they found that youngsters who lose their virginity earlier than their peers are more likely to become juvenile delinquents. So obvious and well established was the contribution of early sex to later delinquency that the idea was already part of the required curriculum for federal "abstinence only" programs.

There was just one problem: It is probably not true. Other things being equal, a more probing study has found, youngsters who have consensual sex in their early-teen or even preteen years are, if anything, less likely to engage in delinquent behavior later on."

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[vraiblonde]

There was just one problem: It is probably not true. Other things being equal, a more probing study has found, youngsters who have consensual sex in their early-teen or even preteen years are, if anything, less likely to engage in delinquent behavior later on."

Um, aren't young and pre-teens who have sex *already* engaging in delinquent behavior?

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Um, aren't young and pre-teens who have sex *already* engaging in delinquent behavior?

what makes it delinquent? its natural and something all people do (ok, bold statement but there are few exceptions lol...) eventually. Just because they happen to do it earlier than other people doesn't make them delinquent...

do i think that early sexual activity leads or contributes at all to delinquency, no. do i think these kids are more likely to engage in delinquency, yes.

REASON BEING

kids that are having sex that young are obviously under less observation and restriction from their parents. if the parents are leaving them to do their own thing often enough then the kids are ALMOST always bound to engage in delinquent behavior. that is at least my observation on the subject

 

[vraiblonde]

what makes it delinquent? its natural and something all people do (ok, bold statement but there are few exceptions lol...) eventually. Just because they happen to do it earlier than other people doesn't make them delinquent...

Pre-teen would be under the age of 13. So you're saying that you think 11 and 12 year olds having sex is completely fine in your book, and no cause for alarm?

 

[Novus Collectus]

Um, aren't young and pre-teens who have sex *already* engaging in delinquent behavior?

That would depend on the state. In some states I hear there are no laws barring (addressing) a pre-teen having sex with another pre-teen.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Pre-teen would be under the age of 13. So you're saying that you think 11 and 12 year olds having sex is completely fine in your book, and no cause for alarm?

cause for alarm, sure. I totally agree.

is it a delinquent act?

lets ask google...

Definitions of delinquent on the Web:

guilty of a minor misdeed; "delinquent minors"
derelict: failing in what duty requires; "derelict (or delinquent) in his duty"; "neglectful of his duties"; "remiss of you not to pay your bills"
persistently bad; "school for delinquent boys"
a young offender
past due; not paid at the scheduled time; "an overdue installment"; "a delinquent account"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Definitions of delinquency on the Web:

A period that begins on the day after the due date of a payment when the borrower fails to make the equivalent of one full payment.
https://loanlink.nelliemae.com/NLMANav.asp

The commission of an illegal act by a juvenile.
Glossary of Legal Terms

The failure to make scheduled monthly loan payments when they are due.
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I'd say no. I mean, we're talking about consensual sex here...its nothing that is illegal...

the age of 12 is about what, 6-7th grade? thats about when i started being REALLY interested in the ladies and when sex-ed occurs...so why is it so hard of a concept that kids can be having sex at this age? Obviously the board of ed thinks they can be or else sex-ed would be taught in a later grade.

I would not classify someone having sex at the age that people used to be getting married as being a delinquent...

NOR would i like to hear that my child that age were having sex...
thats a parenting decision though. most of the kids having sex at that age are not being cared for very well by their parents. they are left to do whatever they want really. I know that through at least middleschool my parents were on my azz enough to where i wouldn't have had time to sneak around having sex lol. I'd have rather played sports at that age though...but people mature differently :shrug:


My point...
I totally agree that pre-teen is young to be having sex, but i do not consider it delinquent, nor that it leads to delinquency.

Ha, and just thinking about it, most of the girls weren't even developed at that age right? like, they were just starting for the most part...thats kinda funny cuz its like...what are the boys so oogly over? lol

 

[vraiblonde]

I'd say no. I mean, we're talking about consensual sex here...its nothing that is illegal...

However, in most states, a pre-teen cannot consent, which is why people get charged with statutory rape and aggravated assault of a minor. So if the kid cannot legally consent, then there is no consensual sex, n'est-ce pas?

And if the kid "consents" anyway, they are breaking the law, which would fall under the definition of "delinquency".

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

However, in most states, a pre-teen cannot consent, which is why people get charged with statutory rape and aggravated assault of a minor. So if the kid cannot legally consent, then there is no consensual sex, n'est-ce pas?

And if the kid "consents" anyway, they are breaking the law, which would fall under the definition of "delinquency".

hmmmm

fair enough...

except for the bolded statement...

it isn't breaking the law to say you consent to sex...it is illegal to have sex with someone who doesn't legally consent...but i'd have to look up the laws to know exactly what they are...i know the age of consent in MD is 16...but isn't that just to have sex with someone who is considered an adult?

and i do understand that by me saying "it isn't illegal to consent, but if the other person can't legally consent then the sex is illegal" may be confusing...but just trust me that i was only saying the statement you made was a little.."off".

but i see your point IF the age of consent even applies to other minors...which i'd have to say it must or everyone under 16 having sex could be getting statutory rape charges....

so, point taken

 

[Novus Collectus]

However, in most states, a pre-teen cannot consent, which is why people get charged with statutory rape and aggravated assault of a minor. So if the kid cannot legally consent, then there is no consensual sex, n'est-ce pas?

And if the kid "consents" anyway, they are breaking the law, which would fall under the definition of "delinquency".

The adult would be delinquent and a criminal, but what could the pre-teen be charged with to make them "delinquent"?

 

[ItalianScallion]

First, NO one should be having sex that young. Their minds are NOT ready for the emotional ups & downs and it does cause serious mental damage. I've seen it first hand in dealing with young girls wanting to commit suicide after an emotional break up when no sex was involved. You can imagine what would have happened if they had done it. And, of course, I've seen those cases too. They're much worse.
Second, their having sex is only a symptom of the larger problem that will later contribute to their delinquency.
Finally, NO "study" covers everybody so the statement that early sexual activity doesn't cause delinquency, is true in some cases but not all. There wil be consequences to any sexual activity outside of marriage.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

There wil be consequences to any sexual activity outside of marriage.

So...just curious...

is EVERYBODY on these boards doomed...or just the majority...?

o, and novus...

The adult would be delinquent and a criminal, but what could the pre-teen be charged with to make them "delinquent"?

she is talkin about two pre-teens having sex with each other. neither can "legally" give consent according to her arguement, which i kinda agree with cuz i don't know the law exactly. she isn't talkin about an adult doing it with a teen or whatever

 

[ItalianScallion]

If the shoe fits...
If it walks like a duck...
It applies to everyone, everywhere.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

If the shoe fits...
If it walks like a duck...
It applies to everyone, everywhere.

o, i was just saying that


in todays society especially


the numbers of people who have sex out of wedlock are astronomical. are you saying that everybody is going to get punished for this? matter-of-fact...i would prefer not to get into a religious debate here, SO, i'll take your view as being that of "correct" and bow down..

i'll check the box that says "doomed for life and proud of it" thanks

 

[ItalianScallion]

o, i was just saying that
in todays society especially
the numbers of people who have sex out of wedlock are astronomical. are you saying that everybody is going to get punished for this? matter-of-fact...i would prefer not to get into a religious debate here, SO, i'll take your view as being that of "correct" and bow down..

i'll check the box that says "doomed for life and proud of it" thanks

I wouldn't say doomed for life because we all can "recover" from our pasts with God's help. But you're completely correct about "The numbers of people who have sex out of wedlock are astronomical" and the punishment is; disfunctional families, kids left to raise themselves, kids from broken homes, high divorce rate, abortions, juvenile delinquency, youth pregnancies, youth crimes, teen suicides, teen drug abuse, etc. I won't get too "religious" here but God did say; Save it for marriage and stay married. This alone would greatly reduce the numbers of the above mentioned issues.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

I wouldn't say doomed for life because we all can "recover" from our pasts with God's help. But you're completely correct about "The numbers of people who have sex out of wedlock are astronomical" and the punishment is; disfunctional families, kids left to raise themselves, kids from broken homes, high divorce rate, abortions, juvenile delinquency, youth pregnancies, youth crimes, teen suicides, teen drug abuse, etc. I won't get too "religious" here but God did say; Save it for marriage and stay married. This alone would greatly reduce the numbers of the above mentioned issues.

did he not also mention somethin about spreading your seed on the ground or something? like, referring to a guy masturbating? that means that all people (or at least males) that masturbate are going to be punished for it? (so basically...thats like every guy ever i think lol...i know "you can ask for forgiveness..ect" i'm just saying lol) I just don't buy all of this bible bs being relevant to today's society, BUT, if when I die and pass on and you can say "I told ya so", then i will just laugh and wish you the best afterlife possible

but anyway, my workday is over so i'm in too happy of a mood for a debate, much less a religious one lol. Have a great day.