Suicide the question of the answer

cdsulhoff

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I should also say having a strong support system helps too.. My hubby, mom, and mother in law were there for me all the way. I even had friends that came over to help me get through the 6 weeks of HELL! It took 6 weeks for those meds to kick in.. I am just glad I can go a whole day without feeling like I am going to die..
 
kwillia

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cattitude said:
I think it's rambling.

I actually think Julz and Pandora were dead on.
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Yes to the karma. Yes to the "it's rambling", but I also think I understood what she was trying to say.... in a nutshell, mental illness can't be fixed, only surpressed and that only works as long as the unbalanced person is consistent with his/her meds... the 2nd piece I got out of the rambling was that people don't have to cater to unbalanced people and accept their behavior when they are off their meds. I don't see where the context of what Kain is saying is any different than the context of what Pandora said. Kain just thinks she is saying something different... she must be off her meds...:biggrin:

Oh yeah... there is a big difference between mental imbalance and insanity. Kain was wrong to refer to them both as the same.
 
Chain729

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KevinL650 said:
Okay have been doing some reading and it says that bi-polar is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Somethng about the brain not producing the chemicals it needs to avoid being clinically depressed. So I take this to mean that if medicated then she can get "better" or at least be on a more even level. It also says that many bi-polar people become suicidal. Some of them even succeed as she almost did in November. It also says it is not an attention seeker but a cry for help and not knowing how to ask for it. Am I understanding this correctly?
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Depression is uni-polar. Bi-polar is just that, bi-polar: mania and depression and sometimes both. Bi-polar patients have a shorter life expectancy for three reasons:

1. Clinical depression (not whatever crap people toss the label at) sucks and this should be obvious

2. Mixed episodes lead to suicide. Kinda easy when you're so emotionally confused you don't know which way is up. Imagine being sadder than you ever have but having the energy of the energizer bunny, or vice versa, or seriously being happy and sad at the same time and don't know what you feel.

3. Manic episodes lead to saying f*** the consequences, and doing something stupid aka highly risky behaviour.

Ironically, bi-polar's tend to fall into one of two camps: The worthless or dead, and those that run the planet- CEO's, politicians, authors, to name a few. Don't seem to be much of the in-between.

I'm tired of beating around the bush. You're friend was looking for attention amongst other things- believe whatever you want. I highly doubt she's bi-polar. I have very little doubt she has a severe case of borderline personality disorder- her actions here were text-book. I could write a novel about why, but you won't believe a word I say- I've been in your shoes, that's the other reason I told you to look it up.
 
Chain729

Chain729

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kwillia said:
Yes to the karma. Yes to the "it's rambling", but I also think I understood what she was trying to say.... in a nutshell, mental illness can't be fixed, only surpressed and that only works as long as the unbalanced person is consistent with his/her meds... the 2nd piece I got out of the rambling was that people don't have to cater to unbalanced people and accept their behavior when they are off their meds. I don't see where the context of what Kain is saying is any different than the context of what Pandora said. Kain just thinks she is saying something different... she must be off her meds...:biggrin:

Oh yeah... there is a big difference between mental imbalance and insanity. Kain was wrong to refer to them both as the same.
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Meds are not the holy grail of solutions and often cause more problems than they solve.
 
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Chain729 said:
Depression is uni-polar. Bi-polar is just that, bi-polar: mania and depression and sometimes both. Bi-polar patients have a shorter life expectancy for three reasons:

1. Clinical depression (not whatever crap people toss the label at) sucks and this should be obvious

2. Mixed episodes lead to suicide. Kinda easy when you're so emotionally confused you don't know which way is up. Imagine being sadder than you ever have but having the energy of the energizer bunny, or vice versa, or seriously being happy and sad at the same time and don't know what you feel.

3. Manic episodes lead to saying f*** the consequences, and doing something stupid aka highly risky behaviour.

Ironically, bi-polar's tend to fall into one of two camps: The worthless or dead, and those that run the planet- CEO's, politicians, authors, to name a few. Don't seem to be much of the in-between.

I'm tired of beating around the bush. You're friend was looking for attention amongst other things- believe whatever you want. I highly doubt she's bi-polar. I have very little doubt she has a severe case of borderline personality disorder- her actions here were text-book. I could write a novel about why, but you won't believe a word I say- I've been in your shoes, that's the other reason I told you to look it up.
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And Narcissistic people run our county (relating to your 2nd to last paragraph) :lmao:

In your last paragraph, I want to add this "living inside the addiction makes you blind to it." Her behavior is normal addict behavior. She will not understand that, now, but she may/will/could realize that once she looks back on her addiction, later.

I read an incredible book last year called Deadly Emotions that describes what you said in the first 1/2 half of your post. If you don't control your emotions, they will eat and destroy your life.

BTW, I don't know where my post went from last night. The hotel computer I was on was having some serious pop up ad issues.
 
Chain729

Chain729

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Pandora said:
And Narcissistic people run our county (relating to your 2nd to last paragraph) :lmao:

In your last paragraph, I want to add this "living inside the addiction makes you blind to it." Her behavior is normal addict behavior. She will not understand that, now, but she may/will/could realize that once she looks back on her addiction, later.

I read an incredible book last year called Deadly Emotions that describes what you said in the first 1/2 half of your post. If you don't control your emotions, they will eat and destroy your life.

BTW, I don't know where my post went from last night. The hotel computer I was on was having some serious pop up ad issues.
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I could've added narcissts, but I chose to keep it about BPD. But, yes, most of the "Country Runners" are one or the other. :lol:

As to the addict behaviour, that quote is absolutely true, but I saw more than just what was typical of an addict in this thread. The few hour long mood swings, attention seeking, splitting, not seeing the whole picture, etc.

I'll have to look into that book...
 
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