Supreme Court to Tackle Violent Video Games

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EmptyTimCup

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apparently a ruling is forthcoming ...



Supreme Court to Tackle Violent Video Games


Videogame designers at ZeniMax Media Inc.'s Bethesda Softworks destroyed a virtual U.S. Capitol, Jefferson Memorial and other landmarks in the Mature-rated "Fallout 3," which depicts the ruins of post-apocalyptic Washington.

They didn't bother to obliterate the U.S. Supreme Court. But in the real world, that's where the $10.5 billion videogame industry faces its greatest threat. On Tuesday, the court's nine justices will consider whether to strip First Amendment protection from violent videogames that critics say appeal to the deviant interests of children.

A 2005 California law prohibits selling or renting such games to minors based on legislative findings that they stimulate "feelings of aggression," reduce "activity in the frontal lobes of the brain" and promote "violent antisocial or aggressive behavior." The law never took effect because lower courts found it violated free-expression rights.
 
We've been waiting on this decision for a while - hard to figure out why it has taken so long. Four decisions were released this morning, but this one was not among them - the next opportunity for it to be released is Thursday.
 

Pete

Repete
legislative findings

This part is laughable. Legislative findings means what? 4 idiot state representatives sat in a room and came to the conclusion so it is a "Legislative finding"?
 

royhobie

hobieflyer
apparently a ruling is forthcoming ...

Your post is very accurate. However, I suspect that violent video games, like it or not, will be protected under the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment, as well as Freedom of Expression. The intent of Free Speech and Freedom of Expression was never intended to be an "excuse" for violent games. The Court should find a balance in protecting the public from excessive violence for brains that are not fully developed in children and at the same time including the First Amendment.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
Your post is very accurate. However, I suspect that violent video games, like it or not, will be protected under the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment, as well as Freedom of Expression. The intent of Free Speech and Freedom of Expression was never intended to be an "excuse" for violent games. The Court should find a balance in protecting the public from excessive violence for brains that are not fully developed in children and at the same time including the First Amendment.

Keep the mature ratings in place and let the PARENTS decide what is right for their kids. It IS NOT THE JOB OF THE USSC TO DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR KIDS! If they start banning violent images in video games then what's next? Boxing? MMA? Baseball? Cartoons? Literature?
 
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EmptyTimCup

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some weak minded persons might be influenced .......



but the Dalhmer did not have video games to get him started ....


I have been play these games for 15 yrs (Postal or Manhunter Never Thrilled me) I don't go around capping people my son and I used to play Half Life death match .... when he was younger than 10 .... he turned out fine ... and his 5 yr old sister used to watch .....


"..... daddy, did you kill Eddie again ..... "

.... yes dear I did .....


:whistle:
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
How about the Supreme Court tackles the stupid parents that buy there 10 yr olds the Violent Video Games...
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that we get a ruling in this case today. It was argued back in November and every case argued before it has already been decided. The Supreme Court's term is winding down now, so we should be getting the remaining opinions at an accelerated rate.

Keep the mature ratings in place and let the PARENTS decide what is right for their kids. It IS NOT THE JOB OF THE USSC TO DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR KIDS! If they start banning violent images in video games then what's next? Boxing? MMA? Baseball? Cartoons? Literature?

It wouldn't be the USSC deciding what is right for our kids. It's California that is purporting to do that. The Supreme Court is just deciding whether California is violating the Constitution in doing so.
 
Four more opinions were issued this morning, but this one remains undecided. It can't be much longer now, there aren't a lot of undecided cases left from this term.


EDIT: We got four decisions today, but we actually only got three opinions. Flores-Villar v U.S. was affirmed by an equally divided court with no opinion being issued.
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
The fact that they would even take this case baffles me. I mean it makes about as much sense to ban 'violent' video games as it does to ban the TV sets that display them. Once they make such a decision, don't they have to decide what constitutes 'violence' in terms of what's dangerous to children? Where will the line be drawn?
 
I'm going to go out on that same limb and predict that this is one of the cases decided today. Of course, as we get closer to the end of the Court's term, that limb gets sturdier.
 
The fact that they would even take this case baffles me. I mean it makes about as much sense to ban 'violent' video games as it does to ban the TV sets that display them. Once they make such a decision, don't they have to decide what constitutes 'violence' in terms of what's dangerous to children? Where will the line be drawn?

If you're opposed to these kinds of laws (which is what I infer from your post), wouldn't you want the Supreme Court to take this kind of case and make it clear that they aren't permitted? Again, it wasn't the Supreme Court that enacted the law, it is just doing its job and determining whether or not that law violates the Constitution (after having been asked to do so).
 
Six more cases were decided this morning, but this one was not among them. It pretty much has to come next week.

The Anna Nicole case was decided this morning - in short, her estate lost.
 
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EmptyTimCup

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I guess today is it then ..........



nothing like waiting until the last
 
Here is the decision. The Court ruled that the California law violates the First Amendment and affirmed the Ninth Circuit's decision permanently enjoining its enforcement.

Justice Scalia wrote for the Court, joined by Justices Kennedy, Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Kagan. Justice Alito wrote an opinion concurring in judgment, which was joined by Chief Justice Roberts. Justice Thomas wrote a dissenting opinion, as did Justice Breyer. So, for those keeping score, it looks like there were 7 votes to strike down the law and 2 to uphold it (at least facially).
 
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:buddies:


can you summarize at some point the decanting Justices argument ...


I agree we should keep violent video games from 10 yr olds, although I think PARENTING is the bigger issue .......... we did not have such things when Dalhmer was munching Asians in the 90's
 
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