Supremes put an end to thieving County and State Governments!!!

David

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PREMO Member
I always wondered what happened to people who lost their homes because of unpaid property taxes. Does the government give them back whatever is left over after they pay themselves?

Well, in many states the answer is NO! The thieving bastards simply pocket everything and tell their victim to Piss Off! The victims in some cases tried to sue to recover the money and of course the state courts twisted the law to rule against them. Some states have legislators who are decent humans and they have passed laws requiring leftover equity to go back to the property owner, but many more continue their crimes of greed.

Finally, the Supreme Court of the USA has ruled against this practice. They have stated that this is clearly unconstitutional based on the Takings Clause.

Their ruling is here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/22-166_8n59.pdf

NoteGPT summarizes the document as follows:

Summary

The Supreme Court case Tyler v. Hennepin County addresses the constitutionality of Hennepin County, Minnesota’s practice of retaining surplus funds from the sale of a property seized for unpaid taxes. After Geraldine Tyler’s condominium was sold for $40,000 to cover a $15,000 tax debt, the county retained the $25,000 surplus, prompting Tyler to sue. The Court ruled that Hennepin County’s retention of the surplus violated the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment, which prohibits taking private property without just compensation. The ruling emphasized that states cannot appropriate more property than owed, a principle rooted in historical legal practices dating back to the Magna Carta. The case underscores the importance of property rights and the constitutional protections against government overreach.

Key Insights

-- The Supreme Court ruled that retaining surplus funds from a tax-sale violates the Takings Clause.

-- The case highlights the constitutional principle that states cannot take more property than is owed for debts.

-- Historical legal practices, including the Magna Carta, support the notion of just compensation when property is seized.

-- The ruling emphasizes the importance of property rights and legal precedents in protecting taxpayers from government actions.

-- The decision may influence similar cases nationwide regarding property seizure and surplus retention.

Frequently Asked Questions

What was the main issue in Tyler v. Hennepin County?


The main issue was whether Hennepin County’s retention of $25,000 from the sale of Geraldine Tyler’s property, after covering her tax debt, constituted a violation of the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment.

How does the Takings Clause relate to this case?

The Takings Clause prohibits the government from taking private property for public use without just compensation, which the Court found was violated when the county kept the surplus.

What historical principles did the Court reference in its decision?

The Court referenced historical legal principles dating back to the Magna Carta and early American statutes, which established that governments cannot seize more property than is necessary to satisfy a tax debt.

How might this ruling affect future property seizure cases?

The ruling sets a precedent that may influence how courts handle cases related to property seizures and the rights of taxpayers to recover surplus funds after tax sales.

Attorney Steve Lehto also discusses the situation:

 

Rommey

Well-Known Member
Now if they would apply this same logic (i.e., Takings Clause) to the Civil Asset Forfeiture scams the local, state, and federal governments are abusing and force them to prove the assets were a direct result of criminal activity...in a reasonable amount of time, then we would be making progress.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
There are people who got rich by watching the tax issues on property.
Buying on the cheap because most of us do not watch it and taking advantage of the poverty of others.
The poor and the aged are the usual victims of a tax sale of property.

Vultures who watch every day for property in trouble. Bad system that will get worse with increased property taxes.

I have no study, but I know that I pay insurance on my house, my car, my health, on my life even, I pay taxes when I buy things, taxes on my property, on my car and tags on my car, taxes on my savings and when I die taxes on my estate that I already paid taxes on.
I would say that better than half of all money I earn goes toward taxes and insurance and on the money I earn. I will have to add it up one day and see if I am right.
 
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