That is the kind of people who are on watch...

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John Kelly's Speech About Marines In Ramadi - Business Insider


Five years ago, two Marines from two different walks of life who had literally just met were told to stand guard in front of their outpost's entry control point.

Minutes later, they were staring down a big blue truck packed with explosives. With this particular shred of hell bearing down on them, they stood their ground.

I had heard the story many times, personally. But until today I had never heard Marine Lt. Gen. John Kelly's telling of it to a packed house in 2010. Just four days following the death of his own son in combat, Kelly eulogized two other sons in an unforgettable manner.

From Kelly's speech:

Two years ago when I was the Commander of all U.S. and Iraqi forces, in fact, the 22nd of April 2008, two Marine infantry battalions, 1/9 “The Walking Dead,” and 2/8 were switching out in Ramadi. One battalion in the closing days of their deployment going home very soon, the other just starting its seven-month combat tour.

Two Marines, Corporal Jonathan Yale and Lance Corporal Jordan Haerter, 22 and 20 years old respectively, one from each battalion, were assuming the watch together at the entrance gate of an outpost that contained a makeshift barracks housing 50 Marines.

The same broken down ramshackle building was also home to 100 Iraqi police, also my men and our allies in the fight against the terrorists in Ramadi, a city until recently the most dangerous city on earth and owned by Al Qaeda. Yale was a dirt poor mixed-race kid from Virginia with a wife and daughter, and a mother and sister who lived with him and he supported as well. He did this on a yearly salary of less than $23,000. Haerter, on the other hand, was a middle class white kid from Long Island.

They were from two completely different worlds. Had they not joined the Marines they would never have met each other, or understood that multiple America’s exist simultaneously depending on one’s race, education level, economic status, and where you might have been born. But they were Marines, combat Marines, forged in the same crucible of Marine training, and because of this bond they were brothers as close, or closer, than if they were born of the same woman.

The mission orders they received from the sergeant squad leader I am sure went
something like: “Okay you two clowns, stand this post and let no unauthorized
personnel or vehicles pass.” “You clear?” I am also sure Yale and Haerter then rolled their eyes and said in unison something like: “Yes Sergeant,” with just enough attitude that made the point without saying the words, “No kidding sweetheart, we know what we’re doing.” They then relieved two other Marines on watch and took up their post at the entry control point of Joint Security Station Nasser, in the Sophia section of Ramadi, al Anbar, Iraq.

A few minutes later a large blue truck turned down the alley way—perhaps 60-70
yards in length—and sped its way through the serpentine of concrete jersey walls. The truck stopped just short of where the two were posted and detonated, killing them both catastrophically. Twenty-four brick masonry houses were damaged or destroyed. A mosque 100 yards away collapsed. The truck’s engine came to rest two hundred yards away knocking most of a house down before it stopped.

Our explosive experts reckoned the blast was made of 2,000 pounds of explosives. Two died, and because these two young infantrymen didn’t have it in their DNA to run from danger, they saved 150 of their Iraqi and American brothers-in-arms.

When I read the situation report about the incident a few hours after it happened I
called the regimental commander for details as something about this struck me as
different. Marines dying or being seriously wounded is commonplace in combat. We expect Marines regardless of rank or MOS to stand their ground and do their duty, and even die in the process, if that is what the mission takes. But this just seemed different.

The regimental commander had just returned from the site and he agreed, but reported that there were no American witnesses to the event—just Iraqi police. I figured if there was any chance of finding out what actually happened and then to decorate the two Marines to acknowledge their bravery, I’d have to do it as a combat award that requires two eye-witnesses and we figured the bureaucrats back in Washington would never buy Iraqi statements. If it had any chance at all, it had to come under the signature of a general officer.

I traveled to Ramadi the next day and spoke individually to a half-dozen Iraqi
police all of whom told the same story. The blue truck turned down into the alley and immediately sped up as it made its way through the serpentine. They all said, “We knew immediately what was going on as soon as the two Marines began firing.” The Iraqi police then related that some of them also fired, and then to a man, ran for safety just prior to the explosion.

All survived. Many were injured … some seriously. One of the Iraqis elaborated and with tears welling up said, “They’d run like any normal man would to save his life.”

What he didn’t know until then, he said, and what he learned that very instant, was that Marines are not normal. Choking past the emotion he said, “Sir, in the name of God no sane man would have stood there and done what they did.”

“No sane man.”

“They saved us all.”

What we didn’t know at the time, and only learned a couple of days later after I
wrote a summary and submitted both Yale and Haerter for posthumous Navy Crosses, was that one of our security cameras, damaged initially in the blast, recorded some of the suicide attack. It happened exactly as the Iraqis had described it. It took exactly six seconds from when the truck entered the alley until it detonated.

You can watch the last six seconds of their young lives. Putting myself in their
heads I supposed it took about a second for the two Marines to separately come to the same conclusion about what was going on once the truck came into their view at the far end of the alley. Exactly no time to talk it over, or call the sergeant to ask what they should do. Only enough time to take half an instant and think about what the sergeant told them to do only a few minutes before: “… let no unauthorized personnel or vehicles pass.”

The two Marines had about five seconds left to live. It took maybe another two seconds for them to present their weapons, take aim, and open up. By this time the truck was half-way through the barriers and gaining speed the whole time. Here, the recording shows a number of Iraqi police, some of whom had fired their AKs, now scattering like the normal and rational men they were—some running right past the Marines. They had three seconds left to live.

For about two seconds more, the recording shows the Marines’ weapons firing
non-stop…the truck’s windshield exploding into shards of glass as their rounds take it apart and tore in to the body of the son-of-a-bitch who is trying to get past them to kill their brothers—American and Iraqi—bedded down in the barracks totally unaware of the fact that their lives at that moment depended entirely on two Marines standing their ground. If they had been aware, they would have know they were safe…because two Marines stood between them and a crazed suicide bomber.

The recording shows the truck careening to a stop immediately in front of the two Marines. In all of the instantaneous violence Yale and Haerter never hesitated. By all reports and by the recording, they never stepped back. They never even started to step aside. They never even shifted their weight. With their feet spread should width apart, they leaned into the danger, firing as fast as they could work their weapons. They had only one second left to live.

The truck explodes. The camera goes blank. Two young men go to their God.
Six seconds. Not enough time to think about their families, their country, their flag, or about their lives or their deaths, but more than enough time for two very brave young men to do their duty…into eternity. That is the kind of people who are on watch all over the world tonight—for you.



I am proud to call these Marines my brothers.
 

mamaof1

Member
Tears just run as I read this... I am proud a mama of a Marine. I know they fiercely protect their own.
Bless them all and keep them all safe.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
I read this to my husband. He is a former Marine. No discussion after, just silence, and tears in our eyes. We did not know this story. Thank you for posting this, kom; as all Americans need to be reminded of the sacrifices being made by brave patriots to keep us free. God bless those two brave boys, and here is hoping they did not die in vain. God bless America. :patriot:
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
I read this to my husband. He is a former Marine. No discussion after, just silence, and tears in our eyes. We did not know this story. Thank you for posting this, kom; as all Americans need to be reminded of the sacrifices being made by brave patriots to keep us free. God bless those two brave boys, and here is hoping they did not die in vain. God bless America. :patriot:

They did not die in vain. Other sons/husbands/brothers/fathers are alive because of their sacrifice.

Semper Fi.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
This shames me that we, the people, allow young men like this to be wasted in ####, half ass missions like Iraq and A'stan.

It shames me because we, the people, know damn well we have men like this, men who WILL do the job asked of them. Volunteered for it, they did.

It shames me because we, the people, the ones who control the politicians who send these men out to do what we ask of them have none of the courage and determination to make god damn sure that we do not dare ask them to do a job not worth doing that they have in following a simple but critical order. Don't let THIS happen.

Men like this don't ask about the mission. "Is it worth it?" "Does it serve the interests of my nation? Does it help my fellow citizen?" That's out of their hands and they don't care. They already made that choice to trust in their leadership, to leave those conversations in the hands of the citizens they represent. Once the fighting starts, they are doing it for more direct reasons; they are fighting for one another.

The shame is not that good men die. That is part of war.

The shame is in wasting their lives.


Shame on us. If two guys this different can come together when it matters, when their lives are immediately on the line, the rest of us ought to at least be brave enough to come together at the ballot box to not let politicians excuse their way out using lives like this on missions like this.

They're GOING to do their job.

What about us?
 

mamatutu

mama to two
They did not die in vain. Other sons/husbands/brothers/fathers are alive because of their sacrifice.

Semper Fi.

What Larry said (#5). 'In vain' was probably not the right word choice to express what I meant.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
They did not die in vain. Other sons/husbands/brothers/fathers are alive because of their sacrifice.

Semper Fi.

Oh, but it is in vain if we're just going to send the survivors right back out there for the same wrong reasons. And that is the point; they WILL go right back out there just as long as we keep sending them.

And we are sending them out there because we're not brave enough to put a stop to this. To stop wasting these guys.

We can honor them by bringing the survivors home and stop asking them to do crap missions for crap purposes.
 

Inkd

Active Member
This shames me that we, the people, allow young men like this to be wasted in ####, half ass missions like Iraq and A'stan.

It shames me because we, the people, know damn well we have men like this, men who WILL do the job asked of them. Volunteered for it, they did.

It shames me because we, the people, the ones who control the politicians who send these men out to do what we ask of them have none of the courage and determination to make god damn sure that we do not dare ask them to do a job not worth doing that they have in following a simple but critical order. Don't let THIS happen.

Men like this don't ask about the mission. "Is it worth it?" "Does it serve the interests of my nation? Does it help my fellow citizen?" That's out of their hands and they don't care. They already made that choice to trust in their leadership, to leave those conversations in the hands of the citizens they represent. Once the fighting starts, they are doing it for more direct reasons; they are fighting for one another.

The shame is not that good men die. That is part of war.

The shame is in wasting their lives.


Shame on us. If two guys this different can come together when it matters, when their lives are immediately on the line, the rest of us ought to at least be brave enough to come together at the ballot box to not let politicians excuse their way out using lives like this on missions like this.

They're GOING to do their job.

What about us?

Sorry but I do not like the word "waste" being used. Personally I think of a waste as nothing gained, thrown away because it was worthless.

I can't think of anyone who died in those circumstances as having wasted their lives. I prefer to think that because if their sacrifice, someone who would have died, was spared. Maybe that someone will go on and become a doctor and save countless lives, maybe they will become a better Marine, Sailor, Soldier or Airman, maybe those Iraqis now look at Americans differently and will be willing to fight harder to better their own country.

Maybe I am naive but it's something that I must believe, have to believe, in order maintain the few shreds of sanity I have left.

We go into those situations knowingly, it's what we agreed to do when we swore the oath. I'm not blinded enough to think that I am making a great impact in any Afghanis lives and really don't give a damn if I ever do.

I know I am making an impact in the soldiers lives every day though. That's why I am here. Seeing a convoy come back in the gate and knowing we were flying overwatch the night before and caught people planting IED's on the road they were supposed to travel and was able to kill the SOB's before they hurt any of my soldiers, that's the impact I want to make.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Sorry but I do not like the word "waste" being used. Personally I think of a waste as nothing gained, thrown away because it was worthless.

I can't think of anyone who died in those circumstances as having wasted their lives. I prefer to think that because if their sacrifice, someone who would have died, was spared. Maybe that someone will go on and become a doctor and save countless lives, maybe they will become a better Marine, Sailor, Soldier or Airman, maybe those Iraqis now look at Americans differently and will be willing to fight harder to better their own country.

Maybe I am naive but it's something that I must believe, have to believe, in order maintain the few shreds of sanity I have left.

We go into those situations knowingly, it's what we agreed to do when we swore the oath. I'm not blinded enough to think that I am making a great impact in any Afghanis lives and really don't give a damn if I ever do.

I know I am making an impact in the soldiers lives every day though. That's why I am here. Seeing a convoy come back in the gate and knowing we were flying overwatch the night before and caught people planting IED's on the road they were supposed to travel and was able to kill the SOB's before they hurt any of my soldiers, that's the impact I want to make.

:clap:

I stand and applaud that mind set. It is good and right and proper that that is how you look at it. It is one of the many honorable things about being a soldier; you set aside the politics of it, the 'why am I here? Is it worth it?" and just do the job.

And that is an enormous part of why it is just that much more critical that we, the people, take the greatest of care with what we send you to do because no matter how much we fail you, you won't fail to do your duty.

We, rightly, don't feel sympathy for someone who chooses to go work for X or Y or Z only to find it sucks, the pay is poor, the leadership is awful, the product or service is bad, etc. They can just quit. They can move on.

You can't. You committed to the job, to us, to do what is asked. Period.

Look at what outrages us in politics. Obamacare, the IRS, spending, gay marriage, this, that, the other thing. It's all crap, total garbage compared to two Marines who do their job right up to the point where they are obliterated doing it. They may have done it for one another, for their fellow Marines, for some foreign counter part who may or may not be sincerely fighting for freedom.

But, we sent them there. We are keeping them there. They chose that job.

It's up to us to honor them by insisting we only send them where it is worth that kind of courage and commitment and, I am sorry, we are LONG passed that in both Iraq and A'stan.

Missions are for the interests of the United States of America, to defend the country. Not the political interests of individuals or financial interests of corporations.

:buddies:
 

Inkd

Active Member
:clap:

I stand and applaud that mind set. It is good and right and proper that that is how you look at it. It is one of the many honorable things about being a soldier; you set aside the politics of it, the 'why am I here? Is it worth it?" and just do the job.

And that is an enormous part of why it is just that much more critical that we, the people, take the greatest of care with what we send you to do because no matter how much we fail you, you won't fail to do your duty.

We, rightly, don't feel sympathy for someone who chooses to go work for X or Y or Z only to find it sucks, the pay is poor, the leadership is awful, the product or service is bad, etc. They can just quit. They can move on.

You can't. You committed to the job, to us, to do what is asked. Period.

Look at what outrages us in politics. Obamacare, the IRS, spending, gay marriage, this, that, the other thing. It's all crap, total garbage compared to two Marines who do their job right up to the point where they are obliterated doing it. They may have done it for one another, for their fellow Marines, for some foreign counter part who may or may not be sincerely fighting for freedom.

But, we sent them there. We are keeping them there. They chose that job.

It's up to us to honor them by insisting we only send them where it is worth that kind of courage and commitment and, I am sorry, we are LONG passed that in both Iraq and A'stan.

Missions are for the interests of the United States of America, to defend the country. Not the political interests of individuals or financial interests of corporations.

:buddies:


I agree completely... :buddies:

Just to clarify things a bit so no one gets the wrong impression. I am retired Navy working here as a contractor supporting the Army, but the oath sworn is the same for each service.

I call them my soldiers because as a Chief, they were all my sailors and I took that responsibility seriously and still do, even though I work with and for soldiers.
 
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