The disgrace that is Joe Biden

vraiblonde

vraiblonde

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Has this ever happened before, an incumbent president being drummed out re-election mere months before election day?

100 years from now school children will be learning about this disgraced president and he'll be the #1 worst president in history.
 
Kyle

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vraiblonde said:
Has this ever happened before, an incumbent president being drummed out re-election mere months before election day?

100 years from now school children will be learning about this disgraced president and he'll be the #1 worst president in history.
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Jimmy Carter happy he moved up a notch.

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Hessian

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Who writes the textbooks Vrai?
The digital texts that have replaced hardcover books are easier to revise---thus the political climate will shade the analysis. Much of it will depend on what happens in Trump's term. I would expect the apologists to write about the "Post-Covid" impacts,...the thorny issue of Ukraine...and an ideological stand-off that made it difficult for Joe to "Build Back Better."

No images of the Jan 6 committee, ....of the miles of fencing at his inauguration,...the confused statements...the gaffs... the collapse of our border...nor the burgeoning debt.--all of that will be cleansed.
What we will get is comments on how age worked against him, his cabinet was lack luster, and Republicans incrementally notched a minor win in 2022 thus preventing his agenda while the court was tipped against him. He will be considered the Truman of the 2020's.
 
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Hessian

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Vrai...your 1st question ought to be addressed:
John Tyler....a man without a party ran in 1844 with no support from the Whigs that elected his predecessor, nor his former Democrat colleagues. He thus remained in the race and created his own party which didn't dent the election of Dem Polk. (He is a very curious figure in US history though!...When Harrison died, he made it very clear the succession fell on him,...leaving NO wiggle room for a 'place-holder' while a new election would be scheduled (Clay wanted plan B)...if he waffled on the issue,...our history would have been distinctly different!

Another Presidential election crisis was in 1912...Taft was not popular, and TR expected to be restored to the Republican nomination. However, the 'Old Guard' was not fond of TR and a split occurred in the party. Taft did take the nomination...and TR went on to champion the new Progressive party (thus coming in 2nd place)...that split gave us President Wilson...and the country shifted direction one more time.

Neither instance is a clear match to the comment you made but...there are some overlaps....
 
SamSpade

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FROM MEMORY - the very latest I know of that a President chose not to run, is Johnson, in '68. Most of the other one-termers either declared ahead of time they weren't running - OR - (ironically, LIKE Biden did) - run on the promise it would be just one term.

Six Presidents made it clear they didn't want to run again - Polk, Buchanan, Hayes, Coolidge, Truman and Johnson were eligible but chose not to. Polk campaigned on being a one-term. Buchanan was a TERRIBLE President, and would almost certainly not have even got the nomination. Hayes said he would only serve one term. Hoover was simply disastrous and could see the writing on the wall. Coolidge SAID "I do not choose to run" but insiders said he hoped they would draft him anyway.

Coolidge made his statement not to run in August 2, 1927 - the year BEFORE the election.
Truman announced, late in March of 1952 - his approval rating was around 22 percent.
Hayes, Polk and Buchanan were never in contention - they never even bothered.
Johnson saw the writing on the wall - unpopular war, unpopular President - and a rising star named Bobby Kennedy. He left in March of '68.

No, to my knowledge, what is going on with Biden is utterly unprecedented, and it is ENTIRELY based on bad polling that happened after his dreadful debate - where the cat was finally out of the bag - he's an old, doddering, senile man. HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED - they would still be on board with him. This is not about "democracy". They are already concocting excuses about how the primaries aren't voted on by many voters and they really didn't have any choices anyway. No, this is naked grab for power.
 
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StmarysCity79

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vraiblonde said:
Has this ever happened before, an incumbent president being drummed out re-election mere months before election day?

100 years from now school children will be learning about this disgraced president and he'll be the #1 worst president in history.
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You forgot the twice impeached one who lost the House and Senate under his control and failed to get reelected.

Who then proceeded to insist he won and steal classified docs on his way out the door.
 
Kyle

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StmarysCity79 said:
You forgot the twice impeached by a bunch of bullshit artists, lost the House and Senate and failed to get reelected because we Dems are GREAT :yahoo: at cheating the election system, then took things he's completely entitled too and we created another bull$hit narritive to try to slander him.

Damn. We really are a bunch of sub-human $hitbags that need to be disposed of.
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Finally a post I can concur.
 
Kinnakeet

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StmarysCity79 said:
You forgot the twice impeached one who lost the House and Senate under his control and failed to get reelected.

Who then proceeded to insist he won and steal classified docs on his way out the door.
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Steal Is he not allowed to have those documents? that have never been mentioned what they were! that I know of, atleast they where kept in a safe..unlike FJB had documents that he was NOT supposed to have and left them in a box in his open garage plus used them to write a book! so why the hell is he not in jail for theft of top secret documents ...oh thats right he is a old bumbling fool so that makes it ok plus being a demoshit helps also.
 
Hijinx

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IMO Obama was the worst President. No one ever divided our country like Obama did. And I feel he was involved in Joe Biden's administration.
Anyone know another President who bought a mansion in Washington DC after leaving office? Most cannot get out of town fast enough.
He had a nice place in Chicago from money he made as a professional organizer, make that race baiter , when he left he has 4 mansions. Who other than Obama and Jarrett would advise Biden to send money to Iran? Is Joe really responsible for anything? He is lead around by his puppeteers and his Dr wife, and criminal family.
 
SamSpade

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Kinnakeet said:
Steal Is he not allowed to have those documents? that have never been mentioned what they were! that I know of, atleast they where kept in a safe..unlike FJB had documents that he was NOT supposed to have and left them in a box in his open garage plus used them to write a book! so why the hell is he not in jail for theft of top secret documents ...oh thats right he is a old bumbling fool so that makes it ok plus being a demoshit helps also.
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Biden supporters try to make the argument - "oh but he gave them BACK!".
It's still stealing to take something that isn't yours and you are not entitled to - if someone breaks into your house, steals stuff and gives it back years later - it's still stealing. Giving it back just means - he got caught. It's not a credit to him that he returned something he was never allowed to take. If you had those items of mine in your house and you let the cops take them back - why didn't you return it before hand? BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T GOING TO!. He had no intention of returning any of that, until he had no choice.

Trump, on the other hand believed - and I think, correctly - that he was entitled to those documents. If not, you can dispute the ownership in court but the reason he wouldn't give them up, is for the same reason you and I won't let the government come into OUR houses and take our stuff. It's ours, and they have no right.

Biden's taking of those files is more egregrious - he NEVER, EVER had the right to them, either as VP and certainly not as a Senator. Period. Giving them back after he was caught is like a bank robber giving the money back once caught.
 
Hessian

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Anyone know another President who bought a mansion in Washington DC after leaving office?

Wilson..
 
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StmarysCity79

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Kinnakeet said:
Steal Is he not allowed to have those documents? that have never been mentioned what they were! that I know of, atleast they where kept in a safe..unlike FJB had documents that he was NOT supposed to have and left them in a box in his open garage plus used them to write a book! so why the hell is he not in jail for theft of top secret documents ...oh thats right he is a old bumbling fool so that makes it ok plus being a demoshit helps also.
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They were not kept in a safe. They were in a bathroom, ballroom and public closet.

They were classified Docs and Trump was not allowed to have them after he left the white house.

VP's can also have access to classified docs.

Where do you get all of this incorrect information and why do you repeat it so causally as though any of it is actually true?
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Biden had his own laywer's search his property in case he had anything he shouldn't.

Unlike Trump who refused to return the documents for 6 months while the FBI begged for them.
 
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