PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
I agree, but MD shuts theirs on I-70 and I-68 after Christmas until April 1st.
The dumbest government (fed, state, or city)responses to COVID
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PeoplesElbow
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You are paying way too much.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
I am with Verizon.
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
So am I, smartphone data plan 6GB, bill is $48 a month.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
St. Mary's hospital has 4 tents on the grounds.
Now tent is not a good word for these building ---which is basically what they are.
Equipped with Air Conditioning and heating, And no one has been put into one since they placed them there.
I could probably live like a King on what they are costing the County
I have no idea who made the estimate of how many would be required, but they have never required even one of them.
I have no idea who was supposed to staff these buildings or how long they will be there.
Now tent is not a good word for these building ---which is basically what they are.
Equipped with Air Conditioning and heating, And no one has been put into one since they placed them there.
I could probably live like a King on what they are costing the County
I have no idea who made the estimate of how many would be required, but they have never required even one of them.
I have no idea who was supposed to staff these buildings or how long they will be there.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
I think I may have a talk with them, a looong talk.
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
Talk and text only for 30 a month https://www.verizon.com/prepaid/?cm...fOf-53S1niAkEsaAquHEALw_wcB#prepaidPhonePlans
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
Ok, how about THIS - (I am doing something I rarely do, but I couldn't find fault with this - I am re-posting something from Facebook - if I am wrong I would be glad to admit it):
-------------------------------------------------
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid
). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.
So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.
Copied and pasted. If a business wants me to wear a mask, that business doesn’t want my business. If governments mandate I wear one then I guess I’ll be an outlaw. It’s about control. How about y’all control the looters, real criminals, and overreaching politicians!!
____
Now I freely admit - I do not wear a mask because I think it will protect me. I have no such delusion. I also don't think it will protect others. And I see everywhere I go people wearing their masks below their noses.
I do it so I can shop and go into stores and places that ask for them. I assume I am completely exposed to COVID with or without them.
-------------------------------------------------
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid
). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.
Copied and pasted. If a business wants me to wear a mask, that business doesn’t want my business. If governments mandate I wear one then I guess I’ll be an outlaw. It’s about control. How about y’all control the looters, real criminals, and overreaching politicians!!
____
Now I freely admit - I do not wear a mask because I think it will protect me. I have no such delusion. I also don't think it will protect others. And I see everywhere I go people wearing their masks below their noses.
I do it so I can shop and go into stores and places that ask for them. I assume I am completely exposed to COVID with or without them.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I happen to think every business is essential. If I am a single mom working at a gift shop, that is what puts dinner on my table for my kids. You can't get more essential than that. I loathe a government that picks winners a losers. When government plays this role, we all lose. While they claim they have done this to protect us, they have put every American at risk financially and mentally. And that stress puts the health of people at risk. It's one thing for people to exercise their freedom and accept risks that come with that. It borders on evil to have a government put the people at risk under the guise of "protecting" us.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Ok, how about THIS - (I am doing something I rarely do, but I couldn't find fault with this - I am re-posting something from Facebook - if I am wrong I would be glad to admit it):
-------------------------------------------------
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid
So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.
Copied and pasted. If a business wants me to wear a mask, that business doesn’t want my business. If governments mandate I wear one then I guess I’ll be an outlaw. It’s about control. How about y’all control the looters, real criminals, and overreaching politicians!!
____
Now I freely admit - I do not wear a mask because I think it will protect me. I have no such delusion. I also don't think it will protect others. And I see everywhere I go people wearing their masks below their noses.
I do it so I can shop and go into stores and places that ask for them. I assume I am completely exposed to COVID with or without them.
As usual... excellent post Sam. Here is the only type of mask that may work:
.... Counting the seconds until Sappy comes in with his i-Doctorate and set you all straight!
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
.... Counting the seconds until Sappy comes in with his i-Doctorate and set you all straight!
He's on iggy. So he'll be just flapping his gums.
I learned/noticed something this weekend. I was bored and was re-watching The Avengers for like the millionth time, and there's the scene where they are ALL arguing - Fury, Stark, Thor, Banner etc. and if you have closed caption on - as I do all the time nowadays - you can read their accusations and their arguments.
And I noticed something for the first time - ALL OF THEM had merit. Yup. They're all rude, insulting and so on, but none of them were baseless insults. Of course they served no purpose, save one - I'll get to that. But it occurred to me in a world filled with imperfect people and error - you can ALWAYS FIND FAULT with something. ALWAYS. A lot of the time, it's going to be stupid - inconsequential - clearly a distraction (as most of my kid's protestations are) - but every once in a while, yeah, it's true, it sticks and it has merit.
So what DID it accomplish? If you watch the movie - you know. LOKI wants them to fight. They're the only thing that can stop him, and he has ALLOWED himself to be captured so he can sow division among them. In the background, while the superheroes are fighting - you can see the sceptre of Loki glowing - because it's CAUSING the division among them - and a fade to Loki smiling, because it's working. And it DOES work - that's kind of one of the major themes of the whole movie - CAN they work together? They recover, and save the day.
So I do realize - when I argue online - and hopefully, LESS in person - I have to remind myself that EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY has merit - does it need to be said at all? Most of the time, I catch myself. It's why I rarely engage in protracted arguments. It's pointless.
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
Not sure I would base health decisions on someone who had two construction worker safety courses.
Sam! Why do want people to die?!!Ok, how about THIS - (I am doing something I rarely do, but I couldn't find fault with this - I am re-posting something from Facebook - if I am wrong I would be glad to admit it):
-------------------------------------------------
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid
So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.
Copied and pasted. If a business wants me to wear a mask, that business doesn’t want my business. If governments mandate I wear one then I guess I’ll be an outlaw. It’s about control. How about y’all control the looters, real criminals, and overreaching politicians!!
____
Now I freely admit - I do not wear a mask because I think it will protect me. I have no such delusion. I also don't think it will protect others. And I see everywhere I go people wearing their masks below their noses.
I do it so I can shop and go into stores and places that ask for them. I assume I am completely exposed to COVID with or without them.
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
Ok, as unsurprising as how first rate stupid this is (unsurprising because she never fails to demonstrate idiocy) - although maybe a panty hose mask might be dumber - it's kind of amazing that even with clearly false eyelashes (you can see the one on the left falling off) - she is totally recognizable with just eyes, eyelashes and forehead.
PeoplesElbow
Well-Known Member
Who is it?
kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
Alyssa Milano
Melissa somebody